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Orb1cular

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looking for some guidence for what to hop on im 5'8 around 60kgs so just really skinny, hgh? trt, any advice would help
 
even just hit gym to try see how big i could get natural? or just go straight into it?
 
stay natural until ur 18 in anything regarding muscle building. i would even stay away from HGH because 5'8 at 15 is good. this shit isnt a joke trust me and it is genuinely best to wait until you are more well informed and developed. puberty will do alot of work for you. but just learn how to workout before you even hop on like wtf u barely know anything about steroids let alone the gym. i see you are a clavgen so i will remind you that he states most people shouldnt copy what he does for a reason, that being he is an autistic guinea pig.
 
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ofc i know nothing thats why im here
Read BOTB guides. I have a thread on the basics of taking test with ancillaries, made for newbies to test. For you at your age, I recommend an A.I, with HGH and Testosterone and a plethora of Ancillaries to prevent destroyed heath indicators. You want to maximise your growth pathways while youre young.
 
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stay natural until ur 18 in anything regarding muscle building. i would even stay away from HGH because 5'8 at 15 is good. this shit isnt a joke trust me and it is genuinely best to wait until you are more well informed and developed. puberty will do alot of work for you. but just learn how to workout before you even hop on like wtf u barely know anything about steroids let alone the gym. i see you are a clavgen so i will remind you that he states most people shouldnt copy what he does for a reason, that being he is an autistic guinea pig.
Yeah OP he's right but I don't agree with staying natural until you are 18. If you have the knowledge, use it. But you obviously dont OP, so do your own research, learn how to train, and up your knowledge. Genuinely cant believe OP hasn't done a single google search
 
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pub med a good place to start research?
Bro holy clav knowledge. Pubmed is good for new drugs. You are researching the absolute basics. Literally can google search some of this stuff. Hit reddit, even just google pages and articles at your knowledge level. Even youtube atp. Here's a basic research list to get you started:


Testosterone
- Learn side effects, why they are caused, and how to prevent each one. (DHT conversion from test causing hair loss for example)
this will help


HGH
-Learn what the difference between HGH and Growth hormone secretagogues is (Growth hormone peptides for simplicity)
- Learn the side effects and the drugs or lifestyle choices to prevent them

Peptides
- Most peptides are cope, only research MT2 and Reta for simplicity
- Understand how they work, and their limitations
- Difference between nasal spray peptides, and subq peptide this can help





Drugs that have been around for years and are commonly used by thousands of people do not require pubmed research, the effects are clear and well documented.

Everything here can be learnt through simple google searches. Google gemini will probably pop up and give you some answers.
 
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Yeah OP he's right but I don't agree with staying natural until you are 18. If you have the knowledge, use it. But you obviously dont OP, so do your own research, learn how to train, and up your knowledge. Genuinely cant believe OP hasn't done a single google search
i suppose i am being slightly hypocritical because i hopped on at 17, but i also did my research and my balls still work lol
 
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i suppose i am being slightly hypocritical because i hopped on at 17, but i also did my research and my balls still work lol
yeah people saying they dont want to hop on because their balls with shrivel up have 0 iq. takes one google search to learn how to prevent lollol
 
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Just don’t get overwhelmed by the science of all the methods. I would get so stressed. The best starting point that will ascend you are the basics

- tan
- bf percent
- lash/eyebrow
- optimal diet

If u do that you will be ahead of 95% of niggas ur age
 
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