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I would assume this is a majority atheist place ask me any questions you have about Christianity or explain your opinions.

 

[crazyguy]

I would assume this is a majority atheist place ask me any questions you have about Christianity or explain your opinions.

what type of christian are you

 

[pepelkant]

I would assume this is a majority atheist place ask me any questions you have about Christianity or explain your opinions.

Are you that weakminded to seek help from an imaginary individual, rather dealing with the issue yourself?

 

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what type of christian are you

Im interested in orthodoxy so im researching that right now

 

[Node]

Why do subhumans exist

 

[pinterest]

Are you that weakminded to seek help from an imaginary individual, rather dealing with the issue yourself?

What makes you think god is imaginary

 

[crazyguy]

Im interested in orthodoxy so im researching that right now

i just wonder why theres so much infighting between christians

 

[takethewhitepill]

I am a Christian myself, and wanted to know your thoughts on the following. If possible please support with scripture but its okay if you don't since it takes some time to write out.
Annihilationism
Literalism for numeric values throughout the bible
Literalism up to genesis 11
Is Jesus God because the Bible says so and it'd the word of God or is the bible the word of God because Jesus says so and He is God?
Solar scriptura, sola fide or otherwise?
Will heretics who are led astray by the devil but still praise and trust in God be given salvation, such as Unitarians?
My biggest question is: is it justly that we are saved, that is do we deserve salvation even though we are sinners; is it justice for us to be under grace rather than law?
Are some sins worse than others, besides the sin of hating the Holy Spirit?
Is masturbation a sin, necessarily?
Was the thief on the cross under the new or old covenant?
Thoughts on schism and reformation, as well as papal lineage?
Papal authority, remembering that Paul corrected the first Pope?
How best to evangelise?
Tithing?
If I think of anything else I'll make another reply but that's most of the things I think about, some things like prayer to the dead I think are worth discussing but are clear in scripture

 

[takethewhitepill]

i just wonder why theres so much infighting between christians

Because most Christians don't take it seriously or lust for power or otherwise and forsake the gospel for their own shit

 

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Why do subhumans exist

There are no “subhumans” because we are all made in the image of god, however humans in their sinful nature treat unattractive people sub-humanly. God never intended for this 1 Samuel 16:7 says, "But the LORD said to Samuel, “Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him, the LORD does not look at the things people look at, God never intended for any ugliness or suffering either and created the world without it but humanity sinned and left god creating all suffering. Romans 8:18 says: "I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us in heaven, Philippians 3:21 says that the Lord Jesus Christ "will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body.

 

[pepelkant]

What makes you think god is imaginary

Have you seen him?

 

[pinterest]

i just wonder why theres so much infighting between christians

Because of differences in beliefs for example the trinity.

 

[pinterest]

Have you seen him?

I cant see gravitational forces i might start floating at any moment

 

[pinterest]

I am a Christian myself, and wanted to know your thoughts on the following. If possible please support with scripture but its okay if you don't since it takes some time to write out.
Annihilationism
Literalism for numeric values throughout the bible
Literalism up to genesis 11
Is Jesus God because the Bible says so and it'd the word of God or is the bible the word of God because Jesus says so and He is God?
Solar scriptura, sola fide or otherwise?
Will heretics who are led astray by the devil but still praise and trust in God be given salvation, such as Unitarians?
My biggest question is: is it justly that we are saved, that is do we deserve salvation even though we are sinners; is it justice for us to be under grace rather than law?
Are some sins worse than others, besides the sin of hating the Holy Spirit?
Is masturbation a sin, necessarily?
Was the thief on the cross under the new or old covenant?
Thoughts on schism and reformation, as well as papal lineage?
Papal authority, remembering that Paul corrected the first Pope?
How best to evangelise?
Tithing?
If I think of anything else I'll make another reply but that's most of the things I think about, some things like prayer to the dead I think are worth discussing but are clear in scripture

High effort reply bro, will take awhile to respond.

 

[Mainlander]

There are no “subhumans” because we are all made in the image of god, however humans in their sinful nature treat unattractive people sub-humanly. God never intended for this 1 Samuel 16:7 says, "But the LORD said to Samuel, “Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him, the LORD does not look at the things people look at, God never intended for any ugliness or suffering either and created the world without it but humanity sinned and left god creating all suffering. Romans 8:18 says: "I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us in heaven, Philippians 3:21 says that the Lord Jesus Christ "will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body.

 

[takethewhitepill]

Have you seen him?

Are we serious bro? Have you ever seen the big bang? Evolution? Did you watch the moon landing yourself? Have you seen Julius caesar be killed let alone live? Did you ever see Napoleon? It is through evidence that we make conclusions

 

[takethewhitepill]

High effort reply bro, will take awhile to respond.

Np bro if you need to write multiple parts response you can

 

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Dnr give me a logical reply

 

[takethewhitepill]

Because of differences in beliefs for example the trinity.

Unitarians aren't Christians because they believe Jesus was a messenger of God and not God Himself

 

[GhostBoySwag]

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mainlander how do you upload videos here whenever i try to, it always makes the user download the video.

 

[Mainlander]

mainlander how do you upload videos here whenever i try to, it always makes the user download the video.

Click on that insert button on that video

 

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I would say if life is pointless why are you scrolling .org instead of roping but i forgot you're a pre-programmed robot so you have no choice or free will.

 

[GhostBoySwag]

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[Mainlander]

I would say if life is pointless why are you scrolling .org instead of roping but i forgot you're a pre-programmed robot so you have no choice or free will.

Yeah because there is no reason to live if god doesnt exist

 

[GhostBoySwag]

I would say if life is pointless why are you scrolling .org instead of roping but i forgot you're a pre-programmed robot so you have no choice or free will.

 

[joan]

I have a question as a Christian myself. I know you don't know the answer but why did god create us. He is perfect and therefore he is self-sufficient. Another one is why does God punishes us for eternity for using our free will that he gave us, despite the fact we didn't choose to be born or wanted to.

 

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Yeah because there is no reason to live if god doesnt exist

All it is, is suffering without reward, 20 years studying, 50 years work for 5 years retirement. Plus you're on .org so no wife or family and then its over, I genuinely see no point.

 

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You do realize what no free will entails?

 

[takethewhitepill]

Yeah because there is no reason to live if god doesnt exist

Amen

 

[pinterest]

I have a question as a Christian myself. I know you don't know the answer but why did god create us. He is perfect and therefore he is self-sufficient. Another one is why does God punishes us for eternity for using our free will that he gave us, despite the fact we didn't choose to be born or wanted to.

I would say the same reason people have children. And if god doesn't punish then evil wins.

 

[takethewhitepill]

I have a question as a Christian myself. I know you don't know the answer but why did god create us. He is perfect and therefore he is self-sufficient. Another one is why does God punishes us for eternity for using our free will that he gave us, despite the fact we didn't choose to be born or wanted to.

The answer to this is a shift in your perspective. You have a humanity centric world view naturally, but when you realise that we are pathetic vile beings who serve no real purpose unless we glorify God you realise that God does what God wants. It's not a very satisfying answer, but its just that He is a potter and we are clay so He does whatever He wants for no real reason except to make something good (with the clay set aside for honourable use)

 

[joan]

I would say the same reason people have children.

People are not perfect. They have instincts.

And if god doesn't punish then evil wins.

Yes, but why do we have to fight against evil and struggle all our lifes if we weren't born by choice.

 

[joan]

The answer to this is a shift in your perspective. You have a humanity centric world view naturally, but when you realise that we are pathetic vile beings who serve no real purpose unless we glorify God you realise that God does what God wants. It's not a very satisfying answer, but its just that He is a potter and we are clay so He does whatever He wants for no real reason except to make something good (with the clay set aside for honourable use)

It's not logical for God to create or need something outside himself if he is perfect.

 

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People are not perfect. They have instincts.

Yes, but why do we have to fight against evil and struggle all our lifes if we weren't born by choice.

Can you elaborate on the second question

 

[joan]

The answer to this is a shift in your perspective. You have a humanity centric world view naturally, but when you realise that we are pathetic vile beings who serve no real purpose unless we glorify God you realise that God does what God wants. It's not a very satisfying answer, but its just that He is a potter and we are clay so He does whatever He wants for no real reason except to make something good (with the clay set aside for honourable use)

And if it is to make something good why not make is perfect and good and erase the devil?

 

[takethewhitepill]

I have a question as a Christian myself. I know you don't know the answer but why did god create us. He is perfect and therefore he is self-sufficient. Another one is why does God punishes us for eternity for using our free will that he gave us, despite the fact we didn't choose to be born or wanted to.

Sorry forgot to respond to second part. Again we the clay don't question the potter setting aside honourable and dishonourable piles of clay but to answer your question it's a few misconceptions.
1 there is no eternal punishment, bible says sinners go to hell to die.
2 we don't have free will God has preselected those of us who will follow Him
3 this is less of a bible thing but philosophical. You can only and will always be you. There is no existing or not, because you will always be born from your parents and you will always be born as you. You are you because you could not be anyone else. And nobody else could be you. Other guy responded a bit to this so I won't retread ground

 

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All it is, is suffering without reward, 20 years studying, 50 years work for 5 years retirement. Plus you're on .org so no wife or family and then its over, I genuinely see no point.

@Mainlander bro has no argument so just reacts

 

[takethewhitepill]

It's not logical for God to create or need something outside himself if he is perfect.

Chapter and verse where God must be logical and not able to just do what He wants?

 

[yex]

Christianity is a fake religion stolen from the jews

 

[joan]

Can you elaborate on the second question

Ok. I mean that we were born not by choice and we are forced to fight and struggle against evil and it's unfair to punish while we didn't choose to be born.

 

[Mainlander]

If God is said to be perfect and wholly good

and if suffering first entered the world through the free choice of Adam and Eve

then why do creatures beyond human influence endure pain?

Why does a deer crushed beneath a falling tree, or the bird slowly starving in winter have to suffer when no human sin is involved?

What purpose could such anguish serve

if a perfectly good God governs all things?

Why would He permit innocent animals untouched by moral fault,to bear torment and misery?

 

[takethewhitepill]

And if it is to make something good why not make is perfect and good and erase the devil?

As I say there are 2 piles of clay. But when I say make something good I mean eventual heaven the same way there are ups and downs as you make pottery but you result in a nice pot. And evil exists because God is glorified in defeating it and He can do that if He wants the same way we could put cheats in a video game and win instantly but we don't

 

[joan]

Sorry forgot to respond to second part. Again we the clay don't question the potter setting aside honourable and dishonourable piles of clay but to answer your question it's a few misconceptions.
1 there is no eternal punishment, bible says sinners go to hell to die.

Aren't you talking against the bible? This is your own assumption. I thought he'll is eternal suffering if I'm not mistaken.

2 we don't have free will God has preselected those of us who will follow Him

Aren't you talking against the bible? This is your own assumption.

3 this is less of a bible thing but philosophical. You can only and will always be you. There is no existing or not, because you will always be born from your parents and you will always be born as you. You are you because you could not be anyone else. And nobody else could be you. Other guy responded a bit to this so

I didn't understand sorry

I won't retread ground

I genuinely need answers don't bother.

 

[joan]

Christianity is a fake religion stolen from the jews

Dumbest response here

 

[joan]

As I say there are 2 piles of clay. But when I say make something good I mean eventual heaven the same way there are ups and downs as you make pottery but you result in a nice pot. And evil exists because God is glorified in defeating it and He can do that if He wants the same way we could put cheats in a video game and win instantly but we don't

Please elaborate again I'm sorry

 

[yex]

Dumbest response here

You're retarded

 

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If God is said to be perfect and wholly good

and if suffering first entered the world through the free choice of Adam and Eve

then why do creatures beyond human influence endure pain?

Why does a deer crushed beneath a falling tree, or the bird slowly starving in winter have to suffer when no human sin is involved?

What purpose could such anguish serve

if a perfectly good God governs all things?

Why would He permit innocent animals untouched by moral fault,to bear torment and misery?

God created a perfect world without suffering.

Humans revolt against him and hide from him.

God takes a step back and nature unravels.

My rebuttal is if there is no god why care about that deer, you're higher on the food chain and evolutionary scale.

Thats a win for you, free meal if we still hunted and scavenged.

 

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Christianity is a fake religion stolen from the jews

Your evidence and reasoning for that

 

[Mainlander]

God created a perfect world without suffering.

Humans revolt against him and hide from him.

God takes a step back and nature unravels.

My rebuttal is if there is no god why care about that deer, you're higher on the food chain and evolutionary scale.

Thats a win for you, free meal if we still hunted and scavenged.

@wishIwasSalludon I think I have never seen a more retarded user tbh

 

[takethewhitepill]

If God is said to be perfect and wholly good

and if suffering first entered the world through the free choice of Adam and Eve

then why do creatures beyond human influence endure pain?

Why does a deer crushed beneath a falling tree, or the bird slowly starving in winter have to suffer when no human sin is involved?

What purpose could such anguish serve

if a perfectly good God governs all things?

Why would He permit innocent animals untouched by moral fault,to bear torment and misery?

Animals never ate from the tree of life nor of knowledge of good and evil. There are 2 traditional views on this. First is that animals always lived lives and died and new ones took their place as offspring, and that animals dont have spirits but rather are part of the world and respond to stimulus without knowledge of good and evil. The second is more popular now and that is that during the fall we are all punished for Adams sin including animals but not the same way because they don't know good and evil so cannot sin. There is no real reason for them to do much of anything but they do and it's fine because God can do whatever He wants to His creations