AGGA Exposed on National Morning News!!

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👉 “Bone Remodeling” “Wolff’s Law” - academic words misused by the #orthotropic apologists to argue that non-invasive and inexpensive methods can grow the jaw.
👉 Unfortunately this “jaw hacking” is too good to be true. Aside from skeletally-anchored appliances like MARPE/MSE (which has a high failure rate used alone without surgery) it is impossible for any devices like AGGA or Homeoblock to EVER grow skeletal bone OR alveolar bone in any relevant time frame. The same goes for #mewing (more on that below.)
👉 Only DENTAL movement is possible (different than SKELETAL movement) in the adult or late teenager by non surgical methods. Dental movement needs to be S-L-O-W for tooth roots to move gently while ALVEOLAR bone remodels around the teeth. (why full braces and invasalign are usually for 1+ years)
👉 There are crazed online communities obsessed with airway and jaw function (The Great Work, other health nut pages run by wackos.) I’m not sure if they are just mentally ill or looking for some seemingly dignified alternative to the looksmax community disguising their pursuit of aesthetics as a pursuit of function. I hear it’s taboo to mention aesthetics without overstating your functional motive in these discord & Facebook groups.
👉 Mewing is just good posture - NOT a treatment. In fact some people will need surgical and orthodontic treatment IN ORDER to mew properly (see my highlighted story on Oral Volume.) Mewing acts as a counterforce to the cheek muscles which prevents orthodontic relapse (see my highlighted story for the facts on mewing.)
👉 One of the most obvious explanations for the popularity of these useless methods is the cost. Surgery is expensive, I get it. It costs a pretty penny to execute a safe, clean surgery. Start saving and budgeting your finances for surgery instead of wasting years of your life on every alternative for no results in the end.
👉 Some people are afraid of surgery because they don’t like pain or risk of complications. Look at the gruesome results of the “minimally invasive” quack alternative!
👉This community and some of its cult leaders have needed to get real for a long time!! I’m so glad to see #AGGA exposed in the mainstream media for the cope it is ✅

I’m dumbfounded by the desperate search for surgical replacement with appliances like AGGA, FacePuller/FaceBow and techniques like thumbpulling, bone smashing.
 
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nice marketing for your clinic.
 
Jew dentists and orthodontists trying to scam everyone. Old news.
 
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whas agga
seems to be a budget MSE, but just by looking at that thing, you know it will cause problems if all it does is push the teeth outwards without expanding the upper palate.
AGGA:
Screenshot 2023 03 14 at 013908
MSE:
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I don't know If i can sympathize with retards that think that results like this constitutes "jaw growth" and keep it in.
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content marketing.
stop crying, he has to eat too and does it by actually improving people's looks instead of selling them dumb scam shit.
 
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seems to be a budget MSE, but just by looking at that thing, you know it will cause problems if all it does is push the teeth outwards without expanding the upper palate.
AGGA:View attachment 2110249 MSE: View attachment 2110250
At least MSE expands by separating an actual suture (if it successfully splits the maxilla’s apart.) but AGGA is pure stupidity
 
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can sleep apneacels get sarpe and then bimax in a few years for airway maxxing?
 
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She got a really bad gap in her teeth from AGGA, but doesn't MSE do that as well? at least with the front teeth. Whats the substantial difference between the two, is AGGA just an inferior MSE?
 
She got a really bad gap in her teeth from AGGA, but doesn't MSE do that as well? at least with the front teeth. Whats the substantial difference between the two, is AGGA just an inferior MSE?
MSE splits mid palatal suture, whilst agga just moves teeth through alveolar modeling. Agga is cope since it doesn’t actually move the maxilla, whilst MSE does actually widen the midface and airways.
 
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👉 “Bone Remodeling” “Wolff’s Law” - academic words misused by the #orthotropic apologists to argue that non-invasive and inexpensive methods can grow the jaw.
👉 Unfortunately this “jaw hacking” is too good to be true. Aside from skeletally-anchored appliances like MARPE/MSE (which has a high failure rate used alone without surgery) it is impossible for any devices like AGGA or Homeoblock to EVER grow skeletal bone OR alveolar bone in any relevant time frame. The same goes for #mewing (more on that below.)
👉 Only DENTAL movement is possible (different than SKELETAL movement) in the adult or late teenager by non surgical methods. Dental movement needs to be S-L-O-W for tooth roots to move gently while ALVEOLAR bone remodels around the teeth. (why full braces and invasalign are usually for 1+ years)
👉 There are crazed online communities obsessed with airway and jaw function (The Great Work, other health nut pages run by wackos.) I’m not sure if they are just mentally ill or looking for some seemingly dignified alternative to the looksmax community disguising their pursuit of aesthetics as a pursuit of function. I hear it’s taboo to mention aesthetics without overstating your functional motive in these discord & Facebook groups.
👉 Mewing is just good posture - NOT a treatment. In fact some people will need surgical and orthodontic treatment IN ORDER to mew properly (see my highlighted story on Oral Volume.) Mewing acts as a counterforce to the cheek muscles which prevents orthodontic relapse (see my highlighted story for the facts on mewing.)
👉 One of the most obvious explanations for the popularity of these useless methods is the cost. Surgery is expensive, I get it. It costs a pretty penny to execute a safe, clean surgery. Start saving and budgeting your finances for surgery instead of wasting years of your life on every alternative for no results in the end.
👉 Some people are afraid of surgery because they don’t like pain or risk of complications. Look at the gruesome results of the “minimally invasive” quack alternative!
👉This community and some of its cult leaders have needed to get real for a long time!! I’m so glad to see #AGGA exposed in the mainstream media for the cope it is ✅

I’m dumbfounded by the desperate search for surgical replacement with appliances like AGGA, FacePuller/FaceBow and techniques like thumbpulling, bone smashing.

"Thats sad man. I hope she and the victims get better. People suffer so much for believing in doctors, when they are teach since they are kids to trust. Its a fucked up world man.
 
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I would say almost everyone to be honest. Very rare to see a large palate.
 
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Mewing is just good posture - NOT a treatment. In fact some people will need surgical and orthodontic treatment IN ORDER to mew properly (see my highlighted story on Oral Volume.) Mewing acts as a counterforce to the cheek muscles which prevents orthodontic relapse (see my highlighted story for the facts on mewing.)
👉 One of the most obvious explanations for the popularity of these useless methods is the cost. Surgery is expensive, I get it. It costs a pretty penny to execute a safe, clean surgery. Start saving and budgeting your finances for surgery instead of wasting years of your life on every alternative for no results in the end.
👉 Some people are afraid of surgery because they don’t like pain or risk of complications. Look at the gruesome results of the “minimally invasive” quack alternative!

super good post OP, as usual
i wish i could double love the post, just for this
some "high rep" people here need to have this rammed down their throats , it seems like
Celebrate In Love GIF by HBO Max


and yeah FAGGA has always been a cope :lul:
 
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super good post OP, as usual
i wish i could double love the post, just for this
some "high rep" people here need to have this rammed down their throats , it seems like
Celebrate In Love GIF by HBO Max


and yeah FAGGA has always been a cope :lul:

Agree 100%, 500 IQ post from him as usual.

And high rep doesn't mean shit tbh, 99.99% of time is because of shitposting. Ironically, the ones who know more are the greycels that dm instead of posting (and are the ones getting the surgeries done too).
 
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2 digits IQ Mewers and other copers on suicide watch. Finally an high IQ post on this forum.
 
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is a 3-piece segmental Lefort 1 substantial for palatal expansion, like will i need to do SARPE after that? My upcoming bimax is 3 piece.
You shouldn’t have to do sarpe after Segmented LeFort
 
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