AAS WILL NOT GIVE YOU FACIAL BONES

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We've all seen the before and after results of AAS on teens who obviously gained a ton of facial "bone mass"
THAT DOES NOT MEAN AAS = CRANIOFACIAL MASCULINITY

Trust me I wish it was that simple too but its really not​

Just because your favorite tiktoker posted his transformation where he gained crazy bigonial and bizygomatic width doesn't mean you can directly attribute it to AAS!

AAS ≠ Chad bones instantly
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Androgen signaling is 100% necessary for normal masculinization but just because you supraphysiological increase androgen levels doesnt mean you produce proportionally more craniofacial growth​

500mg of test ≠ 5mm+ of bigonial width
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unless you somehow manage to pull together a study with standardized pre/post CT scans of literal CHILDREN on AAS it has no backing
YOU HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN NATURALLY

Testosterone isn't the only thing that effects craniofacial growth, IGF-1/GH levels, AR sensitivity, skeletal maturation, and finally..​

GENETICS
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There is a lot more to back up my point but you understand
This isn't even an anti-roid thread, it can be done if you know what your doing
(this automatically eliminates 2/3 of this website)

Sorry to burst your bubble but running AAS won't let you escape from the esteemed SUNIL richardson​

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[Ascending_teen]

DNR

 

[Shirobon]

We've all seen the before and after results of AAS on teens who obviously gained a ton of facial "bone mass"
THAT DOES NOT MEAN AAS = CRANIOFACIAL MASCULINITY

Trust me I wish it was that simple too but its really not

Just because your favorite tiktoker posted his transformation where he gained crazy bigonial and bizygomatic width doesn't mean you can directly attribute it to AAS!

AAS ≠ Chad bones instantly


Androgen signaling is 100% necessary for normal masculinization but just because you supraphysiological increase androgen levels doesnt mean you produce proportionally more craniofacial growth

500mg of test ≠ 5mm+ of bigonial width



unless you somehow manage to pull together a study with standardized pre/post CT scans of literal CHILDREN on AAS it has no backing

YOU HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN NATURALLY



Testosterone isn't the only thing that effects craniofacial growth, IGF-1/GH levels, AR sensitivity, skeletal maturation, and finally..

GENETICS



There is a lot more to back up my point but you understand

This isn't even an anti-roid thread, it can be done if you know what your doing

(this automatically eliminates 2/3 of this website)



Sorry to burst your bubble but running AAS won't let you escape from the esteemed SUNIL richardson



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le trust me bro....

 

[copeuntilumakeit]

We've all seen the before and after results of AAS on teens who obviously gained a ton of facial "bone mass"
THAT DOES NOT MEAN AAS = CRANIOFACIAL MASCULINITY

Trust me I wish it was that simple too but its really not

Just because your favorite tiktoker posted his transformation where he gained crazy bigonial and bizygomatic width doesn't mean you can directly attribute it to AAS!

AAS ≠ Chad bones instantly


Androgen signaling is 100% necessary for normal masculinization but just because you supraphysiological increase androgen levels doesnt mean you produce proportionally more craniofacial growth

500mg of test ≠ 5mm+ of bigonial width



unless you somehow manage to pull together a study with standardized pre/post CT scans of literal CHILDREN on AAS it has no backing

YOU HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN NATURALLY



Testosterone isn't the only thing that effects craniofacial growth, IGF-1/GH levels, AR sensitivity, skeletal maturation, and finally..

GENETICS



There is a lot more to back up my point but you understand

This isn't even an anti-roid thread, it can be done if you know what your doing

(this automatically eliminates 2/3 of this website)



Sorry to burst your bubble but running AAS won't let you escape from the esteemed SUNIL richardson



View attachment 5495086



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@Shirobon @copeuntilumakeit​

Closer to maturity equals harder to grow
mandibular symphysis fuses age 1
Honestly burden of proof should be on those claiming growth, show me a meta analysis with MEANINGFUL growth in non hormonal deficient teens
its all theoretical

 

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@Shirobon @copeuntilumakeit​

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Closer to maturity equals harder to grow
mandibular symphysis fuses age 1
Honestly burden of proof should be on those claiming growth, show me a meta analysis with MEANINGFUL growth in non hormonal deficient teens
its all theoretical

I would give you studies but the world (for some reason) deems it unethical to give androgens to developing teenagers simply to do cephalometric measurements.. if you put forth a claim back it up without anglefrauding before and afters no?

 

[Bipolar2Cel]

Many "transformations" may very well just have been natural facial development in teens and 20s that would have happened anyway lol..