Alpha fucks, beta bucks but..aren’t beta men still rewarded with children?

[Deleted member 51576]

Yes it’s true that alphas don’t have to work for sex and females break every rule they have for them but beta men still get to be the dominant cohort that has children, right? I know there are few cases where an alpha man impregnates a female and the beta Man unknowingly raises someone else’s child but this can’t be THAT common. For the most part, beta men show females that they’re resourceful, have a steady income and can provide like the compensatory cucks that they are. The reward is children, which is.. a big deal, imo.

Seems like betas lose every battle but ultimately win the war.

 

[Deleted member 21182]

Not 100% of the time the reason women in humans is one of the only species to not signalise her fertility mating time is exactly so she can basically insure the best genetics (aka cheat on u) and at the same time have the inferior man take care of her baby since Chad isn’t willing to do so

And this is much more common than u think, in black couples u have a 60% chance and I’d say in white 40% chance ur a cuck

 

[Deleted member 51576]

Not 100% of the time the reason women in humans is one of the only species to not signalise her fertility mating time is exactly so she can basically insure the best genetics (aka cheat on u) and at the same time have the inferior man take care of her baby since Chad isn’t willing to do so

And this is much more common than u think, in black couples u have a 60% chance and I’d say in white 40% chance ur a cuck

I get it & agree to a small extent but there is just no way that 40% of white men are unknowingly raising other men’s children.

 

[Deleted member 21182]

I get it & agree to a small extent but there is just no way that 40% of white men are unknowingly raising other men’s children.

My nigga yes there is

It’s literally women instinct and ur chances increase by a lot the longer u wait

Women also won’t tell u, they will convince themselves and their conscience it’s not important

Most men just accept the kid don’t take any paternity tests

 

[Deleted member 51576]

My nigga yes there is

It’s literally women instinct and ur chances increase by a lot the longer u wait

Women also won’t tell u, they will convince themselves and their conscience it’s not important

Most men just accept the kid don’t take any paternity tests

My extreme hatred for the female specimen grows stronger each and every day

 

[mortis]

The only reward is taking the virginity of a stavy and owning her.

 

[try2beme]

Their children arent reward

Cucks give their daughters neoteneus faces they use with their bodies to whore around

 

[Sanguinius]

In your scenario are you assuming that alphas don’t have children?

 

[Deleted member 51576]

In your scenario are you assuming that alphas don’t have children?

Maybe they do. I’m assuming that alpha men don’t settle. This is the great dilemma for every female, isn’t it? Most alpha men that they want will not settle & have kids with them but they will have casual sex.

Am I wrong?

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Yes it’s true that alphas don’t have to work for sex and females break every rule they have for them but beta men still get to be the dominant cohort that has children, right? I know there are few cases where an alpha man impregnates a female and the beta Man unknowingly raises someone else’s child but this can’t be THAT common. For the most part, beta men show females that they’re resourceful, have a steady income and can provide like the compensatory cucks that they are. The reward is children, which is.. a big deal, imo.

Seems like betas lose every battle but ultimately win the war.

Yeah women being the muh eugenic sex is a meme. Especially with contraception

Women fuck around with chad but don't get knocked up avoiding the consequences young then at 30 they end up with the biggest redditor nerd beta cucks. And generally have their oofy doofy children. If women were smart they would find a decent man who is a bit above their looks level or wealthy/smart young but they shoot for chad and by the time they realize their mistakes they end up with losers who they would never date in their prime.

Its pure dysgenics women are anything but rational and mate selection done by women with modern day contraception is the opposite of a eugenic force. The ironic thing is if women were forced to make an honest decision they would end up with a higher quality man to marry then they will as roasties but women don't think. I guess just be woman is pretty unstoppable so they always have some nerd but overall it is a negative thing for everyone. The beta loses the roasties lose only arguable winner is Jews and Chad maybe

 

[hirochan]

Not 100% of the time the reason women in humans is one of the only species to not signalise her fertility mating time is exactly so she can basically insure the best genetics (aka cheat on u) and at the same time have the inferior man take care of her baby since Chad isn’t willing to do so

And this is much more common than u think, in black couples u have a 60% chance and I’d say in white 40% chance ur a cuck

this may not be true for now since there is still an element of trad Christian society thats present along with whatever conservative immigrant culture but once we are in full gear with modern liberalism and degeneracy you bet your ass those ridiculous numbers will become a reality.

 

[longjohnmong]

alpha fucks, beta bucks is retard shit made up by retards. i dated a girl as a subhuman myself for 10 years and came in her 1000 times and didn't have a job the entire time

 

[Deleted member 51576]

Yeah women being the muh eugenic sex is a meme. Especially with contraception

Women fuck around with chad but don't get knocked up avoiding the consequences young then at 30 they end up with the biggest redditor nerd beta cucks. And generally have their oofy doofy children. If women were smart they would find a decent man who is a bit above their looks level or wealthy/smart young but they shoot for chad and by the time they realize their mistakes they end up with losers who they would never date in their prime.

Its pure dysgenics women are anything but rational and mate selection done by women with modern day contraception is the opposite of a eugenic force. The ironic thing is if women were forced to make an honest decision they would end up with a higher quality man to marry then they will as roasties but women don't think. I guess just be woman is pretty unstoppable so they always have some nerd but overall it is a negative thing for everyone. The beta loses the roasties lose only arguable winner is Jews and Chad maybe

By what metric are we defining chads as winners? just by them being able to sleep around as often as they want? Do these people ultimately settle and have kids or?

 

[MoggerGaston]

came in her 1000 times

brutally mogs me

 

[Deleted member 11126]

By what metric are we defining chads as winners? just by them being able to sleep around as often as they want? Do these people ultimately settle and have kids or?

Most Chads I know end up family men in their mid to late 20s.

The roasties lose the betas lose and most normal guys too since chad ruins the market for them. Basically it just leads to people being miserable because women end up resenting the betas they are stuck with.

 

[Napoleon de Geso]

Only tradcucks see it as reward

 

[Deleted member 51576]

Only tradcucks see it as reward

What is the better option? Dying alone with no kids or grandkids?

 

[Deleted member 11126]

At the end of the day hypergamy + contraception leads to a sterile society. Look at prime examples like south korea .7 kids per woman.

Women either die alone or end up with some oofy doofy and both parties are unhappy. They would have been happier had they settled down quicker with some guy their parents recommended instead they end up with guys they will forever resent.

The end result is either total childlessness or children born in completely loveless homes by two parents whom despise eachother but settled out of desperation at the last minute. I really think its a bad system for almost all involved.

 

[Gonthar]

The reward is children, which is.. a big deal, imo.

Reward????
Lol, now they're more like a punishment, just expensive, difficult to raise pets, that you have less and less control over them with each passing year or the government can simply take them away from you, a very bad investment over all.
Back in the old days, the kids were actually yours, you had full control over them, you decided how to raise them, you put them to work on your farm, they were actually valuable; the more kids you had, the better you were.

 

[Napoleon de Geso]

What is the better option? Dying alone with no kids or grandkids?

Searchin for kemonowaifu, or fapping to animu waifu or maybe even getting officially married. After achieving freedom from shackles of traditionalism, it is all about happiness and honor

 

[tervile1]

Yes it’s true that alphas don’t have to work for sex and females break every rule they have for them but beta men still get to be the dominant cohort that has children, right? I know there are few cases where an alpha man impregnates a female and the beta Man unknowingly raises someone else’s child but this can’t be THAT common. For the most part, beta men show females that they’re resourceful, have a steady income and can provide like the compensatory cucks that they are. The reward is children, which is.. a big deal, imo.

Seems like betas lose every battle but ultimately win the war.

its very comon most men in west raising not their sperm

 

[Deleted member 51576]

At the end of the day hypergamy + contraception leads to a sterile society. Look at prime examples like south korea .7 kids per woman.

Women either die alone or end up with some oofy doofy and both parties are unhappy. They would have been happier had they settled down quicker with some guy their parents recommended instead they end up with guys they will forever resent.

The end result is either total childlessness or children born in completely loveless homes by two parents whom despise eachother but settled out of desperation at the last minute

Strongly agree but the funniest thing is that the females that end up childless and alone are literally still happier than the pragmatic alternative and normal scenario, which is monogamy with a looksmatch.

It is bordering on insanity that these women are sincerely happier working full time with a guaranteed meaningless and lonesome life rather than a secure life with a man who isn’t the perfect Christian Grey that they feel they deserve.

But, good for them. As long as they’re content in their misery, more power to them.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Strongly agree but the funniest thing is that the females that end up childless and alone are literally still happier than the pragmatic alternative and normal scenario, which is monogamy with a looksmatch.

It is bordering on insanity that these women are sincerely happier working full time with a guaranteed meaningless and lonesome life rather than a secure life with a man who isn’t the perfect Christian Grey that they feel they deserve.

But, good for them. As long as they’re content in their misery, more power to them.

I think the fact that a lot of women do settle for oofy doofy guys is more a sign that most women are desperate in the end. I don't mean this in the redpill cope fashion with the wall being a nexus point where men win or some gay shit. Its more like society loses. The longer a woman is on the chad carsol the harder it is for her to accept reality and by the time it becomes obvious she is losing her charms she can no longer get the objectively good man she should have had. in the end we all lose.

Contraception should be banned and marriage/families should be encouraged as the only normal way to get into a relationship. This will create a completely sterile miserable society even those that do procreate will create a worse generation then the last that is ironically more dysgenic.

Of course no woman will either have the rationality to reflect on this or even if she can she won't admit it to herself. I don't actually hate women in this situation imagine 14+ you are given 24/7 attention and you had access to top tier girls many don't realize this is a short term thing and that in life you need to settle everyone has to settle in some way. We all have flaws especially in the modern world expecting a perfect person when you are flawed will never work for society. I have accepted this too society is built on sacrifices and compromises.


Btw fun fact did you know rome discovered a plant similar to modern day birth control at the last days of the republic it was said that the birth rates were low and barbarians were outnumbering Romans in their own city since the society was not procreating. There is evidence that the discovery of this plant sped up or even was a major part of Rome's final collapse

 

[Deleted member 11126]

@horizontallytall at this point I think even JBpilled creeps like you have a point. I can understand how someone would see this as the only way perhaps it really is.

 

[Deleted member 51576]

I think the fact that a lot of women do settle for oofy doofy guys is more a sign that most women are desperate in the end. I don't mean this in the redpill cope fashion with the wall being a nexus point where men win or some gay shit. Its more like society loses. The longer a woman is on the chad carsol the harder it is for her to accept reality and by the time it becomes obvious she is losing her charms she can no longer get the objectively good man she should have had. in the end we all lose.

Contraception should be banned and marriage/families should be encouraged as the only normal way to get into a relationship. This will create a completely sterile miserable society even those that do procreate will create a worse generation then the last that is ironically more dysgenic.

Of course no woman will either have the rationality to reflect on this or even if she can she won't admit it to herself. I don't actually hate women in this situation imagine 14+ you are given 24/7 attention and you had access to top tier girls many don't realize this is a short term thing and that in life you need to settle everyone has to settle in some way. We all have flaws especially in the modern world expecting a perfect person when you are flawed will never work for society. I have accepted this too society is built on sacrifices and compromises.


Btw fun fact did you know rome discovered a plant similar to modern day birth control at the last days of the republic it was said that the birth rates were low and barbarians were outnumbering Romans in their own city since the society was not procreating. There is evidence that the discovery of this plant sped up or even was a major part of Rome's final collapse

Can you elaborate on the South Korea bit? Is hypergamy the reason why they’re consistently topping the charts for country with lowest fertility rate? I don’t know anything about them tbh

 

[Abhorrence]

@horizontallytall at this point I think even JBpilled creeps like you have a point. I can understand how someone would see this as the only way perhaps it really is.

JBpillers always had a point ngl

 

[Abhorrence]

@horizontallytall at this point I think even JBpilled creeps like you have a point. I can understand how someone would see this as the only way perhaps it really is.

just be first is law

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Can you elaborate on the South Korea bit? Is hypergamy the reason why they’re consistently topping the charts for country with lowest fertility rate? I don’t know anything about them tbh

South Korea has a huge issue with feminism


Its the most lookist status driven society in all of Asia. They even made a korean anime about the topic since looks are so important there. I've spoke to Korean men the feminism there is worse then even America or Europe. Its the nation where kdrama and kpop stars cater to women its got some of the highest standards for East Asian men in the entire world

 

[Deleted member 11126]

just be first is law

humans were meant to form families in their teens early 20s at the latest.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Yeah women being the muh eugenic sex is a meme. Especially with contraception

Women fuck around with chad but don't get knocked up avoiding the consequences young then at 30 they end up with the biggest redditor nerd beta cucks. And generally have their oofy doofy children. If women were smart they would find a decent man who is a bit above their looks level or wealthy/smart young but they shoot for chad and by the time they realize their mistakes they end up with losers who they would never date in their prime.

Its pure dysgenics women are anything but rational and mate selection done by women with modern day contraception is the opposite of a eugenic force. The ironic thing is if women were forced to make an honest decision they would end up with a higher quality man to marry then they will as roasties but women don't think. I guess just be woman is pretty unstoppable so they always have some nerd but overall it is a negative thing for everyone. The beta loses the roasties lose only arguable winner is Jews and Chad maybe

@MongolTurk @GuyFromSingapore @AlexBrown84 @Ai Impact @JBWNeetcel (your Asian so I'd like to hear yours too) thoughts?

 

[GuyFromSingapore]

@MongolTurk @GuyFromSingapore (your Asian so I'd like to hear yours too) thoughts?

Jews are the biggest betabuxes. So I don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Deleted member 51576]

South Korea has a huge issue with feminism


Its the most lookist status driven society in all of Asia. They even made a korean anime about the topic since looks are so important there. I've spoke to Korean men the feminism there is worse then even America or Europe. Its the nation where kdrama and kpop stars cater to women its got some of the highest standards for East Asian men in the entire world

Wow this is fascinating and I had no idea. The only mainstream normie explanation I see on south koreas fertility rate is that “having kids is too expensive and people are too busy workin’ & government won’t do nothin “. It always sounded fishy and unconvincing!

 

[SubSigma]

Beta and alpha has to take care of chads children, not their own.

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Wow this is fascinating and I had no idea. The only mainstream normie explanation I see on south koreas fertility rate is that “having kids is too expensive and people are too busy workin’ & government won’t do nothin “. It always sounded fishy and unconvincing!

That is for sure a factor but it is rarely the entire or even main reason. Japan has a way worse work culture but still is almost double the birth rates 1.3 vs 0.7

So they can't be the only reason Japan has a very similar issue but the two societies are still fundamentally different. My theory is that Korea is much more influenced by the West. Japan while Western in many ways only took the economic/technological strategies and is still very much an isolated island culture that it always has been

 

[Deleted member 25198]

Whoever procreates is the alpha

 

[Abhorrence]

humans were meant to form families in their teens early 20s at the latest.

here i am with 0 social experiences and multiple mental disorders in my 20s
What the fuck am I even supposed to do

Family is tired of me being a rotter leech
Am I supposed to commit sui or sumn at this point

 

[incelconspiracy]

Since when were children a reward? Maybe if you get to rape them.

 

[Deleted member 51576]

Whoever procreates is the alpha

Reddit tier take

 

[Deleted member 11126]

here i am with 0 social experiences and multiple mental disorders in my 20s
What the fuck am I even supposed to do

Family is tired of me being a rotter leech
Am I supposed to commit sui or sumn at this point

Smokes cigs and write complex theories on an obscure incel website or read like me?

But yeah in conclusion to this thread Japan mogs Korea

 

[Abhorrence]

But yeah in conclusion to this thread Japan mogs Korea

Japan indeed mogs Korea

Smokes cigs and write complex theories on an obscure incel website or read like me?

people like us end up doing that by default bruv its not like we had a choice
I was born and over time I got pushed in to these communities without even noticing what was going on
Now idk what the fuck I am doing

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Japan indeed mogs Korea

people like us end up doing that by default bruv its not like we had a choice
I was born and over time I got pushed in to these communities without even noticing what was going on
Now idk what the fuck I am doing

Idk I just come here to blow off steam. Writing keeps my mind fresh I have too many thoughts and ideas in my head. It hurts to keep it bottled up its better to type then to dwell on them.

Once I have compiled an idea or a theory I can finally move on its out of my system. Its a sad state of affairs I am here rotting on an incel forum if I were alive in the 19th century I'd be a philosopher or something

 

[Deleted member 51576]

here i am with 0 social experiences and multiple mental disorders in my 20s
What the fuck am I even supposed to do

Family is tired of me being a rotter leech
Am I supposed to commit sui or sumn at this point

I’m also in my 20s and have decided for a few years now to just live for my family. I take care of my parents and make sure they’re happy & that’s largely it. There is much meaning in giving back to those who have given so much to you and sacrificed so much. I’m quite happy as well to be honest.

Nobody will ever love you like your parents

 

[Abhorrence]

Idk I just come here to blow off steam. Writing keeps my mind fresh I have too many thoughts and ideas in my head. It hurts to keep it bottled up its better to type then to dwell on them.

Nowadays I go on inkwell rants to my parents (these rants are not that extreme though I just try to explain whats going on in my mind without going full schizo incel mode)

It helps a bit better than being stuck in online forums

 

[Deleted member 11126]

Nowadays I go on inkwell rants to my parents (these rants are not that extreme though I just try to explain whats going on in my mind without going full schizo incel mode)

It helps a bit better than being stuck in online forums

I have no one irl who would be worthwhile to speak to.

 

[Abhorrence]

I have no one irl who would be worthwhile to speak to.

All I have is my family tbh

I could have made geniune friends I wouldn't end up this lonely
Too bad I wasted my time trying to fit in with normalfags
Normalfags are backstabbing dogs and you can't open up to them about shit

its kinda my fault

 

[Deleted member 11126]

All I have is my family tbh

I could have made geniune friends I wouldn't end up this lonely
Too bad I wasted my time trying to fit in with normalfags
Normalfags are backstabbing dogs and you can't open up to them about shit

its kinda my fault

The reason I still have any friends is I keep ideas like this to myself. Its lonely but I am okay with it

 

[Abhorrence]

The reason I still have any friends is I keep ideas like this to myself. Its lonely but I am okay with it

I have friends too I didn't go complete lone wolf mode just yet
But hanging out with them feels miserable af as I can't relate to them about shit and I have to mask my real personality 24/7

I know how ur feeling

 

[Deleted member 11126]

I have friends too I didn't go complete lone wolf mode just yet
But hanging out with them feels miserable af as I can't relate to them about shit and I have to mask my real personality 24/7

I know how ur feeling

Keep on learning Japanese. Although why not get a Turk girl aren't they fine?

 

[Abhorrence]

I have friends too I didn't go complete lone wolf mode just yet
But hanging out with them feels miserable af as I can't relate to them about shit and I have to mask my real personality 24/7

I know how ur feeling

@Witheredly90 its obvious people i hang out with irl are just as miserable as me but its almost as if its impossible for them to drop their ego and accept it

My uni is a incel factory shithole with fucked up gender ratio all of us are miserable here

 

[MongolTurk]

@MongolTurk @GuyFromSingapore @AlexBrown84 @Ai Impact @JBWNeetcel (your Asian so I'd like to hear yours too) thoughts?

The dysgenic structure you outlined doesn’t refute the the fact that women are the eugenic half of the human race by nature. There is a reason their sexual impulses lead them to the Chad’s when they’re young and peak attractiveness, the dysgenic structure is merely the product of both modern contraception and the contemporary career-centric, femenistesque mindset that most women have adopted. By nature, they are still the eugenic sex, and are innately hypergamous. This is a tenet of the BP, women are just getting suboptimal results because of recent shifts in technology and social attitudes.