AMA, only hardcore roider here.

[expert]

I am currently on a mild dose of tren enanthate (200mg), and 400mg of test c
Peptides wise im using:
Hgh: AM/PM injection, 7iu total, 3iu/4iu
Igf1-des localized injection PM: Currently started my des cycle 2-3 days ago, pinning 100mcg on my chin, 5 on/ 2 off. 1h after hgh (pinning on 3 different chin spots)
Ghk-cu: 5mg daily


Ancillaries wise:
Im currently using 12.5mg eod of aromasin
0.25mg of caber each tren injection
1200mg of NAD
4000iu vitamin D
~2000mg potassium split up *all elemental*
500-600mg of magnesium *all elemental*
And some couple bs coloring supps (lycopene 50mg, betacaretone 30mg)
And using 60mg clenbuterol as a mild diuretic, and to burn couple extra calories.


My experience on this:
Pretty much no side effects on the oils part, i mostly had some roid rage and extra irritation , some brain fog.
My nipps are a bit puffy, mostly because of extreme water retention from not titrating up hgh.
My bp,bpm,sugar in blood,etc is on a perfect range.

My lipids,liver,kidney is doing great.

My diet mostly consists in very lean meats as chicken,turkey (high in leucin)
And starches and grains, like rice,white bread,pasta,etc you get it.
I do eat some veggies and fruit at mid day, for the fiber.
Dont eat veggies at am or pm, because it messes up carb absorption, and messes up the insulin peak.

Mostly eating around 300-400g of carbs, 160-180g of protein, around 20-40g of fat.
On my non workout days i dont eat as much carbs, only for hgh injections.


I gained 12kg in almost 4 weeks on tren. Lost 3-5% of bf.

Im 184cm,81kg,15-16% bf, just turned 16.

Still havent really noticed face gains, but not a worry.
Its a long term game.

 

[Epochs]

I am currently on a mild dose of tren enanthate (200mg), and 400mg of test c
Peptides wise im using:
Hgh: AM/PM injection, 7iu total, 3iu/4iu
Igf1-des localized injection PM: Currently started my des cycle 2-3 days ago, pinning 100mcg on my chin, 5 on/ 2 off. 1h after hgh (pinning on 3 different chin spots)
Ghk-cu: 5mg daily


Ancillaries wise:
Im currently using 12.5mg eod of aromasin
0.25mg of caber each tren injection
1200mg of NAD
4000iu vitamin D
~2000mg potassium split up *all elemental*
500-600mg of magnesium *all elemental*
And some couple bs coloring supps (lycopene 50mg, betacaretone 30mg)
And using 60mg clenbuterol as a mild diuretic, and to burn couple extra calories.


My experience on this:
Pretty much no side effects on the oils part, i mostly had some roid rage and extra irritation , some brain fog.
My nipps are a bit puffy, mostly because of extreme water retention from not titrating up hgh.
My bp,bpm,sugar in blood,etc is on a perfect range.

My lipids,liver,kidney is doing great.

My diet mostly consists in very lean meats as chicken,turkey (high in leucin)
And starches and grains, like rice,white bread,pasta,etc you get it.
I do eat some veggies and fruit at mid day, for the fiber.
Dont eat veggies at am or pm, because it messes up carb absorption, and messes up the insulin peak.

Mostly eating around 300-400g of carbs, 160-180g of protein, around 20-40g of fat.
On my non workout days i dont eat as much carbs, only for hgh injections.


I gained 12kg in almost 4 weeks on tren. Lost 3-5% of bf.

Im 184cm,81kg,15-16% bf, just turned 16.

Still havent really noticed face gains, but not a worry.
Its a long term game.

hows sleep

 

[expert]

hows sleep

Honestly great, get 8-9 hours of sleep consistently

 

[Toggle9877]

How your confidence?

 

[expert]

How your confidence?

Better than before, lower inhib, still not the best

I forgot to say that my bidelt increased almost 2 inches lol

 

[mortuary]

I am currently on a mild dose of tren enanthate (200mg), and 400mg of test c
Peptides wise im using:
Hgh: AM/PM injection, 7iu total, 3iu/4iu
Igf1-des localized injection PM: Currently started my des cycle 2-3 days ago, pinning 100mcg on my chin, 5 on/ 2 off. 1h after hgh (pinning on 3 different chin spots)
Ghk-cu: 5mg daily


Ancillaries wise:
Im currently using 12.5mg eod of aromasin
0.25mg of caber each tren injection
1200mg of NAD
4000iu vitamin D
~2000mg potassium split up *all elemental*
500-600mg of magnesium *all elemental*
And some couple bs coloring supps (lycopene 50mg, betacaretone 30mg)
And using 60mg clenbuterol as a mild diuretic, and to burn couple extra calories.


My experience on this:
Pretty much no side effects on the oils part, i mostly had some roid rage and extra irritation , some brain fog.
My nipps are a bit puffy, mostly because of extreme water retention from not titrating up hgh.
My bp,bpm,sugar in blood,etc is on a perfect range.

My lipids,liver,kidney is doing great.

My diet mostly consists in very lean meats as chicken,turkey (high in leucin)
And starches and grains, like rice,white bread,pasta,etc you get it.
I do eat some veggies and fruit at mid day, for the fiber.
Dont eat veggies at am or pm, because it messes up carb absorption, and messes up the insulin peak.

Mostly eating around 300-400g of carbs, 160-180g of protein, around 20-40g of fat.
On my non workout days i dont eat as much carbs, only for hgh injections.


I gained 12kg in almost 4 weeks on tren. Lost 3-5% of bf.

Im 184cm,81kg,15-16% bf, just turned 16.

Still havent really noticed face gains, but not a worry.
Its a long term game.

how many hours per day do you spend trying to get rid of the acne

 

[expert]

how many hours per day do you spend trying to get rid of the acne

atleast 1 for sure, its not that brutal as i started caring of my skin more

 

[mortuary]

atleast 1 for sure, its not that brutal as i started caring of my skin more

what abt chest/back acne

 

[expert]

what abt chest/back acne

its not that bad, using some salicylic acid soap works just fine

 

[magneso821]

I am currently on a mild dose of tren enanthate (200mg), and 400mg of test c
Peptides wise im using:
Hgh: AM/PM injection, 7iu total, 3iu/4iu
Igf1-des localized injection PM: Currently started my des cycle 2-3 days ago, pinning 100mcg on my chin, 5 on/ 2 off. 1h after hgh (pinning on 3 different chin spots)
Ghk-cu: 5mg daily


Ancillaries wise:
Im currently using 12.5mg eod of aromasin
0.25mg of caber each tren injection
1200mg of NAD
4000iu vitamin D
~2000mg potassium split up *all elemental*
500-600mg of magnesium *all elemental*
And some couple bs coloring supps (lycopene 50mg, betacaretone 30mg)
And using 60mg clenbuterol as a mild diuretic, and to burn couple extra calories.


My experience on this:
Pretty much no side effects on the oils part, i mostly had some roid rage and extra irritation , some brain fog.
My nipps are a bit puffy, mostly because of extreme water retention from not titrating up hgh.
My bp,bpm,sugar in blood,etc is on a perfect range.

My lipids,liver,kidney is doing great.

My diet mostly consists in very lean meats as chicken,turkey (high in leucin)
And starches and grains, like rice,white bread,pasta,etc you get it.
I do eat some veggies and fruit at mid day, for the fiber.
Dont eat veggies at am or pm, because it messes up carb absorption, and messes up the insulin peak.

Mostly eating around 300-400g of carbs, 160-180g of protein, around 20-40g of fat.
On my non workout days i dont eat as much carbs, only for hgh injections.


I gained 12kg in almost 4 weeks on tren. Lost 3-5% of bf.

Im 184cm,81kg,15-16% bf, just turned 16.

Still havent really noticed face gains, but not a worry.
Its a long term game.

I gained 12kg in almost 4 weeks on tren. Lost 3-5% of bf.

Im 184cm,81kg,15-16% bf, just turned 16

Still havent really noticed face gains, but not a worry.
Its a long term game.

shortcel

 

[expert]

shortcel

over for me

 

[magneso821]

over for me

fall for the ragebait nigga

 

[expert]

fall for the ragebait nigga

actual over for me man

 

[magneso821]

actual over for me man

not in height no if youre 184cm at 16 or howeverold you now are you will be fine your face might be fucked and your frame might be fucked but your height works

 

[expert]

not in height no if youre 184cm at 16 or howeverold you now are you will be fine your face might be fucked and your frame might be fucked but your height works

my bidelt is actually 52cm, so almost 21 inches
my face is ok, my nose is bulbous, thats it

 

[magneso821]

start bonesmashing

 

[Sadist]

400mg of test c

im on 500 (standard chad dose), mogged

Hgh: AM/PM injection, 7iu total, 3iu/4iu

i once miscalculated peptide dosage and blasted 18ius equivalent for a few days, then 9ius for a few weeks before realizing, mogged

Ghk-cu: 5mg daily

on 2mg cause no difference

4000iu vitamin D

on 50kIU daily, mogged to gandy heaven (vit d is a steroid)

do better son, u mirin???

 

[android]

im on 500 (standard chad dose), mogged

i once miscalculated peptide dosage and blasted 18ius equivalent for a few days, then 9ius for a few weeks before realizing, mogged

on 2mg cause no difference


on 50kIU daily, mogged to gandy heaven (vit d is a steroid)

do better son, u mirin???

No one gaf

 

[Sadist]

No one gaf

didnt ask if anyone gaf nigger

 

[android]

didnt ask if anyone gaf nigger

Im on 9000mg (mogged)
Im on 6500mg (mogged)
Yh sybau

 

[expert]

im on 500 (standard chad dose), mogged

i once miscalculated peptide dosage and blasted 18ius equivalent for a few days, then 9ius for a few weeks before realizing, mogged

on 2mg cause no difference


on 50kIU daily, mogged to gandy heaven (vit d is a steroid)

do better son, u mirin???

lol wheres your tren retard
how much bloat did you experience on 18iu, cuz you have to be completely capping
weird that you arent diabetic by now, whats your fasted glucose levels?

 

[Deusmaximus]

12kg gain in 4 weeks sounds absolutely insane. wtf

 

[Sadist]

lol wheres your tren retard

gonna run some for last 4 weeks of cycle

how much bloat did you experience on 18iu, cuz you have to be completely capping

im on 5ius rn and im still experiencing loads; u dont wanna know how it was on 18

weird that you arent diabetic by now, whats your fasted glucose levels?

7.9 unfasted at the time iirc; i run berb all the time tho
the hunger was making me tweak the fuck out on high doses tho, so u already know it was terrahigh

 

[expert]

12kg gain in 4 weeks sounds absolutely insane. wtf

yeah maybe im a hyperresponder, tren is just crazy

 

[Evgeniy291]

im on 500 (standard chad dose), mogged

300-400mg mogs your bloated 500mg test cycle

 

[expert]

300-400mg mogs your bloated 500mg test cycle

yeah i dont really need much on tren, i could just do 250mg if i wanted to
i just didnt feel like splitting my aromasin in 1/4 so i increased test dosage

 

[Evgeniy291]

yeah i dont really need much on tren, i could just do 250mg if i wanted to
i just didnt feel like splitting my aromasin in 1/4 so i increased test dosage

I actually was taking too high of an ai dose and my estrogen was super low yesterday and the day before I felt like shit
changed it from 0.5mg eod to 0.25mg eod should work amazing

 

[expert]

I actually was taking too high of an ai dose and my estrogen was super low yesterday and the day before I felt like shit
changed it from 0.5mg eod to 0.25mg eod should work amazing

im doing like 12.5mg eod and im doing fine, seems like i aromatize a bit too much

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Hows the benefit of ghk cu on your skin

 

[Evgeniy291]

im doing like 12.5mg eod and im doing fine, seems like i aromatize a bit too much

Are you though, I thought im doing fine but then I realized that on test I should feel amazing and not just alright. Also ignored my cranky joints and couldn't look at my dick because I was on mt2 which made me have a shit ton of random erections

 

[expert]

Are you though, I thought im doing fine but then I realized that on test I should feel amazing and not just alright. Also ignored my cranky joints and couldn't look at my dick because I was on mt2 which made me have a shit ton of random erections

got blood tests, my e2 is roughly at sub40 levels

 

[expert]

Hows the benefit of ghk cu on your skin

honestly couldnt see a change, my collagen is great from the gh and carbs
i stopped it too because my last injection is still hurting after injecting yesterday at morning

 

[Evgeniy291]

got blood tests, my e2 is roughly at sub40 levels

chad, not sure how aromasin works I take arimidex but iirc aromasin half life is 24 hours so u might get more e2 on the second day?

 

[expert]

chad, not sure how aromasin works I take arimidex but iirc aromasin half life is 24 hours so u might get more e2 on the second day?

honestly i have no idea i havent looked into it as much

 

[Deleted member 111567]

do the balls still work big man? also hows your heart?

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

honestly couldnt see a change, my collagen is great from the gh and carbs

Damn brutal. How long? + do carbs improve collagen???
Im borderline keto because im a massive carb hater tbh

i stopped it too because my last injection is still hurting after injecting yesterday at morning

Hurts like a bitch. I split dosing

 

[expert]

do the balls still work big man? also hows your heart?

with the clen and shit i have like 95-100bpm resting, so pretty bad
balls still work, they havent decreased much in size neither, atleast my dih looks bigger

 

[expert]

Damn brutal. How long? + do carbs improve collagen???
Im borderline keto because im a massive carb hater tbh

Hurts like a bitch. I split dosing

yeh carbs give a glow or something like that, its great

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

yeh carbs give a glow or something like that, its great

Huh, alright.

May have to start carbmaxxing again after muh cut

 

[expert]

Huh, alright.

May have to start carbmaxxing again after muh cut

yeah just have some aldesterone blocker in hand, as the bloat from 300-400g of carbs is brutal, even 200g

 

[Evgeniy291]

do the balls still work big man? also hows your heart?

Balls are a meme unless making kids

 

[Evgeniy291]

yeah just have some aldesterone blocker in hand, as the bloat from 300-400g of carbs is brutal, even 200g

Carbs never bloat me just making me feel awesome take 50mg hctz every 3.5 days and you will never get bloated again

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

yeah just have some aldesterone blocker in hand, as the bloat from 300-400g of carbs is brutal, even 200g

Yea. The debloat im having on like 40 a day is borderline euphoric

 

[expert]

Carbs never bloat me just making me feel awesome take 50mg hctz every 3.5 days and you will never get bloated again

i dont really like diuretics, only taking them when i go outside
i ordered some talmisartan or something like that, for the gh bloat
Lets see how it goes

 

[Kaiser]

your libido and decisiveness must be insane on this cycle jfl

mirin tho

 

[Evgeniy291]

i dont really like diuretics, only taking them when i go outside

maybe you will go outside more if u are debloated 24/7

 

[expert]

your libido and decisiveness must be insane on this cycle jfl

mirin tho

my libido was so crazy i spent 60euro in a silicone ass

 

[expert]

maybe you will go outside more if u are debloated 24/7

true
i took like 15mg of toresomide or som liek that, this friday, and it did get rid off some bloat, but still really bloated
alcohol debloated me atleast

 

[asdvek]

Honestly great, get 8-9 hours of sleep consistently

Yeah, how on Trenbolone?

 

[Evgeniy291]

true
i took like 15mg of toresomide or som liek that, this friday, and it did get rid off some bloat, but still really bloated
alcohol debloated me atleast

because its short term diuretic with 2hr half life or smth, while hctz has 15 hour half life and normal dose is 25mg, by taking 50mg you will stay debloated the next day, and potentially the day after that