A tip to get better results in the gym that you likely didn't know about (gymcels GTFIH)

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When you try to learn a new movement or exercise, to decide whether you are performing it correctly or whether you should add it to your routine you likely rely on your feeling sense.

What I mean is that if a movement feels wrong or uncomfortable you probably think that your execution is wrong or that the exercise itself is not good. When performing an exercise you probably rely on sensory cues to make sure you are doing it right.

Your feeling sense though is not something you can rely on. Most of the time even though you feel like your doing a certain movement you are actually doing the exact opposite.

To make sure you are performing an exercise correctly you must record yourself. That way you have an objective feedback and you don't have to rely on your deceiving sensations. Having someone observe you works too.

In any other sport that's what happens: you have coaches that watch you and provide an objective evaluation of what you are doing. But most gym goers think they can rely entirely on their sensations and still do well.

If you are trying out a new movement it should feel uncomfortable. Your asking your body to do something it has never done. It shouldn't hurt, that's for sure, but it should feel wrong/weird.

You should watch some tutorials before performing an exercise and then record yourself to see if you are doing it right. Even if you try this with an exercise you have been doing for a while you'll see that when you watch the recording it probably doesn't look like what you would expect, even if everything felt right when you were performing it.

You should record yourself from the side, that way it's easier to see what you might be doing wrong. Every exercise is different but when performing any movement you should make sure you are following these 2 criterias :

  • Your back from your butt up to the line of your armpits should be reasonably flat, not too rounded or arched. Your torso should be tall and extended.

  • Your head shouldn't to be retracted or crushed onto your ribcage.

You'll see when you record yourself that you probably failed both of these. That's fine and to be expected. Lower the weight and try again. You won't get it right away but overtime I guarantee you that it will improve your results.
Also make sure you record yourself at every workout, not just the first few. Even if you get the movement right, if you stop having an objective feedback you will go back to relying on your feelings and lose the progress overtime.
 
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DISCLAIMER: I wrote this without any AI, not even for formatting, so it's worth reading even though it's pretty long.

This is also a repost, the thread I posted earlier didn't get many replies, so I decided to change a few things and make it better in the form. Hopefully this gets a bit more recognition, I think it's a pretty simple thing that will give you nice results but most people don't do it since they aren't aware of the benefits.
 
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Bump. Do read above
 
When you try to learn a new movement or exercise, to decide whether you are performing it correctly or whether you should add it to your routine you likely rely on your feeling sense.

What I mean is that if a movement feels wrong or uncomfortable you probably think that your execution is wrong or that the exercise itself is not good. When performing an exercise you probably rely on sensory cues to make sure you are doing it right.

Your feeling sense though is not something you can rely on. Most of the time even though you feel like your doing a certain movement you are actually doing the exact opposite.

To make sure you are performing an exercise correctly you must record yourself. That way you have an objective feedback and you don't have to rely on your deceiving sensations. Having someone observe you works too.

In any other sport that's what happens: you have coaches that watch you and provide an objective evaluation of what you are doing. But most gym goers think they can rely entirely on their sensations and still do well.

If you are trying out a new movement it should feel uncomfortable. Your asking your body to do something it has never done. It shouldn't hurt, that's for sure, but it should feel wrong/weird.

You should watch some tutorials before performing an exercise and then record yourself to see if you are doing it right. Even if you try this with an exercise you have been doing for a while you'll see that when you watch the recording it probably doesn't look like what you would expect, even if everything felt right when you were performing it.

You should record yourself from the side, that way it's easier to see what you might be doing wrong. Every exercise is different but when performing any movement you should make sure you are following these 2 criterias :

  • Your back from your butt up to the line of your armpits should be reasonably flat, not too rounded or arched. Your torso should be tall and extended.

  • Your head shouldn't to be retracted or crushed onto your ribcage.

You'll see when you record yourself that you probably failed both of these. That's fine and to be expected. Lower the weight and try again. You won't get it right away but overtime I guarantee you that it will improve your results.
Also make sure you record yourself at every workout, not just the first few. Even if you get the movement right, if you stop having an objective feedback you will go back to relying on your feelings and lose the progress overtime.
it is good advice if you struggle with standardizing form but that's honestly just a skill issue. if you're not retarded you wouldn't need this
 
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it is good advice if you struggle with standardizing form but that's honestly just a skill issue. if you're not retarded you wouldn't need this
Not true, try this yourself and you'll see your form is worse than you think and you won't meet the 2 criteria. I guarantee you that
 
Not true, try this yourself and you'll see your form is worse than you think and you won't meet the 2 criteria
you don't know me, you don't know how long I've worked out and yet you make this empty assumption
 
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you don't know me, you don't know how long I've worked out and yet you make this empty assumption
It doesn't matter how much you have worked out for. Like I said unless you record yourself or have external feedback you will rely on your deceiving feeling sense. It's not judgemental towards you or anybody else, this is something that everyone suffers from. Every athlete at top level as a coach for this exact reason. You must have an objective feedback.

I'm 100% sure you would realize that too if you just recorded yourself one time. You'll see you likely didn't meet either of the criteria I mentioned and your form wasn't as good as you thought
 
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It doesn't matter how much you have worked out for. Like I said unless you record yourself or have external feedback you will rely on your deceiving feeling sense. It's not judgemental towards you or anybody else, this is something that everyone suffers from. Every athlete at top level as a coach for this exact reason. You must have an objective feedback.

I'm 100% sure you would realize that too if you just recorded yourself one time. You'll see you likely didn't meet either of the criteria I mentioned and your form wasn't as good as you think.
straight cope, my form IS textbook
 
How can you tell if you don't have an external view or feedback ?
i sometimes workout with a friend, ofc I've asked how is my form lol

not to mention gyms have mirrors everywhere, so I still can see myself on some exercises so I know I'm good
 
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i sometimes workout with a friend, ofc I've asked how is my form lol
That's good but you should have it everytime. Otherwise you will faulter, especially when upping the weights
not to mention gyms have mirrors everywhere, so I still can see myself on some exercises so I know I'm good
You need to see yourself from the side though. I don't think you can do that without twisting your head, can you ?
 
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That's good but you should have it everytime. Otherwise you will faulter, especially when upping the weights

You need to see yourself from the side though. I don't think you can do that without twisting your head, can you ?
dont need to see myself from the side to know that I'm not cheating on the given exercise
 
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dont need to see myself from the side to know that I'm not cheating on the given exercise
Yes you do, how else would you be able to tell if your back is not arched or rounded ? That your neck is not retracting or your pelvis moving forward ?
I don't know why you are so stubborn on this, I'm not judging you in any way, this is something I do everytime. I thought my form was good too but once you actually see yourself you'll realize it's really not. Just give it a try and you'll see. If it's perfect then keep doing what you were doing. But I guarantee you it won't be.
 
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Yes you do, how else would you be able to tell if your back is not arched or rounded ? That your neck is not retracting or your pelvis moving forward ?
I don't know why you are so stubborn on this, I'm not judging you in any way, this is something I do everytime. I thought my form was good too but once you actually see yourself you'll realize it's really not. Just give it a try and you'll see. If it's perfect then keep doing what you were doing. But I guarantee you it won't be.
but thats such flawed criterias lmfao, whatever
 
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but thats such flawed criterias lmfao, whatever
Not really. If arching or rounding your back is required for good form on a certain exercise, that's a bad exercise. Those 2 criteria must be met on every exercise
 
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Not really. If arching or rounding your back is required for good form on a certain exercise, that's a bad exercise. Those 2 criteria must be met on every exercise
abs
 
What about them ? There is plenty of ab exercises that don't require you to bend or round your back. Hanging leg raises to mention one
oh okay wrap it up you're clueless dawg im sorry :feelskek::feelskek:

spinal flexion is required for abs so honestly ur validity goes out the window now gg
 
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oh okay wrap it up you're clueless dawg im sorry :feelskek::feelskek:

spinal flexion is required for abs so honestly ur validity goes out the window now gg
Flexion doesn't require arching or rounding. Not sure what you are talking about here. Sure if you arch or round your back your spine will flex, but you can definitely do the same while also keeping a relatively flat back while doing it.

If you think about keeping your back extended and lengthened you can work your abs just fine, without rounding or arching your back.
 
niggas in prison workout with horrendous form, but tbh u should feel the muscles contractions with ur hand
 
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niggas in prison workout with horrendous form, but tbh u should feel the muscles contractions with ur hand
Niggas in prison have horrendous pelvic tilts too. Im not saying you won't be able to get strong or build muscles without this, but your body will try to make the exercise easier by arching or rounding your back if you don't stop it. Thinking "I shouldn't round my back/retract my neck" alone isn't enough like I said, because your feeling sense will deceive you and make you think you are doing it right when you are doing the exact opposite. You must have an objective feedback
 
Niggas in prison have horrendous pelvic tilts too. Im not saying you won't be able to get strong or build muscles without this, but your body will try to make the exercise easier by arching or rounding your back if you don't stop it. Thinking "I shouldn't round my back/retract my neck" alone isn't enough like I said, because your feeling sense will deceive you and make you think you are doing it right when you are doing the exact opposite. You must have an objective feedback
i most use bands and cables, weights are only for legs but i don't train legs lmao
 
Flexion doesn't require arching or rounding. Not sure what you are talking about here. Sure if you arch or round your back your spine will flex, but you can definitely do the same while also keeping a relatively flat back while doing it.

If you think about keeping your back extended and lengthened you can work your abs just fine, without rounding or arching your back.
whats the function of the abs? 2 words. hint: i already mentioned it
 
whats the function of the abs? 2 words. hint: i already mentioned it
I'm telling you that you don't have to round or arch your back to flex your abs. Your back will bend but you can still keep it elongated and make sure it doesn't eccessively round or arch.

Think of a rubber band. You can bend it 2 ways. You keep it slack and pull the top end towards the lower end or viceversa. That will cause the band to round or arch. But you can also pull the opposite ends apart, making the elastic band taut, and then pull in the middle. That would cause the rubber band to bend but without arching it or rounding it.
 

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