All 4 online dates flaked. Escortcelling is the only way to get laid

Do any message you first?
Landwhales do

Females I actually want only message first on Bumble. They will jusy say hi or hey
 
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IM 6'1" 165lbs around 15% bodyfat. Im working on improving my phsique, I was 145lbs a year ago.
What’s your face like. Cos I’m 24% bodyfat but due to HTN even I have gotten laid off dating apps before. I suggest using hinge it’s easier to pull girls on
 
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I do pretty much the same thing for all of them.

Me: I like *something about them*
Her: Thanks
Me: What are you up to?
Her: *random activity* and you?
Me: Hanging out with friends getting coffee?
Me: do you like coffee?
Her: Yes bla bla bla
Me: We should go get coffee some time
Her: Sure
Me: Whats your #?
Her: #


Text her
Me: Hey its Ken
Her: Hey
Me: When are you free to get coffee
Her: *random days*
Me: Lets go on *day* at *time*
Her: Sounds good
Me: Alright ill see you there
Her sometimes : wyd? *and we have a generic conversation

Day of date
Me: Hey Becky ill see you at *time*?
Her: Excuse or ghost
Sounds very surface-level and boring. So you do no teasing, no challenging, basically no flirting whatsoever...
As an average guy (as you say you are) that will not cut it for the majority of girls. I'm not surprised they're flaking.

It's an unfortunate truth that the rules are dramatically different for chad - he doesn't need to do any 'game' whatsoever, but for those of us in the average range, you do have to.
 
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What’s your face like. Cos I’m 24% bodyfat but due to HTN even I have gotten laid off dating apps before. I suggest using hinge it’s easier to pull girls on
Average 5/10. I wanted to try hinge but it requires 6 pictures. I only have 2 decent ones that I use.
 
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Either you’re really unlucky or you’re creeping them out over text, where do you live? Girls do flake often even on guys they’re attracted to but you shouldn’t be getting bailed on by 4 chicks
 
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Either you’re really unlucky or you’re creeping them out over text, where do you live? Girls do flake often even on guys they’re attracted to but you shouldn’t be getting bailed on by 4 chicks
That might be it. I only have 2 pics and no bio. Im gonna try to facetime them before we meet now.
I live on the West Coast USA

Ive been bailed on by around 10 girls in 2 weeks.
 
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Maybe try and making the plans for sooner, like night of or next day? Don’t let them get anxious or find chad
 
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I was 10% bf with an elite natty phsyique and yet still incel



Having a good phsyique is bare minimum


You need everything

Fucking everything to be successful with girls in 2022

Low inhb
Loud NT extoverted personality
Elite physique
Good frame
Good clothing
Good social circle
Ruthless escalation skills
Elite OLD pics (blend of social, aesthetic, party pics, physoque pic)
Elite Instagram with 800 followers minimum, pics at parties with girls and at least 20 posts of you around the globe, mogging everyone in your pics

These were the requirements for me

You need minimum looks and status.

Larping as wealthy on tinder is not that hard. Just raise your age to mid 20s and then put down your job title as IB or software dev or something.

Basically all my pics are just random candids/selfies from the gym and my insta is just college athletics shit.

Once you get status it’s ez
 
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I was 10% bf with an elite natty phsyique and yet still incel



Having a good phsyique is bare minimum


You need everything

Fucking everything to be successful with girls in 2022

Low inhb
Loud NT extoverted personality
Elite physique
Good frame
Good clothing
Good social circle
Ruthless escalation skills
Elite OLD pics (blend of social, aesthetic, party pics, physoque pic)
Elite Instagram with 800 followers minimum, pics at parties with girls and at least 20 posts of you around the globe, mogging everyone in your pics

These were the requirements for me

shows how brutal UK is sheesh
 
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IM 6'1" 165lbs around 15% bodyfat. Im working on improving my phsique, I was 145lbs a year ago.
Can you see abs? If not, you're above 15%
 
I give up on trying to lose my virginity using OLD. Ive already had at least 10 girls give me their phone number and agree to a date only to ghost me or flake last minute. Im supposed to have a date tomorrow but shes left me on read all day. My date today cancelled last minute. She offered to reschedule but I know she will do the same thing again.

ITS OVER. Im gonna have to go somewhere where prostituion is legal to lose my virginity. I just wanted to kiss a girl so I would at least not be kissless but even that is impossible.
Feel the same bitches are so selfish
 
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Can OP or anyone explain to my why women do this? I can buy the racking up matches for dopamine/attention/validation... but going so far as to make a date then flake seems to be a juice not worth the squeeze. What gives?
they went with chad last minute
 
I give up on trying to lose my virginity using OLD. Ive already had at least 10 girls give me their phone number and agree to a date only to ghost me or flake last minute. Im supposed to have a date tomorrow but shes left me on read all day. My date today cancelled last minute. She offered to reschedule but I know she will do the same thing again.

ITS OVER. Im gonna have to go somewhere where prostituion is legal to lose my virginity. I just wanted to kiss a girl so I would at least not be kissless but even that is impossible.
:( sucks you see women are so flakey because they have alot of options, the longer you go on without fucking a women your interested in the least likely sex will happen. Remember their are other men you don't even see that are trying to bang the same women your texting or setting up dates with.
 
OP can I see what you look like please? I might have some lifefuel for you :feelsahh:
 
Honestly it's not a girl thing, it's a "young people" thing. Most of my friends are much older than me so I realized now how respectful they are of your time. But people my age (early-mid twenties) flaking was so common I got used to it (guys and girls both)
 
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Honestly it's not a girl thing, it's a "young people" thing. Most of my friends are much older than me so I realized now how respectful they are of your time. But people my age (early-mid twenties) flaking was so common I got used to it (guys and girls both)
Legit guys do it too. I have two male friends flake on me like that recently.
 
are you telling me that with all the dates you had with your oneitis. you couldn't get a kiss?
 
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are you telling me that with all the dates you had with your oneitis. you couldn't get a kiss?
I only had 3 dates with her. I had some acne at the time so I didnt do it. I will regret it forever. Now shes a used up club whore who is declining rapidly. I just saw her get fogged hard by a younger HQNP female.
 
Just rescheduled a date with two of the girls who flaked and a scheduled a date with a new girl. Never give up
 
Honestly it's not a girl thing, it's a "young people" thing. Most of my friends are much older than me so I realized now how respectful they are of your time. But people my age (early-mid twenties) flaking was so common I got used to it (guys and girls both)
Cope. Men don’t flake
 
Just rescheduled a date with two of the girls who flaked and a scheduled a date with a new girl. Never give up
Never give up boyo, they will still prob flake but who knows you may get lucky, I got lucky and fucked stacylite so anything’s possible
 
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Just rescheduled a date with two of the girls who flaked and a scheduled a date with a new girl. Never give up
You're still doing the texting thing wrong tho.
 
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Can OP or anyone explain to my why women do this? I can buy the racking up matches for dopamine/attention/validation... but going so far as to make a date then flake seems to be a juice not worth the squeeze. What gives?

Probably gives them even more of an ego boost to pull that.
 
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I tried texting more with this new girl. She even texted me good morning
It's not about 'more' - it's the substance of your communication which is the issue.

You skip all the fun flirty conversation and ask banal boring questions. I basically never ask girls boring questions on apps ('how are you?' 'What are you up to?' 'What do you do for work' etc.)

See below for an example of what is better.
I fucked this girl a few days later.

Incorporate some more light hearted flirty banter into your conversations and I guarantee if you do it well you'll get less flakes.

188ED51B FE64 45F1 8E91 FEF6293EA28D
 
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just fly to the philippines bruh
Incel in canada = chad in sea esp if ur white just jbw maxx

I have talked a lot to whitecels in the past who went to SEA in order to SEAmax. They reported women there are getting just like in the west and it's over there if you are a sub8 whitecel as whitecels from all over the world are coming to SEA to get laid.
 
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It's not about 'more' - it's the substance of your communication which is the issue.

You skip all the fun flirty conversation and ask banal boring questions.

See below for an example of what is better.
I fucked this girl a few days later.

View attachment 1784156

Why do we always have to be fucking comedians in order to get laid and they don't have to do shit? It seems easier and cheaper to pay a whore.
 
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I have talked a lot to whitecels in the past who went to SEA in order to SEAmax. They reported women there are getting just like in the west and it's over there if you are a sub8 whitecel as whitecels from all over the world are coming to SEA to get laid.
Just go to the provincial areas where there are no foreigners. Im filipino canadian and I'm literally going back to the philippines where i belong and i match with 18-24 year olds just fine as a 16 year old incel here
 
Why do we always have to be fucking comedians in order to get laid and they don't have to do shit? It seems easier and cheaper to pay a whore.
That is hardly being a 'comedian'... it's called flirting.

JFL @ asking why women don't have to do anything... do you even biology bro...

You clearly haven't swallowed the blackpill if you have to ask this question.
 
there is no way to get laid in 2022 unless you have a girlfriend

Also online dating doesn’t work. don’t feel bad it’s not you, it’s the system

women have way too many options
 
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Is that the case for sub percentile 80 males?
Not really, I was just joking. But for most men if they don’t wannna fuck girls below a 6 then yes escorts is the only way

I’d say 50% of men are incels
 
not a single yoctopixel
 
It's not about 'more' - it's the substance of your communication which is the issue.

You skip all the fun flirty conversation and ask banal boring questions. I basically never ask girls boring questions on apps ('how are you?' 'What are you up to?' 'What do you do for work' etc.)

See below for an example of what is better.
I fucked this girl a few days later.

Incorporate some more light hearted flirty banter into your conversations and I guarantee if you do it well you'll get less flakes.

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What’s the censored thing? I don’t get it.
 
Holy shit! How fast things have scalated in a couple of years
The reason why most men get laid is because most men are willing to fuck fat women and 4/10 women

If men had standards like females then 80% of men would be truecels im not even kidding
 
The reason why most men get laid is because most men are willing to fuck fat women and 4/10 women

If men had standards like females then 80% of men would be truecels im not even kidding
Wait is that 50% men with high standards or just in general?, also what age group?, I find hanging out with other males to be an absolute waste of time so I have no idea what the world is like for other males (I am on University btw)
 
Wait is that 50% men with high standards or just in general?, also what age group?, I find hanging out with other males to be an absolute waste of time so I have not idea what's the world lyrics ke for other males (I am on University btw)
50% of men have normal standards as in they don’t like fatties, the other 50% will fuck anything that has a pulse
 
Holy shit! How fast things have scalated in a couple of years
Corona made it significantly worse for men.

Every female acquaintance on my ig seems like they’re living in a San Pellegrino advert, and every festival they go to in summer unknown Chads who mog them to the absolute depths of hell magically seem to appear in their photos (maybe simping as well, carrying them on their shoulders and with full ‘soyface’ smile lol).

Most of the male acquaintances, on the other hand, seem lonely and depressed.

Can’t remember who said it on here but covid and life being lived increasingly online made the market more ‘efficient’. Now those women who weren’t initially aware now have fully internalised that they have access to literally ‘perfectly hot’ guys at the snap of their fingers, and rich guys trying to convince her to let her be flown out by him and put up in luxury hotels and presumably bought shit.
 
I was 10% bf with an elite natty phsyique and yet still incel



Having a good phsyique is bare minimum


You need everything

Fucking everything to be successful with girls in 2022

Low inhb
Loud NT extoverted personality
Elite physique
Good frame
Good clothing
Good social circle
Ruthless escalation skills
Elite OLD pics (blend of social, aesthetic, party pics, physoque pic)
Elite Instagram with 800 followers minimum, pics at parties with girls and at least 20 posts of you around the globe, mogging everyone in your pics

These were the requirements for me

This is an exceptional physique, especially for a natty but most roiders out there don’t look anywhere near this good.

Reminder that this is the 1% of the 1% of male physiques, and women’s standards now are absolutely insane.
 
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This is an exceptional physique, especially for a natty but most roiders out there don’t look anywhere near this good.

Reminder that this is the 1% of the 1% of male physiques, and women’s standards now are absolutely insane.
Thanks bro, I worked like a dog to achieve it back then
 
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