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The evisceration of yesterday got quite a bit of traction, but it was expected, since Verdam has been a very polarizing figure in the community since his initial registration date back in December (although he had an account before then, which is irrelevant to now.)
I was aware of this evisceration being made a week or two before it was initially posted, having had talked to @afroheadluke about it and hearing his perspective on it. When he asked me what I thought, I said that I operated under something most courts in the West and especially the United States operate under, which is “guilty beyond any reasonable doubt.”
Since I had direct contact with both sides of the spectrum, Verdam himself had told me directly that he was not a pedophile and neither were any of his friends (across .org DMs, I haven’t talked to Verdam on discord past him initially inviting me to 2 discord servers owned by Kira, being ABO and LKS.) Since Verdam had directly told me he wasn’t a pedophile, and there was no direct proof of him being one, I decided that I wasn’t going to jump the gun on anything. No point ruining my associations with someone over something that could be fake (both Verdam and Orka had been accused of being pedophiles, cucks, and homosexuals countless times, nothing ever came of it.)
One thing afroheadluke can confirm me saying directly is that “if I was to be aware of Verdam being a pedophile, I’d cut ties with him immediately.”
Yesterday after the evisceration was posted and I initially skimmed through it, I had to instinctively post a slop thread to see what people thought, and received not a singular positive reply regarding Verdam. I did my own research for a bit (being unaware of Verdam himself admitting to fault) and came to the conclusion a few hours later that Verdam was in fact, guilty without any reasonable doubt of innocence (this conclusion was heavily influenced by Verdam himself admitting to everything which I found out a while after I initially read the evisceration.)
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So why didn’t I jump the gun? Because I’m not an idiot. I’m not going to cut ties and ruin my relationship with anyone over baseless allegations, which I’ve experienced being put against my friends countless times. For an example, Orka being a cuck is a widely known allegation against him, yet I didn’t accuse him of it and he proved to me personally that everything accused of him was false. If I had jumped the gun, I would’ve ruined my relationship with a frankly, nice and incredibly relaxed member that has contributed to a major positive shift in the community.
While Verdam hasn’t exactly contributed to a positive shift (or contributed anything for that matter,) he was still very nice to me and I reciprocated that kindness right back. I will never betray or antagonize someone over allegations, as they are rampant and ruin lives, which I’ve seen countless times.
Also it’s important to mention that taking in every piece of information you read as objective fact is frankly, a low iq, primitive trait expressed mainly by Neanderthals and cavemen, not civilized human beings.
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So why didn’t I associate myself with the majority of the anti - Verdam movement after finding out the truth?
Because they’re for the most part, abused dogs. None of them actually care for the allegations or what he’s done, they’re just seething incels who got mad over being bullied on an Internet forum (Ahmed88 and shedontluv-u for example, who are majorly hated across the forum.) I simply didn’t want to associate myself with people who weren’t morally aligned correctly. A lot of these people would actually have preferred Verdam to be a pedophile so he’d be banned.
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And now we get to Kira, who is a total hypocrite. Kira’s entire stance during the evisceration is that he was some sort of “top secret spy” who was collecting information on Verdam for this big finale. The truth is that Kira is an insecure, attention seeking child who would’ve protected Verdam being a pedophile if Verdam and his entire group didn’t turn him into .org’s largest pissbucket. Kira himself didn’t even write the evisceration or collect any major parts of it, it was mostly mcmentalonthemic and afroheadluke, with some smaller contributions by Orka and some other members.
Do you seriously think that someone who speaks, acts, and behaves like this after posting something he didn’t even come up with himself? This guy clearly just wanted the attention:
Tale old as time, underdog beats up the big guy. If Kira really cared about the right thing, he would’ve done this to FaceandBBC or asdvek, or countless other users as well, but no, he targeted the most minor out of all of them because he was personally biased strongly against them.
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Now of course, I can’t really criticize Kira too much. He did do a good deed, even if it wasn’t from the right place. Verdam has admitted everything and I am frankly disgusted by it. Thankfully he took the initiative and cut ties with me first, which made everything a lot easier.
Kira if you read this, I don’t hate you, I just think you didn’t do what you did out of the right place, I hope you eventually come to hold the moral stance that you claim to have.
However, just because Verdam is wrong, does not mean I will align myself with any group or people. That is the correct position to maintain.
To end this off, I will again preface that the only reason I’m speaking out about this or posting anything at all, is simply because I can’t allow myself to have a reputation here as a robot who pumps out threads. I must force involve myself in the community, even though I don’t really give a shit about what goes on. To do maintain the ideal image, I must be seen as human. Past my obligations, I don’t care what anyone does as long as they aren’t hurting themselves or others. Any criticism of this ideology is meaningless to me.
Have a nice day.
@mcmentalonthemic @Orka @Petsmart @Jgns
I was aware of this evisceration being made a week or two before it was initially posted, having had talked to @afroheadluke about it and hearing his perspective on it. When he asked me what I thought, I said that I operated under something most courts in the West and especially the United States operate under, which is “guilty beyond any reasonable doubt.”
Since I had direct contact with both sides of the spectrum, Verdam himself had told me directly that he was not a pedophile and neither were any of his friends (across .org DMs, I haven’t talked to Verdam on discord past him initially inviting me to 2 discord servers owned by Kira, being ABO and LKS.) Since Verdam had directly told me he wasn’t a pedophile, and there was no direct proof of him being one, I decided that I wasn’t going to jump the gun on anything. No point ruining my associations with someone over something that could be fake (both Verdam and Orka had been accused of being pedophiles, cucks, and homosexuals countless times, nothing ever came of it.)
One thing afroheadluke can confirm me saying directly is that “if I was to be aware of Verdam being a pedophile, I’d cut ties with him immediately.”
Yesterday after the evisceration was posted and I initially skimmed through it, I had to instinctively post a slop thread to see what people thought, and received not a singular positive reply regarding Verdam. I did my own research for a bit (being unaware of Verdam himself admitting to fault) and came to the conclusion a few hours later that Verdam was in fact, guilty without any reasonable doubt of innocence (this conclusion was heavily influenced by Verdam himself admitting to everything which I found out a while after I initially read the evisceration.)
_____
So why didn’t I jump the gun? Because I’m not an idiot. I’m not going to cut ties and ruin my relationship with anyone over baseless allegations, which I’ve experienced being put against my friends countless times. For an example, Orka being a cuck is a widely known allegation against him, yet I didn’t accuse him of it and he proved to me personally that everything accused of him was false. If I had jumped the gun, I would’ve ruined my relationship with a frankly, nice and incredibly relaxed member that has contributed to a major positive shift in the community.
While Verdam hasn’t exactly contributed to a positive shift (or contributed anything for that matter,) he was still very nice to me and I reciprocated that kindness right back. I will never betray or antagonize someone over allegations, as they are rampant and ruin lives, which I’ve seen countless times.
Also it’s important to mention that taking in every piece of information you read as objective fact is frankly, a low iq, primitive trait expressed mainly by Neanderthals and cavemen, not civilized human beings.
_______
So why didn’t I associate myself with the majority of the anti - Verdam movement after finding out the truth?
Because they’re for the most part, abused dogs. None of them actually care for the allegations or what he’s done, they’re just seething incels who got mad over being bullied on an Internet forum (Ahmed88 and shedontluv-u for example, who are majorly hated across the forum.) I simply didn’t want to associate myself with people who weren’t morally aligned correctly. A lot of these people would actually have preferred Verdam to be a pedophile so he’d be banned.
_______
And now we get to Kira, who is a total hypocrite. Kira’s entire stance during the evisceration is that he was some sort of “top secret spy” who was collecting information on Verdam for this big finale. The truth is that Kira is an insecure, attention seeking child who would’ve protected Verdam being a pedophile if Verdam and his entire group didn’t turn him into .org’s largest pissbucket. Kira himself didn’t even write the evisceration or collect any major parts of it, it was mostly mcmentalonthemic and afroheadluke, with some smaller contributions by Orka and some other members.
Do you seriously think that someone who speaks, acts, and behaves like this after posting something he didn’t even come up with himself? This guy clearly just wanted the attention:
Tale old as time, underdog beats up the big guy. If Kira really cared about the right thing, he would’ve done this to FaceandBBC or asdvek, or countless other users as well, but no, he targeted the most minor out of all of them because he was personally biased strongly against them.
_____
Now of course, I can’t really criticize Kira too much. He did do a good deed, even if it wasn’t from the right place. Verdam has admitted everything and I am frankly disgusted by it. Thankfully he took the initiative and cut ties with me first, which made everything a lot easier.
Kira if you read this, I don’t hate you, I just think you didn’t do what you did out of the right place, I hope you eventually come to hold the moral stance that you claim to have.
However, just because Verdam is wrong, does not mean I will align myself with any group or people. That is the correct position to maintain.
To end this off, I will again preface that the only reason I’m speaking out about this or posting anything at all, is simply because I can’t allow myself to have a reputation here as a robot who pumps out threads. I must force involve myself in the community, even though I don’t really give a shit about what goes on. To do maintain the ideal image, I must be seen as human. Past my obligations, I don’t care what anyone does as long as they aren’t hurting themselves or others. Any criticism of this ideology is meaningless to me.
Have a nice day.
@mcmentalonthemic @Orka @Petsmart @Jgns
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