After HTN/HTB tier, beauty becomes subjective

[SwedishMeatball]

There is objectivity to certain point ofc. But anything beyond 5psl maybe even 4.5 psl is subjective. Around htn and htb anything beyond is subjective.

I came to that conclusion when I read a thread who is most beautiful women in the world.

And people posted most beautiful women to them not just beautiful but most beautiful eveeeer. I mean, everybody can agree if someone is ugly, or just average. But after HTN territory, it becomes subjective. Almost none agrees on a particular girl is Stacy/lite/htb when a hot girl posted while I guess everybody would say an obese girl is subhuman.

It's brutal how much preference matters after htn and htb territory.

Aesthetics can't be objective after certain point if whole term is made to describe what others find attractive and it varies a lot. So by definition more beautiful is subjective thing.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Upp

 

[Deleted member 18261]

There is objectivity to certain point ofc. But anything beyond 5psl maybe even 4.5 psl is subjective. Around htn and htb anything beyond is subjective.

I came to that conclusion when I read a thread who is most beautiful women in the world.

And people posted most beautiful women to them not just beautiful but most beautiful eveeeer. I mean, everybody can agree if someone is ugly, or just average. But after HTN territory, it becomes subjective. Almost none agrees on a particular girl is Stacy/lite/htb when a hot girl posted while I guess everybody would say an obese girl is subhuman.

It's brutal how much preference matters after htn and htb territory.

Aesthetics can't be objective after certain point if whole term is made to describe what others find attractive and it varies a lot. So by definition more beautiful is subjective thing.

Maybe

Gandy, dragon, doesn't looks that good to me but forum god herr

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Maybe

Gandy, dragon, doesn't looks that good to me but forum god herr

I have seen guys literally saying Adriana Lima is meh while Barbara Palvin is hot. Or reverse. Idk.

The girl I posted got Chad orbiters while she is rated HTB here.

I am personally sucker for height fogger girls. A 160-170cm girl with 6PSL would be invisible for me while 180cm girl with 5PSL would make me simp for her. I dont deny blackpill tho, any women under 4.5 would be not hot for me, even with nice height.

I think most men are agree on who is ugly or average, (under 4.5psl) while not agree on who is hot. (Over 5psl) Thats the pattern you see on posts also. Whenever some random hot bish posted here, some say htb, some say slite, others say stacy. But if you post any average or ugly girl, everybody will call mtb or under.

 

[Deleted member 18261]

I have seen guys literally saying Adriana Lima is meh while Barbara Palvin is hot. Or reverse. Idk.

The girl I posted got Chad orbiters while she is rated HTB here.

I am personally sucker for height fogger girls. A 160-170cm girl with 6PSL would be invisible for me while 180cm girl with 5PSL would make me simp for her. I dont deny blackpill tho, any women under 4.5 would be not hot for me, even with nice height.

I think most men are agree on who is ugly or average, (under 4.5psl) while not agree on who is hot. (Over 5psl) Thats the pattern you see on posts also. Whenever some random hot bish posted here, some say htb, some say slite, others say stacy. But if you post any average or ugly girl, everybody will call mtb or under.

Bro I'm not reading this shit

 

[whiteissuperior]

Yea I’d say after 5 psl looks are subjective, then other preferences start to matter

Does she like black guys or white guys?
Does she prefer 5 PSL 6’4 or 5.5 PSL 5’11?
Does she like blondes or brunettes?
Beard or no beard?
Short or long hair?
How much does she care about personality?


Her specific preferences for these things and others matter more than being 6 psl vs 7 psl once you reach 5 psl imo

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Def

Yea I’d say after 5 psl looks are subjective, then other preferences start to matter

Does she like black guys or white guys?
Does she prefer 5 PSL 6’4 or 5.5 PSL 5’11?
Does she like blondes or brunettes?
Beard or no beard?
Short or long hair?
How much does she care about personality?


Her specific preferences for these things and others matter more than being 6 psl vs 7 psl once you reach 5 psl imo

Yeah literally.
I know a girl who is stacylite, and rejected many model Chads with robust jaw and dark hair, yet she is simped for a random HTN with long blond hair. I said "WTF" and she answered, "I just like long haired blond men"

Yet, she would reject any guy who's under 4.5PSL, even with long blond hair. My theory stands.

 

[Xangsane]

Def


Yeah literally.
I know a girl who is stacylite, and rejected many model Chads with robust jaw and dark hair, yet she is simped for a random HTN with long blond hair. I said "WTF" and she answered, "I just like long haired blond men"

Yet, she would reject any guy who's under 4.5PSL, even with long blond hair. My theory stands.

She thought those model chads won't commit to her.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

She thought those model chads won't commit to her.

No, they literally simped her, like buying flowers, saying poetic stuff etc. She might thought they are playing game tho, I dont know.
Some girls might have prejudice against Chads that they dont commit. It might be, but she literally simped for a blond HTN who ignored her jfl

 

[Xangsane]

No, they literally simped her, like buying flowers, saying poetic stuff etc. She might thought they are playing game tho, I dont know.
Some girls might have prejudice against Chads that they dont commit. It might be, but she literally simped for a blond HTN who ignored her jfl

They do this a lot; maybe it's because they think Chads have too many options and would leave them for someone better.

 

[Deleted member 4430]

They do this a lot; maybe it's because they think Chads have too many options and would leave them for someone better.

jfl youre such a coper

 

[Xangsane]

No, they literally simped her, like buying flowers, saying poetic stuff etc. She might thought they are playing game tho, I dont know.
Some girls might have prejudice against Chads that they dont commit. It might be, but she literally simped for a blond HTN who ignored her jfl

She 100% thought this. Women want commitment and they assume if a guy is very attractive (even when she's Stacylite+) he would cheat on her or be a statistic in their books.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

They do this a lot; maybe it's because they think Chads have too many options and would leave them for someone better.

Chad have a repuration for being a slayer. Especially among low confidence level girls, some think he is out of his league.
This girl I was talking abt is htb to stacylite but got exotic bonus here. (Since most girls here are blond, brunettes stands out)
Chads doesnt put any efford to ltr average girls. They just say "you and me fuck" and girls say "yeah." But for this girl, they put a decent efford and she just ignored.

While other blond htn simply ignored her and she becomes clingy with him. I dont know if he is playing redpill games but since he is more unreachable, he becomes more valued. Thats the possiblity.

 

[Deleted member 7580]

Def


Yeah literally.
I know a girl who is stacylite, and rejected many model Chads with robust jaw and dark hair, yet she is simped for a random HTN with long blond hair. I said "WTF" and she answered, "I just like long haired blond men"

Yet, she would reject any guy who's under 4.5PSL, even with long blond hair. My theory stands.

Girls have types theory

 

[Xangsane]

Chad have a repuration for being a slayer. Especially among low confidence level girls, some think he is out of his league.
This girl I was talking abt is htb to stacylite but got exotic bonus here. (Since most girls here are blond, brunettes stands out)
Chads doesnt put any efford to ltr average girls. They just say "you and me fuck" and girls say "yeah." But for this girl, they put a decent efford and she just ignored.

While other blond htn simply ignored her and she becomes clingy with him. I dont know if he is playing redpill games but since he is more unreachable, he becomes more valued. Thats the possiblity.

This I know happened to a HTB-stacylite foid I lived with for 2 years (also exotic bonus - she's ethnic but on the "lighter" end)
She'd get attention from very good-looking men, even when dressed shabbily as she wasn't looking for anything, so she just kept them as acquaintances.
She is now in her mid-20s and in an LTR with a tall white chadlite.
I asked her about her dating experiences and she told me she very rarely gets men asking her to just fuck; they go simp mode on her, even good-looking white men.

Meanwhile I lived with an MTB white nerdy foid who'd show off all her Tinder/Bumble matches (all Chadlite+) and she'd cry the next day after having sex with them because she didn't get commitment. Nobody in our house showed any sympathy for her, not even the other foid. I however decided to comfort her because I didn't want her to be left in the dark, but I knew these men were out of her league and would only LTR Stacylite+ (without baggage). This foid is now in an LTR with a white LTN, but reluctantly.

 

[EasternRightWinger15]

Girls have types theory

tbh this

I saw many girls say about some guy that he is gl (so I guess objectively above 5 psl), but wouldn't fuck him for some reason, it's much more complicated and subjective than muh psl rating and that's only taking looks in consideration

 

[LooksOrDeath]

but I knew these men were out of her league and would only LTR Stacylite+ (without baggage). This foid is now in an LTR with a white LTN, but reluctantly.

why not MTN / HTN

 

[Xangsane]

why not MTN / HTN

Too many options.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Girls have types theory

Men have types too.
For me, tall HTB >> short Stacy any day of a week

 

[SwedishMeatball]

This I know happened to a HTB-stacylite foid I lived with for 2 years (also exotic bonus - she's ethnic but on the "lighter" end)
She'd get attention from very good-looking men, even when dressed shabbily as she wasn't looking for anything, so she just kept them as acquaintances.
She is now in her mid-20s and in an LTR with a tall white chadlite.
I asked her about her dating experiences and she told me she very rarely gets men asking her to just fuck; they go simp mode on her, even good-looking white men.

Meanwhile I lived with an MTB white nerdy foid who'd show off all her Tinder/Bumble matches (all Chadlite+) and she'd cry the next day after having sex with them because she didn't get commitment. Nobody in our house showed any sympathy for her, not even the other foid. I however decided to comfort her because I didn't want her to be left in the dark, but I knew these men were out of her league and would only LTR Stacylite+ (without baggage). This foid is now in an LTR with a white LTN, but reluctantly.

HTB and MTB difference is brutal. I guess attractive starts at HTB/HTN?

 

[SwedishMeatball]

tbh this

I saw many girls say about some guy that he is gl (so I guess objectively above 5 psl), but wouldn't fuck him for some reason, it's much more complicated and subjective than muh psl rating and that's only taking looks in consideration

After HTN territory, attraction becomes subjective.

 

[Xangsane]

HTB and MTB difference is brutal. I guess attractive starts at HTB/HTN?

I agree with this yes.
HTBs can get commitment from Chadlites if she proves she's clean with no baggage.
MTBs won't be that lucky, even if they're clean.

 

[aBetterMii]

Chad have a repuration for being a slayer. Especially among low confidence level girls, some think he is out of his league.
This girl I was talking abt is htb to stacylite but got exotic bonus here. (Since most girls here are blond, brunettes stands out)
Chads doesnt put any efford to ltr average girls. They just say "you and me fuck" and girls say "yeah." But for this girl, they put a decent efford and she just ignored.

While other blond htn simply ignored her and she becomes clingy with him. I dont know if he is playing redpill games but since he is more unreachable, he becomes more valued. Thats the possiblity.

Are you drainer?

 

[6ft4]

For me, ideal female face lies somewhere between these two blends whether I am going for low trust slutty look or high trust cute look

Slutty

Cute

How many users here disagree with this?

 

[SwedishMeatball]

I agree with this yes.
HTBs can get commitment from Chadlites if she proves she's clean with no baggage.
MTBs won't be that lucky, even if they're clean.

Most non Psl autist guys rate women in three category: Hot, average, ugly.
IMO, Htb belongs hot while Mtb belongs average. Is it true or Htb belongs average either?

 

[Xangsane]

Most non Psl autist guys rate women in three category: Hot, average, ugly.
IMO, Htb belongs hot while Mtb belongs average. Is it true or Htb belongs average either?

HTB is in between hot and average, I'd say.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

HTB is in between hot and average, I'd say.

You are either hot or average JFL
Most people consider top %20 hot and bottom -%20 ugly, rest are average Joes and Janes.

 

[Deleted member 18301]

Just be a 8psl chad and Stacy so it’s not objective anymore , Imma go do some cold showers a 5.2 curry told me it worked for him

 

[LooksOrDeath]

For me, ideal female face lies somewhere between these two blends whether I am going for low trust slutty look or high trust cute look

Slutty

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Cute

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How many users here disagree with this?

both look slutty

 

[Deprived]

Attraction is subjective

If we define beauty as how attractive you are to the general population then it's easily quantifiable and objective really. But yeah some PSL standards for women I am repulsed by and prefer more neotenous traits

 

[Ascendant]

Starting with HTB level of looks, the biggest factor of attraction becomes the actual character of a woman IRL. A friendly, empathetic and submissive 6/10 in rl will be more fun to be around and spend your time with than a 8.5 narcy, entitled and cold/unempathetic woman.