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GandyIsNormie

GandyIsNormie

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A mother high T = son T

Why am I a prettyboy instead of an ogre?

@Gargantuan @Toth's thot @Growth Plate @FailedNormieManlet
 
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because you ate soy
 
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What about your dad? Is he an ogre?
 
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What about your dad? Is he an ogre?
5'11 Prettyboy up to 28 :lul::lul::lul:

normie currently

I think if he had eaten better (instead of junk junk) + sunscreen + cardio he would look better
 
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5'11 Prettyboy up to 28 :lul::lul::lul:

normie currently

I think if he had eaten better (instead of junk junk) + sunscreen + cardio he would look better
Mogs me
 
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It is an indisputable scientific fact that you get your androgen receptor gene from your mother, because it is located on the X chromosome. The sensitivity of your androgen receptor only increases the effect of the androgens present in your body. The amount of circulating testosterone present in the body is the result of many factors, including polygenes that you inherit from both parents

Also, people on this forum love to assume just because you have masculine facial features or a wide frame, that automatically makes you high t and it's impossible to be high t as a narrow framed prettyboy, but that isn't true jfl. Androgens play a role in perceived sexual dimorphism but not the only role
 
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It is an indisputable scientific fact that you get your androgen receptor gene from your mother, because it is located on the X chromosome. The sensitivity of your androgen receptor only increases the effect of the androgens present in your body. The amount of circulating testosterone present in the body is the result of many factors, including polygenes that you inherit from both parents

Also, people on this forum love to assume just because you have masculine facial features or a wide frame, that automatically makes you high t and it's impossible to be high t as a narrow framed prettyboy, but that isn't true jfl. Androgens play a role in perceived sexual dimorphism but not the only role
What is the reason for a wide or narrow frame? genetics? testosterone?

My T is not low I suppose, as well, I trained cardio as a child, I slept 8-10h, I was exposed to sunlight :feelswat:
 
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What is the reason for a wide or narrow frame? genetics? testosterone?

My T is not low I suppose, as well, I trained cardio as a child, I slept 8-10h, I was exposed to sunlight :feelswat:
The bones responsible for frame are long bones just like the bones responsible for height, so I'd assume that the genes required, their growth process and the hormones involved would be the same i.e. genes for wide frame/tall height, the gh/igf-1 axis and the impacts of pubertal timing and estrogen levels on the length of one's growth window

Connor Mcgregor is a high t natty framelet. So is Khabib. Khabib fought with bears even as a child. Notice how they have both dom faces and narrow frames. Just because you're high t doesn't mean you're gonna have both

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@Pinhead Returns I think was said to have a wide frame but without muscle and is most likely brutally T-mogged to oblivion by the guys I posted

@GandyIsNormie, your T can still be low despite your optimized environment as all optimized environment would do is optimize your natty T and make sure you're at least as close to your max genetically predisposed natty T as possible jfl

The only impact I can see androgens and the androgen receptor having on perceived frame is the fact that big shoulder muscles can make your frame look wider and the deltoids are one of the most androgen sensitive muscles
 
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The bones responsible for frame are long bones just like the bones responsible for height, so I'd assume that the genes required, their growth process and the hormones involved would be the same i.e. genes for wide frame/tall height, the gh/igf-1 axis and the impacts of pubertal timing and estrogen levels on the length of one's growth window

Connor Mcgregor is a high t natty framelet. So is Khabib. Khabib fought with bears even as a child. Notice how they have both dom faces and narrow frames. Just because you're high t doesn't mean you're gonna have both

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@Pinhead Returns I think was said to have a wide frame but without muscle and is most likely brutally T-mogged to oblivion by the guys I posted

@GandyIsNormie, your T can still be low despite your optimized environment as all optimized environment would do is optimize your natty T and make sure you're at least as close to your max genetically predisposed natty T as possible jfl

The only impact I can see androgens and the androgen receptor having on perceived frame is the fact that big shoulder muscles can make your frame look wider and the deltoids are one of the most androgen sensitive muscles
@Gargantuan mogged
 
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The bones responsible for frame are long bones just like the bones responsible for height, so I'd assume that the genes required, their growth process and the hormones involved would be the same i.e. genes for wide frame/tall height, the gh/igf-1 axis and the impacts of pubertal timing and estrogen levels on the length of one's growth window

Connor Mcgregor is a high t natty framelet. So is Khabib. Khabib fought with bears even as a child. Notice how they have both dom faces and narrow frames. Just because you're high t doesn't mean you're gonna have both

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@Pinhead Returns I think was said to have a wide frame but without muscle and is most likely brutally T-mogged to oblivion by the guys I posted

@GandyIsNormie, your T can still be low despite your optimized environment as all optimized environment would do is optimize your natty T and make sure you're at least as close to your max genetically predisposed natty T as possible jfl

The only impact I can see androgens and the androgen receptor having on perceived frame is the fact that big shoulder muscles can make your frame look wider and the deltoids are one of the most androgen sensitive muscles

Idk if I'd get T mogged tbh but I do have iron toxicity related lower free T (it raises shbg which lowers free t) and having an eating disorder also raises SHBG

my T is pretty high but due to health issues my free T is low. These are temporary issues so once they're dealt with I'd be quite androgenic with my hormonal profile

more about the receptors than anything tbh

Like I beardmog khabib and McGregor and I'm white so I don't have the indian genetics doing it

I also think high t is possible for nearly every male, it just requires a very specific approach that nearly nobody talks about.
 
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I also think high t is possible for nearly every male, it just requires a very specific approach that nearly nobody talks about.
Just tease an idea and never elab theory
 
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cuz it takes an insane amount of effort to write up just to post it in a thread that will die in a day
 
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cuz it takes an insane amount of effort to write up just to post it in a thread that will die in a day
You can make a thread. "Natty high T is possible for every male" would be a thread that would easily blow up. It's not like you're gonna leave this forum. You'll be here for as long as this forum is on the internet most likely. There's nothing wrong with that. It's a based, non-censored forum discussing topics we're interested in, nothing like it
 
You can make a thread. "Natty high T is possible for every male" would be a thread that would easily blow up. It's not like you're gonna leave this forum. You'll be here for as long as this forum is on the internet most likely. There's nothing wrong with that. It's a based, non-censored forum discussing topics we're interested in, nothing like it

Eh it's overly negative and that's the single biggest reason to leave. Everything that goes through your consciousness is stored. Vibration of this place is low as fuck and there's other places to discuss similar topics without the negativity.
 
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cuz it takes an insane amount of effort to write up just to post it in a thread that will die in a day
Just make it short like make it only the actions and steps you need to take and don’t explain any of the science or reason behind it people who believe you will research and follow the steps you outlined and people who won’t won’t but either way not much effort on your part and you still get to to help the ppl serious abt Looksmaxxing.
 

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