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The whole porn accessibility thing has completely fried a huge portion of how guys rate and view girls now and it’s not even subtle at this point. You can scroll for five minutes and see the same thing: mid faces with bigger tits and bigger ass getting treated like they’re goddesses while the old skinny standard that used to dominate gets treated like it’s old. I’m not saying every single guy is like this, but the shift is real.
I’m also not writing this to shit on anyone. I just got tired of seeing the same recycled takes and figured I’d lay it out properly for once.
A lot of people still act like constant porn access did not change anything. That is wrong. A big part of the modern male brain never adjusted to having endless high stimulus content available all the time. This is not an insult in anyway. It is just what happens with constant dopamine hits from new images and videos every day. Some of it could be natural preference differences, but I am giving the benefit of the doubt here.
Preference for bigger female body parts even when the face is average has become normal for many guys. The thin ideal that ruled media for decades got pushed down. This happened at the same time free porn became everywhere on phones and computers.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-022-02317-4
You see it all the time. Faces that would have been filtered out under the old standard now get defended if the body has the right size and shape. That is not natural ranking. That is conditioning from years of porn exposure.
Example: Victoria Justice vs Sophie Rain
Yet a lot of kids and teens these days would pick Sophie Rain, JFL.
The gooner brain treats bigger features as higher value. It gets short term reward from the exaggerated body and stops giving the same importance to facial structure that used to come first. There are always reasons given, but most of them come back to years of porn changing what looks high value.
This preference does not get talked about enough. In this community, it has been more mocked as the face is prioritized here. It only keeps getting attention because the modern male gaze made the curvy mid face the new goal.
The gooner takes on attraction are not strong. If you run the claim “mid face with big features beats everything” through basic evolutionary logic, it falls apart. Studies on porn use and preference for larger breasts show clear links. Higher porn and social media use correlates with wanting larger breast sizes. Effects that make familiar women less interesting after seeing porn also show up in experiments. Search data from big sites shows constant high volume for big tits and big ass categories.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1089/cyber.2022.0141
https://www.pornhub.com/insights/breast-searches
The old thin ideal and the current one did not switch places by accident. Media used to push very skinny bodies hard from the 1960s through the early 2000s. Then porn and later social media made exaggerated curves more common in what guys see every day.
The old thin ideal and the current one did not change by accident. Media used to push very skinny bodies hard from the 1960s through the early 2000s.
Then porn and social media made exaggerated curves more common in what guys see every day.
People keep saying the same “body over face” claims. Those preferences come from thousands of hours of porn. You do not suddenly start rating mid faces with big bodies as beautiful.
Research on waist to hip ratio still shows that a lower ratio, around 0.7, is preferred across many groups because it signals fertility and health. But the modern gooner version often ignores the face completely if the body hits the volume numbers. Ass also show up as a more stable preference than breasts in some recent surveys of men.
https://www.psypost.org/new-researc...ole-in-male-physical-attraction-than-breasts/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6563790/
Sydney Sweeney is a clear current example. She has a below average face. Paired with the exact bigger features the gooner brain got used to from porn, the talk about her shows the shift in real time. People focus hard on the body and treat the face as secondary even though facial quality used to be the first thing.
I am not going back and forth on this. Pure facial hierarchy is still the filter that matters outside the screen. Anyone who wants to reply claiming the curves change everything can do so.
For everyone else: stop feeding the pure gooner takes. All it does is reward the behavior that made sexualizing women the main focus. There is nothing serious about dropping face for bigger features. Do not waste time arguing with it.
@subhuman wasian @Morgan @Tesarossa @M1nordragon @Nutsack2000
I’m also not writing this to shit on anyone. I just got tired of seeing the same recycled takes and figured I’d lay it out properly for once.
A lot of people still act like constant porn access did not change anything. That is wrong. A big part of the modern male brain never adjusted to having endless high stimulus content available all the time. This is not an insult in anyway. It is just what happens with constant dopamine hits from new images and videos every day. Some of it could be natural preference differences, but I am giving the benefit of the doubt here.
Preference for bigger female body parts even when the face is average has become normal for many guys. The thin ideal that ruled media for decades got pushed down. This happened at the same time free porn became everywhere on phones and computers.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-022-02317-4
You see it all the time. Faces that would have been filtered out under the old standard now get defended if the body has the right size and shape. That is not natural ranking. That is conditioning from years of porn exposure.
Example: Victoria Justice vs Sophie Rain
Yet a lot of kids and teens these days would pick Sophie Rain, JFL.
The gooner brain treats bigger features as higher value. It gets short term reward from the exaggerated body and stops giving the same importance to facial structure that used to come first. There are always reasons given, but most of them come back to years of porn changing what looks high value.
This preference does not get talked about enough. In this community, it has been more mocked as the face is prioritized here. It only keeps getting attention because the modern male gaze made the curvy mid face the new goal.
The gooner takes on attraction are not strong. If you run the claim “mid face with big features beats everything” through basic evolutionary logic, it falls apart. Studies on porn use and preference for larger breasts show clear links. Higher porn and social media use correlates with wanting larger breast sizes. Effects that make familiar women less interesting after seeing porn also show up in experiments. Search data from big sites shows constant high volume for big tits and big ass categories.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1089/cyber.2022.0141
https://www.pornhub.com/insights/breast-searches
The old thin ideal and the current one did not switch places by accident. Media used to push very skinny bodies hard from the 1960s through the early 2000s. Then porn and later social media made exaggerated curves more common in what guys see every day.
The old thin ideal and the current one did not change by accident. Media used to push very skinny bodies hard from the 1960s through the early 2000s.
Then porn and social media made exaggerated curves more common in what guys see every day.
People keep saying the same “body over face” claims. Those preferences come from thousands of hours of porn. You do not suddenly start rating mid faces with big bodies as beautiful.
Research on waist to hip ratio still shows that a lower ratio, around 0.7, is preferred across many groups because it signals fertility and health. But the modern gooner version often ignores the face completely if the body hits the volume numbers. Ass also show up as a more stable preference than breasts in some recent surveys of men.
https://www.psypost.org/new-researc...ole-in-male-physical-attraction-than-breasts/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6563790/
Sydney Sweeney is a clear current example. She has a below average face. Paired with the exact bigger features the gooner brain got used to from porn, the talk about her shows the shift in real time. People focus hard on the body and treat the face as secondary even though facial quality used to be the first thing.
I am not going back and forth on this. Pure facial hierarchy is still the filter that matters outside the screen. Anyone who wants to reply claiming the curves change everything can do so.
For everyone else: stop feeding the pure gooner takes. All it does is reward the behavior that made sexualizing women the main focus. There is nothing serious about dropping face for bigger features. Do not waste time arguing with it.
@subhuman wasian @Morgan @Tesarossa @M1nordragon @Nutsack2000
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