ACCUTANE - * Make or Break Me!!!*

[ICL]

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said for him to get bloodwork. Did I elaborate if he should do it weekly, monthly etc? No.

I know you're gonna DNR most of this. But read this at least. IF we can reach common terms [since we both share the same point currently, that bloodwork is needed, any additional nuance is a completely seperate debate] then we should get a conclusion rather than talking back and forth about new points completely redundant to the main point.

If there's still a 1% human in you that wont tell me to kill myself, call me an incel, whatever, then, we can reach a conclusion and stop debating for ones for fucks sake.

@cometohaunted consider in reading this if you will

 

[cometohaunted]

Is that why you stopped arguing right then and there?

If you're so eager to prove the point, we can actually kindly and properly debate without you DNR-ing me or using an emotional factor.

Brah. If you believe it's not necessary for his goals, then you also do not recommend it. Otherwise why would you recommend it?

No, he later agreed he should get a lip lift because you abbandoned the conversation.

Because it was a death tier failo? He had a long phitrum, a 1.5 CTP.
You even said "Some people like nocturnal kent, no matter how good his features are, his long philtrum always fucks him up". That's a death tier failo by your definition. and Inb4 "strawman", that's exactly what you said and we can go back to it if you're eager.

Yea well I made that statement because you were clearly trying to attack me in some kind of emotional way by telling me to kill myself, that I'm a social reject and that I'm a sub90iq incel. Apparently I'm somehow a normie as well with that combo, but, any person can clearly see what you're doing, there was no point in approaching logically

Well that's redundant because we're trying to help people and your looksmaxx opinion isn't perfect and it's fluid.

Yes that's literally what I WANT TO DO
The chang cypionate guy is literally telling him "dont be a pussy". I originally reacted to this negatively because he's a stupid grey and I didn't expect you to appear from nowhere.

Crippling issue when you were the one who left the argument? You're really contradicting here and there.

Well, that's obviously a clear exaggeration, since I didn't expect you to suddenly approach logically.
Look at this

How do you expect me to react to this? You're obviously trolling here and the sudden switch up is not something to continue arguing about
It was also not about hepatoxicity, but how you should pursue bloodwork.
Let's go back to the main point.

I said for him to get bloodwork. Did I elaborate if he should do it weekly, monthly etc? No.

I know you're gonna DNR most of this. But read this at least. IF we can reach common terms [since we both share the same point currently, that bloodwork is needed, any additional nuance is a completely seperate debate] then we should get a conclusion rather than talking back and forth about new points completely redundant to the main point.

If there's still a 1% human in you that wont tell me to kill myself, call me an incel, whatever, then, we can reach a conclusion and stop debating for ones for fucks sake.

See like dude I'm not fucking reading this LMFAOO

 

[cometohaunted]

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@cometohaunted consider in reading this if you will

No dude it's just way too much, I'm not going essay-for-essay with an incel on a forum.

1 paragraph is cool but this is just way too much for my attention span

I'd actually debate with you and educate you on how to make proper arguments but I can't even have a conversation with these essays.

 

[ICL]

No dude it's just way too much, I'm not going essay-for-essay with an incel on a forum.

1 paragraph is cool but this is just way too much for my attention span

I'd actually debate with you and educate you on how to make proper arguments but I can't even have a conversation with these essays.

Brother

I told you to read this single bit.

said for him to get bloodwork. Did I elaborate if he should do it weekly, monthly etc? No.

I know you're gonna DNR most of this. But read this at least. IF we can reach common terms [since we both share the same point currently, that bloodwork is needed, any additional nuance is a completely seperate debate] then we should get a conclusion rather than talking back and forth about new points completely redundant to the main point.

If there's still a 1% human in you that wont tell me to kill myself, call me an incel, whatever, then, we can reach a conclusion and stop debating for ones for fucks sake.

Not the whole thing

 

[cometohaunted]

Brother

I told you to read this single bit.

Not the whole thing

I'll read the entire thing for charity anyways

 

[ICL]

I'll read the entire thing for charity anyways

Nigga

Read the miniscule piece of text

i even rewrote it:


I said for him to get bloodwork. Did I elaborate if he should do it weekly, monthly etc? No.

I know you're gonna DNR most of this. But read this at least. IF we can reach common terms [since we both share the same point currently, that bloodwork is needed, any additional nuance is a completely seperate debate] then we should get a conclusion rather than talking back and forth about new points completely redundant to the main point.

If there's still a 1% human in you that wont tell me to kill myself, call me an incel, whatever, then, we can reach a conclusion and stop debating for ones for fucks sake.

 

[cometohaunted]

If you're so eager to prove the point, we can actually kindly and properly debate without you DNR-ing me or using an emotional factor.

Brah. If you believe it's not necessary for his goals, then you also do not recommend it. Otherwise why would you recommend it?

No, he later agreed he should get a lip lift because you abbandoned the conversation.

Because it was a death tier failo? He had a long phitrum, a 1.5 CTP.
You even said "Some people like nocturnal kent, no matter how good his features are, his long philtrum always fucks him up". That's a death tier failo by your definition. and Inb4 "strawman", that's exactly what you said and we can go back to it if you're eager.

Yea well I made that statement because you were clearly trying to attack me in some kind of emotional way by telling me to kill myself, that I'm a social reject and that I'm a sub90iq incel. Apparently I'm somehow a normie as well with that combo, but, any person can clearly see what you're doing, there was no point in approaching logically

Well that's redundant because we're trying to help people and your looksmaxx opinion isn't perfect and it's fluid.

Yes that's literally what I WANT TO DO
The chang cypionate guy is literally telling him "dont be a pussy". I originally reacted to this negatively because he's a stupid grey and I didn't expect you to appear from nowhere.

Crippling issue when you were the one who left the argument? You're really contradicting here and there.

Well, that's obviously a clear exaggeration, since I didn't expect you to suddenly approach logically.
Look at this

How do you expect me to react to this? You're obviously trolling here and the sudden switch up is not something to continue arguing about
It was also not about hepatoxicity, but how you should pursue bloodwork.
Let's go back to the main point.

I said for him to get bloodwork. Did I elaborate if he should do it weekly, monthly etc? No.

I know you're gonna DNR most of this. But read this at least. IF we can reach common terms [since we both share the same point currently, that bloodwork is needed, any additional nuance is a completely seperate debate] then we should get a conclusion rather than talking back and forth about new points completely redundant to the main point.

If there's still a 1% human in you that wont tell me to kill myself, call me an incel, whatever, then, we can reach a conclusion and stop debating for ones for fucks sake.

I am eager to debate, but I also have priorities and genuine work I have to do. Hence as a man I have to be mature enough to choose between debating someone on a fairly retarded forum or making money.

Also this is called a false dichotomy, it does not have to be the case that I'm against the surgery. I'm not actively recommend it but I'm also not on the negation to it. There's just more nuance to whether you would actively recommend the surgery. If he simply wanted to ascend and mog harder or be a model, Sure be my guest. But he was asking about getting girls in which I explained he looks good enough to get girls so looks or his "philtrum" (satire) is not necessarily the problem. He agreed and proved this in real time.

By death tier failo, I'm constituting that the failo you have brings your looks so far down that you'd be an incel or drops you a few tiers. it was not death tier for him. Death tier can be cashed out as something that's a really bad failo like my death tier infras but it doesn't make me an incel as I have other features to accentuate that. So there's just more specificity there in what I'm saying.

And yes, no ones opinion is perfect. Which is why we're never going to resolve this argument so I don't know why you keep hammering back onto it every time we interact. It's just a difference in ideologies which will literally never have an objective ending besides who argued without making fallacies.

Yes, I know all you want to do is tell him to check bloods but it's implied that the 40mg is like some high dose that he needs bloods for when I'd say just do it regardless of the dose. It gives off the implication that you think accutane is like really detrimental when it's not and is overly-fear mongered in that regard. It also doesn't help that you literally said that i want to kill people with accutane

That's not a contradiction either, you're just allergic to any kind of nuance being shown. Starting to thing this is ragebait at this point. Yes I'm eager to prove my points, but you can legitimately have conflicting feelings about something. Especially when this takes up a lot of time that I could and should be using to make income.

It was about hepatotoxicity? you literally made the argument that accutane could kill u which would be through the mechanism of the liver, aka hepatotoxicity (drug induced liver failure/injury)

Also even if we somewhat agree on the bloodwork point, you still implied it to be necessary to do bloodwork when it really isn't. You should know that your liver is fine as long as you haven't been on any seriously hepatotoxic compounds. in the past or currently. I personally don't think its needed and I wouldn't have done bloods if I wasn't already going to get bloods before doing accutane. but I did it pre accutane and was fine.

You can DNR this idrc, but I genuinely have work to do so we can agree to disagree if you respond.

I don't mind doing a back and fourth on the accutane stuff though, the old argument is so rinsed out and won't be resolved. You're completely blowing my points out of proportions for a shock factor response from other looksmaxxers on this forum.

I AM ALSO NOT AGAINST HARDMAXXING IN ANY WAY, I WILL BE HARDMAXXING MYSELF AS I WANT IT EVEN THOUGH IT ISN'T NECESSARY, HOWEVER IT IS NECESSARY FOR MY GOALS WHICH IS MODELLING. INFRAORBITAL FAT GRAFTING

 

[cometohaunted]

Nigga

Read the miniscule piece of text

i even rewrote it:


I said for him to get bloodwork. Did I elaborate if he should do it weekly, monthly etc? No.

I know you're gonna DNR most of this. But read this at least. IF we can reach common terms [since we both share the same point currently, that bloodwork is needed, any additional nuance is a completely seperate debate] then we should get a conclusion rather than talking back and forth about new points completely redundant to the main point.

If there's still a 1% human in you that wont tell me to kill myself, call me an incel, whatever, then, we can reach a conclusion and stop debating for ones for fucks sake.

You wouldn't write all of that if you didn't want me to reply, I read it and replied anyways

 

[Molecular69]

20mg a day and SPF50 with PA++++ on your face

 

[chang cypionate]

he's a stupid grey

You've been on this forum longer than me yet I'm still more knowledgeable in every aspect of this space than you. You're a high inhib fear mongering faggot who probably just ldars all day and spends his time on this forum. I broke my promise of not replying to you, but I just needed you to know that you should either stop being a high inhib pussy or you should get euthanized.

 

[ICL]

You've been on this forum longer than me yet I'm still more knowledgeable in every aspect of this space than you. You're a high inhib fear mongering faggot who probably just ldars all day and spends his time on this forum. I broke my promise of not replying to you, but I just needed you to know that you should either stop being a high inhib pussy or you should get euthanized.

Okay dude... High inhib for getting a blood test.

Everyone literally disagreed with you as well?

 

[ICL]

I am eager to debate, but I also have priorities and genuine work I have to do. Hence as a man I have to be mature enough to choose between debating someone on a fairly retarded forum or making money.

Also this is called a false dichotomy, it does not have to be the case that I'm against the surgery. I'm not actively recommend it but I'm also not on the negation to it. There's just more nuance to whether you would actively recommend the surgery. If he simply wanted to ascend and mog harder or be a model, Sure be my guest. But he was asking about getting girls in which I explained he looks good enough to get girls so looks or his "philtrum" (satire) is not necessarily the problem. He agreed and proved this in real time.

By death tier failo, I'm constituting that the failo you have brings your looks so far down that you'd be an incel or drops you a few tiers. it was not death tier for him. Death tier can be cashed out as something that's a really bad failo like my death tier infras but it doesn't make me an incel as I have other features to accentuate that. So there's just more specificity there in what I'm saying.

And yes, no ones opinion is perfect. Which is why we're never going to resolve this argument so I don't know why you keep hammering back onto it every time we interact. It's just a difference in ideologies which will literally never have an objective ending besides who argued without making fallacies.

Yes, I know all you want to do is tell him to check bloods but it's implied that the 40mg is like some high dose that he needs bloods for when I'd say just do it regardless of the dose. It gives off the implication that you think accutane is like really detrimental when it's not and is overly-fear mongered in that regard. It also doesn't help that you literally said that i want to kill people with accutane

That's not a contradiction either, you're just allergic to any kind of nuance being shown. Starting to thing this is ragebait at this point. Yes I'm eager to prove my points, but you can legitimately have conflicting feelings about something. Especially when this takes up a lot of time that I could and should be using to make income.

It was about hepatotoxicity? you literally made the argument that accutane could kill u which would be through the mechanism of the liver, aka hepatotoxicity (drug induced liver failure/injury)

Also even if we somewhat agree on the bloodwork point, you still implied it to be necessary to do bloodwork when it really isn't. You should know that your liver is fine as long as you haven't been on any seriously hepatotoxic compounds. in the past or currently. I personally don't think its needed and I wouldn't have done bloods if I wasn't already going to get bloods before doing accutane. but I did it pre accutane and was fine.

You can DNR this idrc, but I genuinely have work to do so we can agree to disagree if you respond.

I don't mind doing a back and fourth on the accutane stuff though, the old argument is so rinsed out and won't be resolved. You're completely blowing my points out of proportions for a shock factor response from other looksmaxxers on this forum.

I AM ALSO NOT AGAINST HARDMAXXING IN ANY WAY, I WILL BE HARDMAXXING MYSELF AS I WANT IT EVEN THOUGH IT ISN'T NECESSARY, HOWEVER IT IS NECESSARY FOR MY GOALS WHICH IS MODELLING. INFRAORBITAL FAT GRAFTING

Will reply

 

[ICL]

am eager to debate, but I also have priorities and genuine work I have to do. Hence as a man I have to be mature enough to choose between debating someone on a fairly retarded forum or making money.

Okay, fair principle

a false dichotomy, it does not have to be the case that I'm against the surgery. I'm not actively recommend it but I'm also not on the negation to it. There's just more nuance to whether you would actively recommend the surgery. If he simply wanted to ascend and mog harder or be a model, Sure be my guest. But he was asking about getting girls in which I explained he looks good enough to get girls so looks or his "philtrum" (satire) is not necessarily the problem. He agreed and proved this in real time.

Well, in the end, he agreed to the lip lift idea. I'd say it brang him down 2 or so mini tiers [lhtn hhtn whatever] so personally the lip lift would be pretty good.

constituting that the failo you have brings your looks so far down that you'd be an incel or drops you a few tiers. it was not death tier for him. Death tier can be cashed out as something that's a really bad failo like my death tier infras but it doesn't make me an incel as I have other features to accentuate that. So there's just more specificity there in what I'm saying.

I understood this as well, but, in my defense, it made him look weird. He's look better and wouldve had no bad or noticable failo.
Also btw if you have death tier infras its probably not the infras, you may have exophthalmos. Js saying.

yes, no ones opinion is perfect. Which is why we're never going to resolve this argument so I don't know why you keep hammering back onto it every time we interact. It's just a difference in ideologies which will literally never have an objective ending besides who argued without making fallacies.

Well because improvement is possible which is why we are on this forum, at first you weren't eager to adapt like this, and DNR'd me and the guy as well. Now you have replied more competently rather than me catching streys so often.

Yes, I know all you want to do is tell him to check bloods but it's implied that the 40mg is like some high dose that he needs bloods for when I'd say just do it regardless of the dose. It gives off the implication that you think accutane is like really detrimental when it's not and is overly-fear mongered in that regard. It also doesn't help that you literally said that i want to kill people with accutane

Okay, forget about the "you're gonna kill him" thats an exaggeration and purely out of spite to make you feel guilty since you were bashing me like i'm a subhuman

That's not a contradiction either, you're just allergic to any kind of nuance being shown. Starting to thing this is ragebait at this point. Yes I'm eager to prove my points, but you can legitimately have conflicting feelings about something. Especially when this takes up a lot of time that I could and should be using to make income.

Well you having conflicting feelings isn't something i can predict. I'm no superhuman

was about hepatotoxicity? you literally made the argument that accutane could kill u which would be through the mechanism of the liver, aka hepatotoxicity (drug induced liver failure/injury)

In reality someone can have liver provlems after using accutane 40mg, depends on how long as well. Forget about the killing argument.

even if we somewhat agree on the bloodwork point, you still implied it to be necessary to do bloodwork when it really isn't. You should know that your liver is fine as long as you haven't been on any seriously hepatotoxic compounds. in the past or currently. I personally don't think its needed and I wouldn't have done bloods if I wasn't already going to get bloods before doing accutane. but I did it pre accutane and was fin

It's definitely beneficial when we're trying to be optimal here. Yet chang guy was calling me a pussy for it, weird.

don't mind doing a back and fourth on the accutane stuff though, the old argument is so rinsed out and won't be resolved. You're completely blowing my points out of proportions for a shock factor response from other looksmaxxers on this forum.

Well i asked you to forget about creating mini discussions redundant to the main point, even before this reply as well. So i'm not really doing anything to you, excoet when you first bashed me I had to prove everyone you were an iqlet (at the time frame) so i brought up some old discussions just for people to understand who they dealt with. Yes this is fallacious but in my defense you were calling me things before you suddenly switched and turned over to argue competently. Then bringing up my reactions to your incompetent replies is not rational. Anyways, we can foeget about this since it's completely redundant as well.

AM ALSO NOT AGAINST HARDMAXXING IN ANY WAY, I WILL BE HARDMAXXING MYSELF AS I WANT IT EVEN THOUGH IT ISN'T NECESSARY, HOWEVER IT IS NECESSARY FOR MY GOALS WHICH IS MODELLING. INFRAORBITAL FAT GRAFTING

Well, a lip lift can be replaced by fat grafting. So the guy can lowkey get a fat graft because of ROI.

 

[cometohaunted]

Okay, fair principle


Well, in the end, he agreed to the lip lift idea. I'd say it brang him down 2 or so mini tiers [lhtn hhtn whatever] so personally the lip lift would be pretty good.



I understood this as well, but, in my defense, it made him look weird. He's look better and wouldve had no bad or noticable failo.
Also btw if you have death tier infras its probably not the infras, you may have exophthalmos. Js saying.


Well because improvement is possible which is why we are on this forum, at first you weren't eager to adapt like this, and DNR'd me and the guy as well. Now you have replied more competently rather than me catching streys so often.


Okay, forget about the "you're gonna kill him" thats an exaggeration and purely out of spite to make you feel guilty since you were bashing me like i'm a subhuman


Well you having conflicting feelings isn't something i can predict. I'm no superhuman


In reality someone can have liver provlems after using accutane 40mg, depends on how long as well. Forget about the killing argument.


It's definitely beneficial when we're trying to be optimal here. Yet chang guy was calling me a pussy for it, weird.


Well i asked you to forget about creating mini discussions redundant to the main point, even before this reply as well. So i'm not really doing anything to you, excoet when you first bashed me I had to prove everyone you were an iqlet (at the time frame) so i brought up some old discussions just for people to understand who they dealt with. Yes this is fallacious but in my defense you were calling me things before you suddenly switched and turned over to argue competently. Then bringing up my reactions to your incompetent replies is not rational. Anyways, we can foeget about this since it's completely redundant as well.

Well, a lip lift can be replaced by fat grafting. So the guy can lowkey get a fat graft because of ROI.

I have a few disagreements/things to question but they're not really worth arguing over, Not much else to say