All this mental masturbation about looks. Status is all that matters.

[Dbeyduvudhs]

Your looks should be an engine to generate as much status as possible.

the alpha vs non alpha bullshit is just a waste of time.

david dobrinik is the least alpha male guy alive. He has had sex with more girls than all the guys in your local golds gym combined.

being good looking is just an inference of high social status to women (and it’s awesome because it travels with you)

Look up “Diablo” on instagram. This guy has unlimited sex. He’s like a psl 4-5

 

[Deleted member 14455]

Another guy who think he got this all figured out.

 

[Dbeyduvudhs]

The issue with most looksmaxers is that they had trauma in the past that makes them want to avoid social attention (and the pressures that accommodate it)

so they want to use a “back door” method of indicating status (looks)

if they were able to address the psychological trauma that makes them want to avoid attention it would help immensely.

I guarantee most looksmaxers have a corresponding fear of public speaking.

 

[Dbeyduvudhs]

Another guy who think he got this all figured out.

I’m not sure honestly. I’m just postulating a hypothesis.

 

[gamma]

But having women lusting for your look is more validating
Sex...you could become rich and fuck a top escort but that's it

 

[Deleted member 12234]

Status is only one part of your SMV (Looks, Status, Wealth, Fame, Charisma, Personality, Lifestyle).

 

[AlexAP]

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Damn, that's a low status for .org

 

[Dbeyduvudhs]

In my personal life experience — the only personality trait that confers a sexual advantage has been willingness to draw social attention (usually in the form of loudness or other activities that draw attention — much more so than people who dress outlandish)

in my opinion, people have less respect for those who attempt to draw attention with their style and more respect for those who use their voice or some physical activity

probably due to the fact that the latter requires more bravery.

 

[Dbeyduvudhs]

Status is only one part of your SMV (Looks, Status, Wealth, Fame, Charisma, Personality, Lifestyle).

In my opinion status is at the top of the pyramid and all the other positives just confer status.

imagine you’re a billionare but you live frugally like Warren Buffett.

it won’t do much in the way of helping your appeal to women. Why?

because money is only attractive insofar as it raises your social status.

the safety element of having billions but living frugally does little to generate attraction.

buying a loud lambo that can be shown off so people see you in it and your status is raised will help immensely.

 

[Deleted member 12234]

In my opinion status is at the top of the pyramid and all the other positives just confer status.

imagine you’re a billionare but you live frugally like Warren Buffett.

it won’t do much in the way of helping your appeal to women. Why?

because money is only attractive insofar as it raises your social status.

the safety element of having billions but living frugally does little to generate attraction.

buying a loud lambo that can be shown off so people see you in it and your status is raised will help immensely.

Yeah but it's unattainable for the average person. Atleast someone can looksmax their way to getting better looking women. And, even then, this is only one part. If you have a combination of these in your favor, you'll do well. I think looksmaxxing isn't just for attracting mates but to take care of yourself overall. You'll feel better mentally, get treated better, and avoid health problems down the line. Sure, you can take the time to increase your status but unless you have some rare, desired skill or are already goodlooking or are born rich, it's infeasible. Someone can looksmax today.

 

[Dbeyduvudhs]

Yeah but it's unattainable for the average person. Atleast someone can looksmax their way to getting better looking women. And, even then, this is only one part. If you have a combination of these in your favor, you'll do well. I think looksmaxxing isn't just for attracting mates but to take care of yourself overall. You'll feel better mentally, get treated better, and avoid health problems down the line. Sure, you can take the time to increase your status but unless you have some rare, desired skill or are already goodlooking or are born rich, it's infeasible. Someone can looksmax today.

I’m suggesting that the main issue is some form of trauma in formative years that makes people afraid to put themselves in socially leading situations.

essentially fear of public speaking is exactly synonymous with inability to generate social status. (Unless done strictly online - but that’s pretty damn rare I concede)

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

The issue with most looksmaxers is that they had trauma in the past that makes them want to avoid social attention (and the pressures that accommodate it)

so they want to use a “back door” method of indicating status (looks)

if they were able to address the psychological trauma that makes them want to avoid attention it would help immensely.

I guarantee most looksmaxers have a corresponding fear of public speaking.

it's caused by looks though. fixing your looks is literally tackling the root cause.

 

[Deleted member 12234]

I’m suggesting that the main issue is some form of trauma in formative years that makes people afraid to put themselves in socially leading situations.

essentially fear of public speaking is exactly synonymous with inability to generate social status. (Unless done strictly online - but that’s pretty damn rare I concede)

Maybe but this has nothing to do with looksmaxxing lol. Women looksmax from young ages and are taught to from young ages too. Does this mean they have "trauma"? Why is it trauma when men do it?

 

[Dbeyduvudhs]

Yeah but it's unattainable for the average person. Atleast someone can looksmax their way to getting better looking women. And, even then, this is only one part. If you have a combination of these in your favor, you'll do well. I think looksmaxxing isn't just for attracting mates but to take care of yourself overall. You'll feel better mentally, get treated better, and avoid health problems down the line. Sure, you can take the time to increase your status but unless you have some rare, desired skill or are already goodlooking or are born rich, it's infeasible. Someone can looksmax today.

Also you must view attractive women as a resource.

for instance if every man become a psl 8

do you think the result would be equal distribution of sex? No

there would occur new barometers for a males social status.

the social status is the limiting factor in attraction. - always.

 

[Deleted member 12234]

Also you must view attractive women as a resource.

for instance if every man become a psl 8

do you think the result would be equal distribution of sex? No

there would occur new barometers for a males social status.

the social status is the limiting factor in attraction. - always.

I know. I clearly said there were multiple factors to SMV. Hence "SMV (Looks, Status, Wealth, Fame, Charisma, Personality, Lifestyle)". I believe SMV > PSL. I'm not a looksmaxx autist. I just recognize that looks play a huge role in your SMV.

 

[Dbeyduvudhs]

Maybe but this has nothing to do with looksmaxxing lol. Women looksmax from young ages and are taught to from young ages too. Does this mean they have "trauma"? Why is it trauma when men do it?

Men have physical fetishes.

I’ll provide an example

many men are only into fat women. Bbw fetishes. Why is this? Because men have physical fetishes, they don’t give a shit that heavy women aren’t socially regarded as the best.

Do you think women have fetishes for fat men? Or hairy men? Or bald men? Or men with recessed chins? No

why is that? Because women are using the consensus on what is socially high value lookswise and adjusting their physical preferences after

men already know what they like physically and don’t give a shit what’s popular and what’s not.

 

[Dbeyduvudhs]

I know. I clearly said there were multiple factors to SMV. Hence "SMV (Looks, Status, Wealth, Fame, Charisma, Personality, Lifestyle)". I believe SMV > PSL. I'm not a looksmaxx autist. I just recognize that looks play a huge role in your SMV.

Correct but you need to have knowledge of which qualities are where and where they rank in order to better make decisions

for example let’s say you look “better” skinny. Objectively so. But you live in a culture where fat men are regarded as higher status.

you’re better off forgoing the “primal looks increase” in favor of attaining the appearance of status.

that’s why you must always accommodate status as king.

there are tribes that are the men with the most stretched ear holes are the highest status.

huge gaping stretched ears don’t look objectively good.

but you’re better off as one of those tribal members to stretch the damn ears.

Because status is king.

 

[Deleted member 12234]

Men have physical fetishes.

I’ll provide an example

many men are only into fat women. Bbw fetishes. Why is this? Because men have physical fetishes, they don’t give a shit that heavy women aren’t socially regarded as the best.

Do you think women have fetishes for fat men? Or hairy men? Or bald men? Or men with recessed chins? No

why is that? Because women are using the consensus on what is socially high value lookswise and adjusting their physical preferences after

men already know what they like physically and don’t give a shit what’s popular and what’s not.

Everyone has fetishes and kinks.. I can name atleast a dozen shit I was into as a teenager and an adult now. And I have alot of female friends and they tell me all the shit they're into too. It's not just restricted to men. It's pretty much a human condition and result of our vivid sexual imaginations. Look at how asian women fetishize white men.. or how people fetishize us black men. I had a girl recently tell me that she "knows I have a BBC". All you're doing is cherrypicking some arbitrary fetish and switching the gender. There are literal kink websites out there and forums out there, inwhich alot of women take part in. I just think that because women are still looked down upon as hoes if they participate in this shit, they just hide it more.. It doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

 

[Deleted member 12234]

Correct but you need to have knowledge of which qualities are where and where they rank in order to better make decisions

for example let’s say you look “better” skinny. Objectively so. But you live in a culture where fat men are regarded as higher status.

you’re better off forgoing the “primal looks increase” in favor of attaining the appearance of status.

that’s why you must always accommodate status as king.

there are tribes that are the men with the most stretched ear holes are the highest status.

huge gaping stretched ears don’t look objectively good.

but you’re better off as one of those tribal members to stretch the damn ears.

Because status is king.

Most looks theory shit only applies to western countries. Although, there has been some stuff that implements other cultures into it. For example, I think the height shit (6 feet) only applies to white people since they tend to be taller. But for other races, my rule is to just be 2 inches above average (desirable) and don't be more than 2 inches below average (undesirable). Same shit about body weight. Some cultures may be more open to accepting chubbier men and women. For example, us black and latin people tend to like our women with more meat. However, this doesn't change the fact that there are some features that are generally attractive across all ethnicities. On top of this, what you're ignoring is that status isn't black and white. Usually, people get status because they already have alot of features going for them. Let's go back to my SMV thing (Looks, Status, Wealth, Fame, Charisma, Personality, Lifestyle). Status isn't black and white. People get status from loads of different thing. It can be from looks, wealth, fame, or even lifestyle. A normie looking guy can have status from just having a great personality so he can be well known at all the local clubs. Women will notice this and be interested in him based on that alone. However, not all women will be though. There are women who can careless about status and care more for looks. So a "chad" can be lesser known but if he has other features to compliment his looks (not including status), it'll better help him. Like if he has a fun lifestyle, women will be interested in him, despite him not having any status or not being well known. SMV is multiple of these factors being pieced together. But people who are generally goodlooking will generally date people within their looksmatch anyway. Same thing for people who aren't that goodlooking.