Afraid to get on test and other substances to build frame

[GlamGuru]

My frame is pretty bad, my clavicle is around 15 inches wide, whereas the average is 16. People often think I'm a kid, and I get disrespected by both men and women on a daily basis.

I've been thinking of RAD140, but I'm scared of losing natural testosterone production after starting and quitting. It's like permanent damage just for a few cm of clavicle length and frame? And I'm 23, so it's like what room is there to even grow?

Advice please.

I tried MK677, and I think it went from 14 inch to 15 inch, not sure though. Maybe I was GH deficient? I had symptoms. It was 12.5 mg daily for 2 months straight. I stopped due to fear of nose and ears growth, and other scaremongering shits like diabetes.

I don't really give a shit about natty status or not, but I do give a shit about health, and permanent damage type of shits that's irreversible. And losing natural test production sounds like a really bad one.

 

[Deleted member 71265]

only hope is surgery at 23

 

[gooner23]

Nothing really increases clavicle length just delts but you lose basically all of it if you plan on hopping off its just a shortcut in a natty phyisque

 

[GlamGuru]

Nothing really increases clavicle length just delts but you lose basically all of it if you plan on hopping off its just a shortcut in a natty phyisque

really? I heard some dude said a friend of his went on MK677 + RAD140 and his shoulders seem to got wider. Was that not clavicle length and more like muscles and delts?

Also, I read a bunch of threads like this one:

How can I make my frame bigger?

I’m around 6”1(185cm)-6”2(187cm) and 170ish pounds. I’m ok with my base looks but I have the frame of a pre pubescent boy and it’s making me look way younger than I’m suppose to. How can I make my frame bigger?

looksmax.org

They actually recommend this guy tests and substances to grow his frame.

Also, is MK677 considered natty?

 

[3links2]

Nothing really increases clavicle length just delts but you lose basically all of it if you plan on hopping off its just a shortcut in a natty phyisque

Lateral delts are cope they only add to the roundness of the tip of your shoulders, they don't actually make them look wider.
As soon as you put a shirt on youll look like a fucking twig again

 

[vaselineforlunch]

Don’t be a pussy

 

[gooner23]

really? I heard some dude said a friend of his went on MK677 + RAD140 and his shoulders seem to got wider. Was that not clavicle length and more like muscles and delts?

Also, I read a bunch of threads like this one:

How can I make my frame bigger?

I’m around 6”1(185cm)-6”2(187cm) and 170ish pounds. I’m ok with my base looks but I have the frame of a pre pubescent boy and it’s making me look way younger than I’m suppose to. How can I make my frame bigger?

looksmax.org

They actually recommend this guy tests and substances to grow his frame.

Also, is MK677 considered natty?

just delt growth

 

[gooner23]

Lateral delts are cope they only add to the roundness of the tip of your shoulders, they don't actually make them look wider.
As soon as you put a shirt on youll look like a fucking twig again

i mean compare phil heath and orc before and after they literally gained inches of horizontal growth, they would've been framecels otherwise