anavar and bone age

[1xc6]

saw anavar can 2x the growth velocity but after 6 months its gone and decreased predicted adult height.
ugh how does this work? sure its speeding up bone age but u will also grow while it speeds up, nopt sure how it would decrease final height.
and kinda braindead whats its avtual mechanic of it "speeding up bone age", as other dht derivatives like anavar dont seem to have this property, only var specifically, why?

 

[judif3r]

it has a unique AR and IGF-1 interaction, pushing both linear growth and bone age maturation at the same time. Other DHT-based steroids (like Winstrol) don’t hit growth plates the same way, var seems to have a GH/IGF-1 synergy effect that speeds up closure too much.

 

[puffer234234]

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[Cyrus]

saw anavar can 2x the growth velocity but after 6 months its gone and decreased predicted adult height.
ugh how does this work? sure its speeding up bone age but u will also grow while it speeds up, nopt sure how it would decrease final height.
and kinda braindead whats its avtual mechanic of it "speeding up bone age", as other dht derivatives like anavar dont seem to have this property, only var specifically, why?

i dont believe it tbh
they always use very little dosages but link ur studies

 

[1xc6]

i dont believe it tbh
they always use very little dosages but link ur studies

u dont believe what. that it speeds up bone age or that it doesnt.

 

[Cyrus]

u dont believe what. that it speeds up bone age or that it doesnt.

i dont think it does
also dont u see what i said?

they always use very little dosages but link ur studies

 

[1xc6]

it has a unique AR and IGF-1 interaction, pushing both linear growth and bone age maturation at the same time. Other DHT-based steroids (like Winstrol) don’t hit growth plates the same way, var seems to have a GH/IGF-1 synergy effect that speeds up closure too much.

source of this informtation?

 

[judif3r]

source of this informtation?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2584350/ and https://karger.com/hrp/article-abst...edirectedFrom=fulltext&utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

[1xc6]

i dont think it does
also dont u see what i said?

Effect of oxandrolone therapy on adult height in Turner syndrome patients treated with growth hormone: a meta-analysis - PMC

Turner syndrome is a chromosomal abnormality in which there is complete or partial absence of the X chromosome. Turner syndrome effects 1 in every 2000 live births. Short stature is a cardinal feature of Turner Syndrome and the standard treatment is ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

this studies show the anavar itself was actually more effective than the gh used beforehand

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-abstract/69/6/1109/2651956?utm_source=chatgpt.com&login=false

this one highlights the icnreased growth velocity without avtually affecting the final adult height. so tbh i highly doubt it affectrs predicted height, speds up bone age sure but u would grow at the same time too.

if anything the one small study lots of ppl say that it decreases final predicted heigth was probs a outlier and it wasnt very clear either

 

[1xc6]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2584350/ and https://karger.com/hrp/article-abst...edirectedFrom=fulltext&utm_source=chatgpt.com

thanks.

u think this unique igf1 interaction it has is negative or positive overall?

 

[judif3r]

thanks.

u think this unique igf1 interaction it has is negative or positive overall?

depends on the goal, short term it's alright but long term might be problematic

 

[1xc6]

depends on the goal, short term it's alright but long term might be problematic

i mean in my situation (16 yrs old, - my bone age is 14 yrs old)
maybe just a short 8 week cycle var

 

[judif3r]

i mean in my situation (16 yrs old, - my bone age is 14 yrs old)
maybe just a short 8 week cycle var

Taking any PEDs at that age is stupid. Wait until you're 19 minimum. Also PEDs on underage teens has a lot of bad effects on the brain so just wait a bit.

 

[1xc6]

Taking any PEDs at that age is stupid. Wait until you're 19 minimum. Also PEDs on underage teens has a lot of bad effects on the brain so just wait a bit.

yeah thats very true. going to take hgh n stuff.

i do know theres retarted risks but low dose var for a few weeks and see how it goes, dimorphism gaisn whatever cope or not im probs gonna try it.

 

[TritonMTN]

Taking any PEDs at that age is stupid. Wait until you're 19 minimum. Also PEDs on underage teens has a lot of bad effects on the brain so just wait a bit.

what about mk and cjc

 

[1xc6]

what about mk and cjc

take hgh if u can afford it.
if u cant afford it u can try peptides
or mk

hgh will always be the best

 

[Cyrus]

it has a unique AR and IGF-1 interaction, pushing both linear growth and bone age maturation at the same time. Other DHT-based steroids (like Winstrol) don’t hit growth plates the same way, var seems to have a GH/IGF-1 synergy effect that speeds up closure too much.

source of this informtation?

"Ox increased HV without altering bone maturation or pubertal progression"
@judif3r thoughts? this was in the study u linked

 

[1xc6]

"Ox increased HV without altering bone maturation or pubertal progression"
@judif3r thoughts? this was in the study u linked

which study, or was it the one i sent.

yeah theres lots of mixed thoughts, not clear data. i mean to me i dont think it fucks up predicted final height

 

[Cyrus]

which study, or was it the one i sent.

yeah theres lots of mixed thoughts, not clear data. i mean to me i dont think it fucks up predicted final height

it was this one https://karger.com/hrp/article-abst...edirectedFrom=fulltext&utm_source=chatgpt.com

yeah i think its a net benefit for height

both of the studies u sent are the same
they show that the low dose (0.12mg/kg) anavar group of boys had increased PAH but the high dose (0.22mg/kg) didnt
im personally gonna do 5mg AM and PM

 

[1xc6]

it was this one https://karger.com/hrp/article-abst...edirectedFrom=fulltext&utm_source=chatgpt.com

yeah i think its a net benefit for height

both of the studies u sent are the same
they show that the low dose (0.12mg/kg) anavar group of boys had increased PAH but the high dose (0.22mg/kg) didnt
im personally gonna do 5mg AM and PM

fuck bro the doeses are good too know .

u recommend i do like 5mg morning + night too ?

lol was gonna do 25mg but jus realized my bw x 0.12mg/kg is not near that at all . My pills are 25mg so tho so not sure how im meant to cut it into 5mg

 

[Cyrus]

fuck bro the doeses are good too know .

u recommend i do like 5mg morning + night too ?

lol was gonna do 25mg but jus realized my bw x 0.12mg/kg is not near that at all . My pills are 25mg so tho so not sure how im meant to cut it into 5mg

yeah i told u before 25 is too much

 

[1xc6]

yeah i told u before 25 is too much

yeah so 6.25mg 2x a day . Is that a bit too much or fine .

 

[shebdbbd]

fuck bro the doeses are good too know .

u recommend i do like 5mg morning + night too ?

lol was gonna do 25mg but jus realized my bw x 0.12mg/kg is not near that at all . My pills are 25mg so tho so not sure how im meant to cut it into 5mg

does anavar affect facial bones too??

 

[1xc6]

does anavar affect facial bones too??

maybe from the sped up bone age and growth velocty. im currently on day 4 of var

 

[shredded4summer]

it has a unique AR and IGF-1 interaction, pushing both linear growth and bone age maturation at the same time. Other DHT-based steroids (like Winstrol) don’t hit growth plates the same way, var seems to have a GH/IGF-1 synergy effect that speeds up closure too much.

Where did you get the info that Winstrol doesn’t close growth plates

 

[judif3r]

Where did you get the info that Winstrol doesn’t close growth plates

I said don't hit growth plates. Reread it bro

 

[shredded4summer]

I said don't hit growth plates. Reread it bro

wdym "hit"??

 

[judif3r]

wdym "hit"??

affect...

 

[shebdbbd]

maybe from the sped up bone age and growth velocty. im currently on day 4 of vara

maybe from the sped up bone age and growth velocty. im currently on day 4 of var

am 16.5 how much height can i gain compared to hgh and how much height can i gain if i start taking hgh