advice and dosing with my cycle at 17?

[ichooseroberto]

this is my first steroid cycle i’ve ran sarms and peptides before but my goal with this upcoming cycle of

Trenbolone Acetate 100mg (10mL

Testosterone Cypionate 200mg (10mL)

with arimidex in hand but i have like 30 1 mg tabs cuz i’m 17 with open growth plates at 17 but my goals with this is somewhat widen my frame or clavicles and for deeper voice and somewhat subtle better gonions and like 4 lbs of lean muscle to help with my cut to look dry and nothing crazy like bodybuilder level in terms of dosing.
I need Advice on how i’m going to dose this for the purpose i’m doing it for effectively and doing this without having to buy dutasteride i don’t wanna bald crazy or start growing a beard that’s a looksmin for me

 

[ichooseroberto]

this is my first steroid cycle i’ve ran sarms and peptides before but my goal with this upcoming cycle of

Trenbolone Acetate 100mg (10mL

Testosterone Cypionate 200mg (10mL)

with arimidex in hand but i have like 30 1 mg tabs cuz i’m 17 with open growth plates at 17 but my goals with this is somewhat widen my frame or clavicles and for deeper voice and somewhat subtle better gonions and like 4 lbs of lean muscle to help with my cut to look dry and nothing crazy like bodybuilder level in terms of dosing.
I need Advice on how i’m going to dose this for the purpose i’m doing it for effectively and doing this without having to buy dutasteride i don’t wanna bald crazy or start growing a beard that’s a looksmin for me

i also have 20 mg of accutane in hand too so we don’t have to worry a lot abt acne and what woukd be a good microdose amount for tren at 6’0 174 lbs

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Youll need some ru58841, p5p, rosuvastin, telmisartan and reta

 

[thatoneguy00]

uncannymaxxing

 

[DxtrMrgn66]

I mean a microdose of tren starts at about 50 mg/week, but for me good results were noticable at 100 mg/week.

For test you should run ~250 mg/week for 2 weeks then check your bloods and just self-reflect if you're feeling alright.

After that you can think about adding more, but for your 1st cycle you should probably stay around 300-400 test tops.

 

[purpleskulltrooper]

p5p, rosuvastin

What about caber and ezetimibe instead of these?

reta

no correlation to anything he said u just threw this in for the insulin sensitivity or what?

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

What about caber and ezetimibe instead of these?

Caber is stronger and more reliable but we dont need it at this dose, ezetime mogs but gets mogged by rosu, rosu is stronger

no correlation to anything he said u just threw this in for the insulin sensitivity or what?

No because hes a fat fuck

 

[purpleskulltrooper]

this is my first steroid cycle i’ve ran sarms and peptides before but my goal with this upcoming cycle of

Trenbolone Acetate 100mg (10mL

Testosterone Cypionate 200mg (10mL)

with arimidex in hand but i have like 30 1 mg tabs cuz i’m 17 with open growth plates at 17 but my goals with this is somewhat widen my frame or clavicles and for deeper voice and somewhat subtle better gonions and like 4 lbs of lean muscle to help with my cut to look dry and nothing crazy like bodybuilder level in terms of dosing.
I need Advice on how i’m going to dose this for the purpose i’m doing it for effectively and doing this without having to buy dutasteride i don’t wanna bald crazy or start growing a beard that’s a looksmin for me

you'll prolly want to get some prescription sleeping pills on hand too im about to start a similar dose cycle ill lyk how it goes for me that's the side effect im most worried for tbh. Insomnia sucks dick

 

[ichooseroberto]

Youll need some ru58841, p5p, rosuvastin, telmisartan and reta

bruh the whole point of this is to run it without buying other extra bs p5p is cheap and cool and i already have reta in hand

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

bruh the whole point of this is to run it without buying other extra bs p5p is cheap and cool and i already have reta in hand

Then roids are not for you, especially not tren, youll just looksmin yourself

 

[ichooseroberto]

Caber is stronger and more reliable but we dont need it at this dose, ezetime mogs but gets mogged by rosu, rosu is stronger

No because hes a fat fuck

this shit is not fat i’m just not lean enough

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

this shit is not fat i’m just not lean enough

Not lean=fat

 

[ichooseroberto]

Then roids are not for you, especially not tren, youll just looksmin yourself

how does 200 mg of a test a week with 30 mg of tren a week sound like with 2 mg of arimidex every monday and wed and saturday

 

[ichooseroberto]

Not lean=fat

confusing shredded with lean is insane im lean just not shredded

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

how does 200 mg of a test a week with 30 mg of tren a week sound like with 2 mg of arimidex every monday and wed and saturday

I mean still not great, the detriment goes down but so do the benefits, and the benefit/detriment ratio will always stay the same, unless you prevent the detriments

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

confusing shredded with lean is insane im lean just not shredded iqlet

Not lean=large portion of bodyfat, "fat" is discribing your body composition, if the body comp is in large proportion fat, then you are fat, stop coping

Everything above 15% is downright disgusting

 

[ichooseroberto]

Not lean=large portion of bodyfat, "fat" is discribing your body composition, if the body comp is in large proportion fat, then you are fat, stop coping

Everything above 15% is downright disgusting

lmaoo i’m not 15 bud i’ve had it measured im 12 percent

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

lmaoo i’m not 15 bud i’ve had it measured im 12 percent

An even slightly accurate body comp reading does not exist

Youre like 20%, at 12% youre very vascular, striated etc and you get abs long before that

 

[ichooseroberto]

An even slightly accurate body comp reading does not exist

Youre like 20%, at 12% youre very vascular, striated etc and you get abs long before that

i am vascular tho

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

i am vascular tho

Not 12% vascular, not even close

 

[ichooseroberto]

Not 12% vascular, not even close
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lmaoo using google images with good lighting to determine what bf percentage looks like

 

[ichooseroberto]

Not 12% vascular, not even close
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david laid for example this example is unethical just stop we know it’s all lighting

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

lmaoo using google images with good lighting to determine what bf percentage looks like

Yoy know what? Lose 10 pounds and come back, if youre 12% rn youll look as lean as tristyn lee or an on stage bodybuilder

If you do ill publically post a video of myself riding a dildo while screaming roberto is my daddy

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

david laid for example this example is unethical just stop we know it’s all lighting

David also used superdrol it seems which gives pumps like nothing else, we also cant confirm these to be taken around the same time and frauding is still far beyond the chart

 

[ichooseroberto]

Yoy know what? Lose 10 pounds and come back, if youre 12% rn youll look as lean as tristyn lee or an on stage bodybuilder

If you do ill publically post a video of myself riding a dildo while screaming roberto is my daddy

yk what sure lets run it

 

[ichooseroberto]

David also used superdrol it seems which gives pumps like nothing else, we also cant confirm these to be taken around the same time and frauding is still far beyond the chart

thought it was suspected he used anavar

 

[Finalkiosk]

I mean a microdose of tren starts at about 50 mg/week, but for me good results were noticable at 100 mg/week.

For test you should run ~250 mg/week for 2 weeks then check your bloods and just self-reflect if you're feeling alright.

After that you can think about adding more, but for your 1st cycle you should probably stay around 300-400 test tops.

3.25mg tren acetate daily seems to work very well, you get a bit more tren per mg and it hits a bit quicker so you notice it.

that being said 10mg tren e daily is like a fucking blessing, drier harder stronger leaner and more vascular even when you eat like shit

 

[ichooseroberto]

3.25mg tren acetate daily seems to work very well, you get a bit more tren per mg and it hits a bit quicker so you notice it.

that being said 10mg tren e daily is like a fucking blessing, drier harder stronger leaner and more vascular even when you eat like shit

been off 15 mg of tren a for like a week now feel nun different just slightly ass slepe quality like when i pee it’s hard to go back to sleep i always supplement with gaba and melatonin

 

[Finalkiosk]

been off 15 mg of tren a for like a week now feel nun different just slightly ass slepe quality like when i pee it’s hard to go back to sleep i always supplement with gaba and melatonin

15mg tren daily?

is it acetate or enanthate?
if its acetate your getting 17% more tren than you think you are

105mg acetate weekly shouldnt make your sleep that shitty, specially if its daily micro administrations

not sure what you could do, if you havent noticed anything on tren then thats cooked, maybe stick to just test

 

[ichooseroberto]

15mg tren daily?

is it acetate or enanthate?
if its acetate your getting 17% more tren than you think you are

105mg acetate weekly shouldnt make your sleep that shitty, specially if its daily micro administrations

not sure what you could do, if you havent noticed anything on tren then thats cooked, maybe stick to just test

acetate i sleep goood it’s js when my fuck ass brother doing his routine he wakes me up in the process and hard to go back to sleep cuz i think a lot either that or maybe im a hyper responder

 

[ichooseroberto]

15mg tren daily?

is it acetate or enanthate?
if its acetate your getting 17% more tren than you think you are

105mg acetate weekly shouldnt make your sleep that shitty, specially if its daily micro administrations

not sure what you could do, if you havent noticed anything on tren then thats cooked, maybe stick to just test

i feel strong as shit and i feel amazing and better bumps and enchanced vascularity

 

[Finalkiosk]

i feel strong as shit and i feel amazing and better bumps and enchanced vascularity

yea tren does all that

if you add in like 5iu hgh its gonna change your life

tren increases igf1 sensitivity at the muscle, so regardless of extra bone growth and the other benefits of hgh, your going to make progress way quicker because those 5iu's are going to act like 8-12, depends on your stack you could make gh up to 3x more effective

i asked claude, and with a basic 280/140/140 test mast tren stack, alongside 100mg melatonin pre bed with 4iu hgh, claude said you could expect the efffects of 7.5-8iu

claude goes over all the mechanisms too, like the test increasing gh sensitivity at the liver, thus producing more igf1 per iu of gh
and melatonins somatostatin lowering effects

also if your on tren you should always take melatonin, it helps prevent that one type of brain cell damage i forgot the name of

its when the branches of your braincells get cut or whatever, leo and longevity goes over it well in his old videos, rip

 

[divinitymax]

Lower the test to 100-150/wk and up the tren and/or add in DHB, methyltren, low-dose halo, and add in 8+iu/day hgh if your goal is muscle, dimo, frame, and height. I would also run proviron cause it feels good but defo get hair support like ru, topical fin, minox, etc on hand and run it throughout your cycle.

 

[ichooseroberto]

yea tren does all that

if you add in like 5iu hgh its gonna change your life

tren increases igf1 sensitivity at the muscle, so regardless of extra bone growth and the other benefits of hgh, your going to make progress way quicker because those 5iu's are going to act like 8-12, depends on your stack you could make gh up to 3x more effective

i asked claude, and with a basic 280/140/140 test mast tren stack, alongside 100mg melatonin pre bed with 4iu hgh, claude said you could expect the efffects of 7.5-8iu

claude goes over all the mechanisms too, like the test increasing gh sensitivity at the liver, thus producing more igf1 per iu of gh
and melatonins somatostatin lowering effects

also if your on tren you should always take melatonin, it helps prevent that one type of brain cell damage i forgot the name of

its when the branches of your braincells get cut or whatever, leo and longevity goes over it well in his old videos, rip

u got a good source around the same price as wwb that take zelle payments?

 

[ichooseroberto]

yea tren does all that

if you add in like 5iu hgh its gonna change your life

tren increases igf1 sensitivity at the muscle, so regardless of extra bone growth and the other benefits of hgh, your going to make progress way quicker because those 5iu's are going to act like 8-12, depends on your stack you could make gh up to 3x more effective

i asked claude, and with a basic 280/140/140 test mast tren stack, alongside 100mg melatonin pre bed with 4iu hgh, claude said you could expect the efffects of 7.5-8iu

claude goes over all the mechanisms too, like the test increasing gh sensitivity at the liver, thus producing more igf1 per iu of gh
and melatonins somatostatin lowering effects

also if your on tren you should always take melatonin, it helps prevent that one type of brain cell damage i forgot the name of

its when the branches of your braincells get cut or whatever, leo and longevity goes over it well in his old videos, rip

tank fully been taking melatonin and gaba it’s been saving me

 

[ichooseroberto]

Lower the test to 100-150/wk and up the tren and/or add in DHB, methyltren, low-dose halo, and add in 8+iu/day hgh if your goal is muscle, dimo, frame, and height. I would also run proviron cause it feels good but defo get hair support like ru, topical fin, minox, etc on hand and run it throughout your cycle.

why lower the test just curious ?

 

[divinitymax]

why lower the test just curious ?

Well 200 a week is not even bad at all but it still runs the risk of some premature closure of the plates. Lowering it to 100-ish would eliminate this but you'd probably feel a lot better on 200+

 

[Finalkiosk]

u got a good source around the same price as wwb that take zelle payments?

if your in canada, growth guys, its not super overpriced but it arrives very very fast and its like 0.7c usd per iu

if your in america maybe qsc

 

[ichooseroberto]

Well 200 a week is not even bad at all but it still runs the risk of some premature closure of the plates. Lowering it to 100-ish would eliminate this but you'd probably feel a lot better on 200+

arimidex?i have some in hand

 

[molecule010]

if your in canada, growth guys, its not super overpriced but it arrives very very fast and its like 0.7c usd per iu

if your in america maybe qsc

wwb is way cheaper

 

[ichooseroberto]

wwb is way cheaper

ur forgetting wwb don’t take zelle

 

[Finalkiosk]

wwb is way cheaper

growth guys gets here by thursday if i order on monday, i value speed, il buy a few overpriced 400iu kits if it means il have gh for a few months.

then once i can chill il look at qsc prices