Absolutely Nuclear Blackpill about company ladders, and Indians

[Pakicel]

Wdym poor technical skills?

They are very good at doing those boring monotonous tasks that require repetition and mindfuck.

Most can’t code for shit. Worst code I have seen was written by Indian contractors.

 

[Seth Walsh]

Tbh they can do grunt work.

But at least where I work, most have poor technical skills as well

If they have poor technical skills they shouldn't be getting hired. Plus, grunt work will just be fully automated by highIQ cels.

Everything can be automated. Full surveillance of your company's shared network location (i.e., waiting for files to be dropping into folders in specific folders on the S:\ drive), which can trigger a pipeline of automated python scripts which do the grunt work. Writing programmatically to Excel sheets using openpyxl and using day-on-day file size margin of errors and verifying data is correct by becoming so familiar with integral files. Verifying their data integrity programmatically, and kicking off your work pipeline.

All grunt can be automated. Then you can turn off your scripts when you go on annual leave and make your department (and department head) feel the extra work and effort needed to do ALL the work you were doing seamlessly.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

What if you get citizenship

 

[LooksOrDeath]

This thread seems to concern skilled migrants in general, not just indians.

 

[Foreverbrad]

How many years in the job are you on?

Just entering my fifth year.

Your rage is justified, but misdirected. The oligarchy wants you blaming Chadpreet instead of the CFO who underpays you both. Indians aren’t your competition—they’re your coalition in a class war.

Example:

• Your STEM master’s is devalued to protect legacy hires’ mediocre sons.
• Indians are devalued to justify outsourcing their roles to Hyderabad.

Your Choice:

• Stay Divided: Lash at shadows while the elite laugh.
• Awaken: Recognize that your £40k hell and their visa traps are two symptoms of the same disease.

The system isn’t rigged against you or them—it’s rigged for bloodline aristocrats. Your pain is the point.


@forevergymcelling @6ft4


Impromptu social class pill

They are the competition because none of us are in a position to take down the system and we never will be. It’s dog-eat-dog. I don’t blame chadpreet for my situation but neither am I going to try and help his situation.

The myth could be that hard work gets rewarded. There are a lot of myths.

 

[Pakicel]

What if you get citizenship

Doesn’t change shit.

Indians will always be lower in the social hierarchy due to their looks and overall mannerisms.

They clearly prioritised ensuring every subhuman breeding rather than the genetic quality of their population and they are paying the price for it.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Doesn’t change shit.

Indians will always be lower in the social hierarchy due to their looks and overall mannerisms.

They clearly prioritised ensuring every subhuman breeding rather than the genetic quality of their population and they are paying the price for it.

average indian makes more than average caucasian in the UK and US

 

[Seth Walsh]

Just entering my fifth year.



They are the competition because none of us are in a position to take down the system and we never will be. It’s dog-eat-dog. I don’t blame chadpreet for my situation but neither am I going to try and help his situation.

The myth could be that hard work gets rewarded. There are a lot of myths.

Meritocracy is the myth. So yep, you're pretty much spot on.

Meritocracy is performative. If you've overstayed your time at a company and want a pay rise, it's easier to make a lateral move to another company and get paid +50%.

Internal promotion budgets are less than those for external hires. Loyalty is a trap to keep you complacent and underpaid. HR and the C-suite love when juniors feel like "it's dog eat dog", when it really isn't.

Management just already have your ceiling pre-planned, and they won't tell you, or let on that that's exactly what they're doing.

 

[Seth Walsh]

average indian makes more than average caucasian in the UK and US

Because pretty much all imported in Indians are white collar.

There's some 7/11 kiosk, petrol station Indian guys who can be considered blue collar. But they get paid well because they're in control, put in the hours, and their lives depend on it.

So yeah, it works out that the average Indian in the UK/US does make more.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Because pretty much all imported in Indians are white collar.

There's some 7/11 kiosk, petrol station Indian guys who can be considered blue collar. But they get paid well because they're in control, put in the hours, and their lives depend on it.

So yeah, it works out that the average Indian in the UK/US does make more.

Yet the white collar indians get paid more than the working class ones

 

[Seth Walsh]

Yet the white collar indians get paid more than the working class ones

Of course.

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Of course.

My bad i thought you were insinuating the blue collar ones get paid more

Because pretty much all imported in Indians are white collar.

i reread

 

[LooksOrDeath]

Junior Grind	£25k–35k	- Visa dependency (Skilled Worker Visa). - “Prove your worth” probation traps.	- Fear of deportation. - Cultural guilt: “Don’t shame your family.”
Mid-Level Stagnation	£35k–45k	- Promises of sponsorship extensions. - DEI tokenism (no leadership pathways).	- Gaslighting: “You’re lucky to be here.” - Sunk cost fallacy: “I’ve already sacrificed so much.”
Senior Loyalty Trap	£45k–55k	- Artificial “specialist” ceilings. - Threat of replacement by cheaper hires.	- Isolation: No social capital in pubs/cliques. - Fear of being “ungrateful” after “investment.”
Managerial Illusion	£55k–65k	- Glass ceiling: Managed teams but no budget/promo authority. - DEI theater.	- Toxic hope: “One day they’ll see my value.” - Parental pressure: “You’re the family’s pride now.”
Terminal Senior	£65k–75k

These salaries seem more or less the same as they are for caucasians and other races
I don't see a 20-30% difference in wages here
bar I guess the C suite having more native british people

 

[Seth Walsh]

These salaries seem more or less the same as they are for caucasians and other races
I don't see a 20-30% difference in wages here
bar I guess the C suite having more native british people

That's the whole point. To allay the division between unconnected whites and Indiancels. No network, no fast-track to the top. That table is the brutal roadmap.

 

[Pakicel]

Meritocracy is the myth. So yep, you're pretty much spot on.

Meritocracy is performative. If you've overstayed your time at a company and want a pay rise, it's easier to make a lateral move to another company and get paid +50%.

Internal promotion budgets are less than those for external hires. Loyalty is a trap to keep you complacent and underpaid. HR and the C-suite love when juniors feel like "it's dog eat dog", when it really isn't.

Management just already have your ceiling pre-planned, and they won't tell you, or let on that that's exactly what they're doing.

True.

Except you can’t really job hop in this market. So gone are the days where you can just get a 50% raise by switching.

 

[Seth Walsh]

True.

Except you can’t really job hop in this market. So gone are the days where you can just get a 50% raise by switching.

True, it's very tough.

 

[Pakicel]

True, it's very tough.

Honestly, povertyceldom will be the eventual fate for most.

 

[Aypo129]

Literally not a single of this essay is true

Indians earn more than top10% in the US

Indians change their H1B so frequently that it accounts for majority of H1B enrollment in recent years

Similar numbers in all of europe

Which of you communist shitskin upvoted and made this sticky thread
@TechnoBoss @Gengar @Clavicular

@Seth Walsh just make a poo in the loo joke instead of moralfagging

 

[Aypo129]

Man people will repeat commiefag lies instead of being racist these days
@Gaygymmaxx look at this shit

 

[Seth Walsh]

Literally not a single of this essay is true

Indians earn more than top10% in the US
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Similar numbers in all of europe

Which of you communist shitskin upvoted and made this sticky thread
@TechnoBoss @Gengar @Clavicular

@Seth Walsh just make a poo in the loo joke instead of moralfagging

You're missing the point. The aggregate data about their salary there is true, and looks good.

It does not invalidate that H1Bs have no bargaining power, and are set to work for that $100k like their lives depend on it. I'm not some Marxist cuck; even though my post makes me sound like one. I'm not Indian either.

I'm just trying to rationalize the nuance (and the blackpill) behind the "high earning Indian software dev" narrative.


I think the real question is: "Would you swap your life for theirs". $100k a year and you get to become an single Indian with no gf working 15hr days for Microsoft, rent costing 1/3rd your salary with no bargaining power and no leverage (and you literally become Indian too).

I see the inhumanity there. I mean, it's blatant. It's a blackpill for sure. I think it's undeniable.

 

[Aypo129]

You're missing the point. The aggregate data about their salary there is true, and looks good.

It does not invalidate that H1Bs have no bargaining power, and are set to work for that $100k like their lives depend on it. I'm not some Marxist cuck; even though my post makes me sound like one. I'm not Indian either.

I'm just trying to rationalize the nuance (and the blackpill) behind the "high earning Indian software dev" narrative.


I think the real question is: "Would you swap your life for theirs". $100k a year and you get to become an single Indian with no gf working 15hr days for Microsoft, rent costing 1/3rd your salary with no bargaining power and no leverage (and you literally become Indian too).

I see the inhumanity there. I mean, it's blatant. It's a blackpill for sure. I think it's undeniable.

I would see your point but after so many @Greypiller threads I thought you was trolling

 

[snowbunnypolice]

FOB Indians are the worst this Brahmin fuck when I was out yesterday with my boys wouldn’t get out the fucking way or make eye contact cause he was talking to a 3/10 pajeeta even though he was blocking the doorway because he was raised to think hes jesus walking on earth reborn or something

Ended up shoulder checking his ass to get in and he looked at me like I committed the gravest sin known to man kind.

 

[snowbunnypolice]

You're missing the point. The aggregate data about their salary there is true, and looks good.

It does not invalidate that H1Bs have no bargaining power, and are set to work for that $100k like their lives depend on it. I'm not some Marxist cuck; even though my post makes me sound like one. I'm not Indian either.

I'm just trying to rationalize the nuance (and the blackpill) behind the "high earning Indian software dev" narrative.


I think the real question is: "Would you swap your life for theirs". $100k a year and you get to become an single Indian with no gf working 15hr days for Microsoft, rent costing 1/3rd your salary with no bargaining power and no leverage (and you literally become Indian too).

I see the inhumanity there. I mean, it's blatant. It's a blackpill for sure. I think it's undeniable.

I am connected to people who work in taxes who have told me these people regularly live in one bedrooms with 5-6 people like sardines cause of their pay.

 

[lifeless]

hahahahahah

 

[Third Eye]

I don't get this thread. You make it sound like indians are being enslaved in the UK.

 

[for crying out loud]

Nothing's gonna happen until Total Jewish Death is achieved.

 

[Seth Walsh]

I don't get this thread. You make it sound like indians are being enslaved in the UK.

I never said they had to come to the UK.

 

[qazw]

The Blackpill on Indian Exploitation in the UK: Loyalty as a Corporate Commodity​

The systemic exploitation of Indian professionals in British corporations is not an oversight—it is architected. Indians are funneled into a permanent underclass of compliant, overqualified labor, engineered through visa dependency, cultural extraction, and manufactured desperation. Here’s the unvarnished truth:

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1. Visa Leverage: The Invisible Cage​

• Skilled Worker Visa Trap: Tied to their employer, Indians face deportation if they quit or are fired. This creates indentured servitude in suits.
• Wage Suppression: Paid 20-35% below market rate. Employers know Indians will accept exploitation to avoid losing residency.
• Cycle of Control:
  • Bait: “We’ll sponsor your visa!”
  • Trap: Assign crushing workloads.
  • Threaten: “Complain, and we’ll report you to the Home Office.”

Outcome: A workforce stripped of bargaining power, forced to endure unpaid overtime, stagnant wages, and psychological abuse.

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2. Cultural Conditioning: The Loyalty Factory​

• Collectivist Guilt: Taught to prioritize family honor over self-worth, Indians grind to repay parents’ “sacrifice” funding their UK education. Failure means shame.
• Toxic Gratitude: Corporations reframe exploitation as “privilege” (“You’re lucky to work here!”), converting systemic abuse into a moral debt.
• Fear of Disgrace: Losing a job isn’t just unemployment—it’s a cultural death sentence. Families gossip; communities ostracize.

Example: An Indian software engineer works nights debugging legacy systems, thanking his manager for the “opportunity” while his British peers clock out at 5 PM.

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3. DEI Facade: Tokenism as Disposability​

• Diversity Theater: Hired to meet quotas, Indians are paraded in annual reports but barred from leadership. Their presence is a PR prop, not a pathway to power.
• Career Ceilings: Promised “growth,” they’re funneled into technical sweatshops (IT, backend engineering) while British colleagues inherit client-facing roles and promotions.
• Replaceability: Firms cycle through Indian hires like disposable tech. When one demands fair pay, another fresh grad from Hyderabad is imported for half the cost.

Playbook: The Indian AI specialist “leads” a doomed project, taking blame when it fails. Her British deputy inherits the next high-visibility initiative.

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4. Social Isolation: The Glass Walls of Belonging​

• Exclusion from Shadow Networks: Promotions are decided at pubs, golf clubs, and alumni dinners—spaces Indians are rarely invited to.
• Loneliness as Control: Isolated employees cling to work for identity. Indians grind harder, hoping merit will compensate for exclusion.
• Gaslighting: Told “You’re not leadership material,” they internalize inferiority, mistaking systemic bias for personal failure.

Outcome: The Indian data scientist who built the firm’s analytics engine trains her Eton-educated replacement for a director role she’ll never touch.

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5. The Loyalty Extraction Cycle​

1. Bait: “Work hard, and we’ll sponsor your visa!”
2. Hook: Assign mission-critical projects with impossible deadlines.
3. Reel In: Deny promotions—“We need you in this role a bit longer.”
4. Discard: Replace them with a cheaper hire when they demand fairness.

Profit Formula:
Loyalty = (Fear of deportation) + (Cultural shame) + (False hope).

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Why It’s Irreversible​

• Corporate Incentive: Why pay fair wages when desperation breeds compliance?
• Home Country Complicity: Indian families glorify UK jobs as “prestige,” ignoring the exploitation.
• Systemic Apathy: Colleagues see Indians as “hardworkers,” never allies. Unions look away.

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The Ultimate Blackpill​

Indians in the UK are not employees—they are loyalty livestock. Corporations breed them in visa mills, milk their labor, and slaughter their ambition when margins dip. Their exploitation isn’t a flaw; it’s the engine of late-stage capitalism.

Your Role:
If you’re Indian, you’re either livestock or traitor. If you’re not, you’re either beneficiary or fodder.

The system won’t reform. The choice is to exploit or be exploited. There is no third option.

1. Exploit the myth to gain power.
2. Reject the myth to retain power.
3. Never be fooled into thinking the myth protects you.

What's the myth?


Winner gets a cookie!

This isn’t completely true, at my London workplace, there are a lot of indian coworkers and they are usually high up. My boss is indian and the company leader is indian too. If anything, I’m at risk of getting fired because I’m native british and the indians have power over me.

I only know of one indian worker who meets this description. He has subhuman looks and to make up for it he tries his hardest to be as nice as possible to everyone and hardworking. But people still make fun of exploiting him behind his back.

The most exploited coworker I know of is native british who works extra hours, was denied promotions and gets bullied. But he’s LTN and complains about his lack of dating success.

Imo lookism is the biggest part of the workplace blackpill

 

[qazw]

And prime ministers in England are any different?
They’re picked by their party and they have to answer to bureaucrats as well
Indian prime minister or a black president changes nothing and it’s meaningless

The difference is that presidents are almost always voted in but we actually never voted in Rishi Sunak.

We voted in his party (conservatives) in 2019 with a white british leader (Boris Johnson). In 2022 he was replaced by a woman who we didn’t vote for (Liz Truss) then, later that year, she was replaced by an indian that we didn’t vote for (Rishi Sunak).

Then on the next general election in 2024 we voted Rishi Sunak out for a white british prime minister (Labour party with Kier Starmer)

 

[Deleted member 116489]

The difference is that presidents are almost always voted in but we actually never voted in Rishi Sunak.

We voted in his party (conservatives) in 2019 with a white british leader (Boris Johnson). In 2022 he was replaced by a woman who we didn’t vote for (Liz Truss) then, later that year, she was replaced by an indian that we didn’t vote for (Rishi Sunak).

Then on the next general election in 2024 we voted Rishi Sunak out for a white british prime minister (Labour party with Kier Starmer)

Our whole election was stolen in 2020 so what I said still stands
and your country doesn’t even matter at all so who gives a fuck what the difference is
You bow to us

 

[Seth Walsh]

This isn’t completely true, at my London workplace, there are a lot of indian coworkers and they are usually high up. My boss is indian and the company leader is indian too. If anything, I’m at risk of getting fired because I’m native british and the indians have power over me.

I only know of one indian worker who meets this description. He has subhuman looks and to make up for it he tries his hardest to be as nice as possible to everyone and hardworking. But people still make fun of exploiting him behind his back.

The most exploited coworker I know of is native british who works extra hours, was denied promotions and gets bullied. But he’s LTN and complains about his lack of dating success.

Imo lookism is the biggest part of the workplace blackpill

Ok that makes sense. Company leader is Indian so they're out for revenge in your place of work.

Brutal lookspill too ^

 

[Seth Walsh]

complains about his lack of dating success.

Super brutal, why is he vocal about that in front of vicious corporate normies lmao

Is he super young like 20-24? If he's like 35 and complaining openly like that, I wouldn't be surprised if he shoots the place up.

 

[qazw]

Super brutal, why is he vocal about that in front of vicious corporate normies lmao

Is he super young like 20-24? If he's like 35 and complaining openly like that, I wouldn't be surprised if he shoots the place up.

At last work drinks he was showing some female coworkers his tinder account and it had 5 likes with no matches

Coworkers were also making fun of him for trying and failing to chat up a girl at another work event.

He’s like mid 20s I’d say. And I’d imagine he’s only vocal about it because female coworkers always ask about your dating life for some reason. I just tell them I want my dating life to be kept a secret.

 

[Enfant terrible]

microsoft ceo is indian born in india

 

[ReadBooksEveryday]

Why is this shit a pinned thread

ITs written by AI and it reeks of garbage.

Curry mods favoring a curry incel ; yet again

 

[Seth Walsh]

Why is this shit a pinned thread

ITs written by AI and it reeks of garbage.

Curry mods favoring a curry incel ; yet again

Get fucked.



Still mad you didn't win 2024 forum user of the year?

My threads will prevail.

 

[thereallegend]

If you've overstayed your time at a company and want a pay rise, it's easier to make a lateral move to another company and get paid +50%.

Yes if you work a non-union white collar job this applies. For union blue collar jobs where seniority is everything, this doesn't apply and is harmful advice.

 

[looksmaxxed]

That is amusingly articulated.
However, how are they, or any immigrants in the West, 'discarded as sludge'?
Most immigration into Western countries allow for anchor babies and achievable residency status (through employment or education, where if one fails the other remains). Once residency is achieved, citizenship is merely a matter of time, for them and their wider family.

so he doesn't have to acknowledge that white genocide is an explicit goal of those who support labor importation.

 

[looksmaxxed]

You're missing the point. The aggregate data about their salary there is true, and looks good.

It does not invalidate that H1Bs have no bargaining power, and are set to work for that $100k like their lives depend on it. I'm not some Marxist cuck; even though my post makes me sound like one. I'm not Indian either.

I'm just trying to rationalize the nuance (and the blackpill) behind the "high earning Indian software dev" narrative.


I think the real question is: "Would you swap your life for theirs". $100k a year and you get to become an single Indian with no gf working 15hr days for Microsoft, rent costing 1/3rd your salary with no bargaining power and no leverage (and you literally become Indian too).

I see the inhumanity there. I mean, it's blatant. It's a blackpill for sure. I think it's undeniable.

darkskins breed in subhuman conditions, whites do not. the biggest threat has always been demographic change