Ads on org - monetary struggles or GREED?

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@Master please kill yourself as soon as possible, shitskinned nigger. Running a site like this does not cause any sort of monetary deficit. YOU do not need to put ads on org.

Running a dedicated server or higher tier VPS costs at most about ~24 euros per month. A domain (looksmax.org) goes around for about 8 euros per YEAR.

In a year, that accumulates to about (24*12)+8=296EUR

That's all it costs to run Looksmax.org. Per year.

Org has approximately ~50-100 VIP members. At MINIMUM they are paying the... 15 euro per month variant?
Let's assume everyone's a cheap boy and buys that upgrade. We'll go for 75 monthly subscribers and 25 one-time-VIP buyers.

75×15EUR×12months=13,500EUR per year.

That's just 75 members who bought the monthly subscription. I don't know how many have VIP and I am yet to do research on this, but this number is not nothing for sure.

Let's assume the other 25 people bought the 139.99EUR lifetime VIP. I will assume everyone cheaps out to balance the possible "overexaggeration" of the amount of VIP subscribers.

25×139.99=3,499.75EUR
That is an insane amount of money to just get by selling "internet perks."

Let's tally the numbers and see how many years looksmax could run on just the lifetime-VIP profits alone.

3,499.75/269=13 years and 4 days

This means that just off of the one time purchases, Looksmax.org can run for 13 years before inevitably shutting down.

If we assume a steady flow of income from the monthly subscriptions with minimal loss - let's assume an extremely pessimistic loss of 35% of all monthly incoming subscriptions.

75×15×0.65=731.25EUR per month.

You get 730 euros from selling non-existent perks on the internet. And that's after somehow blowing away 35% of the profits. If you have a brain, from earlier you can already deduce that the monthly costs are microbial compared to the subscriptions. With 730 euros, you can easily rent several dedicated servers globally with tens of terabytes of storage and likely still end up with a net profit.

Obviously we can see that he does not actually run the site via load balancers spread globally, since a recent single datacenter outage took out the site for hours. That proves that there's a single dedicated server somewhere, or worse - a single VPS.

Since he doesn't run any serious infrastructure, he has more than enough of the 730 euros left. That means you'd NEVER need to place high-profit ads.

Okay. Let's assume something extremely pessimistic now. Let's say there's actually only 10 monthly VIP users.

10×15=150EUR per month

Even if we go the most pessimistic antagonistic route, we still end up with a decent net profit that the running costs cannot beat.

@Master is a fat faggot (worse of all he's a nigger too) who's decided he'll just buy daily KFC and pay the rent off of the profits from org so he never works a day. He's greedy as shit since even now? Ads.

What you, the user, need to do now
Despite running org at a maximum profit rate, he wants even more profit via ads. You can easily use adblockers to cut off his extra greedy vein of money. The more people that block ads on org, the less extra money this black faggot gets.

TL;DR:
The site's running costs are only about ~30 euros per month, amounting to about 300 euros per year. The income from an extremely pessimistic assumption of subscribers alone is 730 euros even if we consider a 35% loss. We can deduce from this that the fat prick wants nothing but to retire and live off of your money and KFC.

THIS is the greed they talk about in the Bible.

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He's greedy as shit since even now? Ads.
i agree that forcing ads on a forum is pretty shitty, but still, how is that greedy? if i had the option to not work a day in my life from an incel site just from making a bunch of incels watch ads i'd 100% do it aswell lol

and i know you'd also do it
 
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i agree that forcing ads on a forum is pretty shitty, but still, how is that greedy? if i had the option to not work a day in my life from an incel site just from making a bunch of incels watch ads i'd 100% do it aswell lol

and i know you'd also do it
There's no point of forcing ads down users' throats which overall lowers UX and repels users or makes them get an adblock.
 
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Also, your calculations make no sense. Hosting a large forum with 100k+ members cost way more than a few euros per month.

You only kept in mind buying the domain and server costs.

This doesn't keep in mind needing a good machine for running the server which needs atleast 5 GB/s network and 32GB+ of ram. with 16+ cores. This is expensive as shit, i mean it can go up to even 500 euro a month

Database servers also have costs

Search infrastructure costs, and it's pretty expensive

Cloudflare costs a lot, especially since the site gets DDOSed a fuck ton, it's prob above 500 euro a month

Storage for images, probably above 50 euro a month

Backups, prob above 20 euro a month

Xenforo plus xenforo addons and plugins also cost a lot
 
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Also, your calculations make no sense. Hosting a large forum with 100k+ members cost way more than a few euros per month.

You only kept in mind buying the domain and server costs.

This doesn't keep in mind needing a good machine for running the server which needs atleast 5 GB/s network and 32GB+ of ram. with 16+ cores. This is expensive as shit, i mean it can go up to even 500 euro a month

Database servers also have costs

Search infrastructure costs, and it's pretty expensive

Cloudflare costs a lot, especially since the site gets DDOSed a fuck ton, it's prob above 500 euro a month

Storage for images, probably above 50 euro a month

Backups, prob above 20 euro a month

Xenforo plus xenforo addons and plugins also cost a lot
no, cloudflare is free. Bulk storage max ~70eur to store everything. Search infrastructure??? What even are you talking about... its a simple mysql query. 5GB/s? That's insane, would assume there's 40Gbps worth of data constantly being streamed. No provider supports that type of data rate. Backups also dont cost that much. Dedi server does not need to be that beefy, and it is not. Site barely handles 40k members without slowing down immediately signifying either a weak server or bottlenecked internet, both of which are very likely due to neglected infrastructure. Xenforo a one time purchase. Org never sees 100,000 concurrent users ever, mostly these are 60k peak where the majority are bots meaning only simple GET requests are being exchanged, not POST requests.
 
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no, cloudflare is free. Bulk storage max ~70eur to store everything. Search infrastructure??? What even are you talking about... its a simple mysql query. 5GB/s? That's insane, would assume there's 40Gbps worth of data constantly being streamed. No provider supports that type of data rate. Backups also dont cost that much. Dedi server does not need to be that beefy, and it is not. Site barely handles 40k members without slowing down immediately signifying either a weak server or bottlenecked internet, both of which are very likely due to neglected infrastructure. Xenforo a one time purchase. Org never sees 100,000 concurrent users ever, mostly these are 60k peak where the majority are bots meaning only simple GET requests are being exchanged, not POST requests.
eh tbh i'm not gonna pretend like i know anything about servers, you're right, but it's still atleast 100 euro a month, 24 per month is unrealistic
 
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eh tbh i'm not gonna pretend like i know anything about servers, you're right, but it's still atleast 100 euro a month, 24 per month is unrealistic
100 euros is still just ⅐th of the 700 euros, that would allow the capacity of upgrading infrastructure, expanding locations, using load balancers, relying on CDNs. What im saying that even instead of reinvesting this money, @Master shovels the profits down his face
 
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@Master genuinely reply as to why you are shoving bad UX down our throats for no apparent gain
 
But I suppose it’s greed. There are many ppl already that buy VIP but I kinda can understand master, cuz who doesn’t want more money?
 
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