Another Clav.org diss [BroScienceLife]

[White_Bwoi]

 

[5.5psl]

Too much now honestly I remember looksmaxxing being soo soo niche back in 2021-22 now it feels like if you don't looksmax you are already behind

 

[zemult]

Lol yeah, boomer youtubers are jumping him atm. The ones with absolutely no perception of the modern dating world and are pushing muh personality in 2025, it's cagefuel tbh

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Niggas ripping him apart lmao even Greg douchette

 

[zemult]

Niggas ripping him apart lmao even Greg douchette

Unironically I don't even like Clavicular but I wish he was unbanned from YT just so he could put these bluepilled boomers in their place JFL

Any person from this forum could tear their out of touch arguments apart

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Unironically I don't even like Clavicular but I wish he was unbanned from YT just so he could put these bluepilled boomers in their place JFL

Any person from this forum could tear their out of touch arguments apart

I do agree clav takes shit out of proportion he’s 6’2 and tryna get ll to be 6’6 he’s also gonna blow 50k on surgery that won’t get him to chad. He thinks you need to be 6’3 and cl to pull women when anything above mid htn is fine and if 6 foot+

 

[White_Bwoi]

Can't be surprised that some of the more extreme/dangerous stuff he preach is enraging to people / ofcourse they're also capitalizing on the beef, water...

While I can't stand goatis, this is more savage - destroying nokturnalKent:

 

[zemult]

I do agree clav takes shit out of proportion he’s 6’2 and tryna get ll to be 6’6 he’s also gonna blow 50k on surgery that won’t get him to chad. He thinks you need to be 6’3 and cl to pull women when anything above mid htn is fine and if 6 foot+

Water. Clavicular is just saying ragebaiting to gain attention (and it's working). He was supposed to get jaw surgery back in June and I doubt he's ever actually getting LL. The meth is also retarded but he's mentioned that it's doctor-prescribed and he's just ragebaiting by saying "crystal meth".

I don't really care that they go after Clavicular. The problem is that most of these YouTubers are using Clavicular to misrepresent his real arguments and the blackpill. They feed into this whole idea that looks only matter so much, but muh personality is what actually matters. They also constantly push falsehoods like surgery is going to kill you, pointing to Clavicular's double jaw surgery (when mortality rate is literally <0.0025%). And that steroids are so dangerous lol it's cagefuel.

The video in OP literally talks about Clavicular saying normies consider the average as 7/10, and they misrepresented his argument by saying "well women clearly think of average men as better looking than these insane blackpillers, maybe they're more attractive than they think" which feeds into the whole body dysmorphia BS. They also misrepresent the BP community by falsely acting like the entire community is saying that only looks matter, when everyone on here is aware about how sociability/being "NT" impacts the results as well.

All in all, there is some good in misrepresenting the blackpill community I suppose. It means less normies are going to be going over here and will be more cautious because they believe in all this boomer BS JFL

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Water. Clavicular is just saying ragebaiting to gain attention (and it's working). He was supposed to get jaw surgery back in June and I doubt he's ever actually getting LL. The meth is also retarded but he's mentioned that it's doctor-prescribed and he's just ragebaiting by saying "crystal meth".

I don't really care that they go after Clavicular. The problem is that most of these YouTubers are using Clavicular to misrepresent his real arguments and the blackpill. They feed into this whole idea that looks only matter so much, but muh personality is what actually matters. They also constantly push falsehoods like surgery is going to kill you, pointing to Clavicular's double jaw surgery (when mortality rate is literally <0.0025%). And that steroids are so dangerous lol it's cagefuel.

The video in OP literally talks about Clavicular saying normies consider the average as 7/10, and they misrepresented his argument by saying "well women clearly think of average men as better looking than these insane blackpillers, maybe they're more attractive than they think" which feeds into the whole body dysmorphia BS. They also misrepresent the BP community by falsely acting like the entire community is saying that only looks matter, when everyone on here is aware about how sociability/being "NT" impacts the results as well.

All in all, there is some good in misrepresenting the blackpill community I suppose. It means less normies are going to be going over here and will be more cautious because they believe in all this boomer BS JFL

I ain’t reading all this gng mb

 

[zemult]

I ain’t reading all this gng mb

You have 21K posts so I assumed you would, but

TLDR: Boomers use Clavicular's ragebaiting to discredit the blackpill ideology and its community, because their idea of dating comes from the pre-internet era.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

You have 21K posts so I assumed you would, but

Yeah posts not reads lmao.

TLDR: Boomers use Clavicular's ragebaiting to discredit the blackpill ideology and its community, because their idea of dating comes from the pre-internet era.

Water, they be doing to much and tbh 99% of being ppl who claim to be bp arnt actually bp lol more red pilled tbh. Traditional Bp is accepting u won’t ascend and roping or a sad life

 

[The Centipede]

You have 21K posts so I assumed you would, but

TLDR: Boomers use Clavicular's ragebaiting to discredit the blackpill ideology and its community, because their idea of dating comes from the pre-internet era.

JFL if you have any trouble attracting women

 

[zemult]

Yeah posts not reads lmao.

Still spend enough time on here boyo, but dw I was just fucking with you I don't give a fuck lol

Water, they be doing to much and tbh 99% of being ppl who claim to be bp arnt actually bp lol more red pilled tbh. Traditional Bp is accepting u won’t ascend and roping or a sad life

Traditional BP is more than just looks matter, it's the idea of genetic determinism in all areas of life.

Even the act of wanting to grind can be argued to be inherited. The ceiling of which you can ascend is also naturally going to be limited by your luck of the draw as well.

 

[Idontknow-]

Too much now honestly I remember looksmaxxing being soo soo niche back in 2021-22 now it feels like if you don't looksmax you are already behind

Yeah I remember the times

 

[Idontknow-]

Water. Clavicular is just saying ragebaiting to gain attention (and it's working). He was supposed to get jaw surgery back in June and I doubt he's ever actually getting LL. The meth is also retarded but he's mentioned that it's doctor-prescribed and he's just ragebaiting by saying "crystal meth".

I don't really care that they go after Clavicular. The problem is that most of these YouTubers are using Clavicular to misrepresent his real arguments and the blackpill. They feed into this whole idea that looks only matter so much, but muh personality is what actually matters. They also constantly push falsehoods like surgery is going to kill you, pointing to Clavicular's double jaw surgery (when mortality rate is literally <0.0025%). And that steroids are so dangerous lol it's cagefuel.

The video in OP literally talks about Clavicular saying normies consider the average as 7/10, and they misrepresented his argument by saying "well women clearly think of average men as better looking than these insane blackpillers, maybe they're more attractive than they think" which feeds into the whole body dysmorphia BS. They also misrepresent the BP community by falsely acting like the entire community is saying that only looks matter, when everyone on here is aware about how sociability/being "NT" impacts the results as well.

All in all, there is some good in misrepresenting the blackpill community I suppose. It means less normies are going to be going over here and will be more cautious because they believe in all this boomer BS JFL

Its not that serious bro

 

[zemult]

JFL if you have any trouble attracting women

Least obvious ragebait. Try better.

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

Still spend enough time on here boyo, but dw I was just fucking with you I don't give a fuck lol


Traditional BP is more than just looks matter, it's the idea of genetic determinism in all areas of life.

Even the act of wanting to grind can be argued to be inherited. The ceiling of which you can ascend is also naturally going to be limited by your luck of the draw as well.

Yeah this water tbh I feel like real black pill niggas on this forum is @Klasik616 he ldar and gave up pretty much. Most niggas here are just in between redpill and bp. Bc we know abt genetic limitations and hypergamy but we still do everything we can to improve

 

[zemult]

Its not that serious bro

Perhaps, maybe the boomers deterring gen Z away from the blackpill is for the best. Means less users from TikTok coming on here.

 

[Idontknow-]

Perhaps, maybe the boomers deterring gen Z away from the blackpill is for the best. Means less users from TikTok coming on here.

Well I hope so.

 

[zemult]

Yeah this water tbh I feel like real black pill niggas on this forum is @Klasik616 he ldar and gave up pretty much. Most niggas here are just in between redpill and bp. Bc we know abt genetic limitations and hypergamy but we still do everything we can to improve

You should always move forward because you never know truly what's set in stone for you, unless you're blatantly deformed or giga-manlet.

However, the thing with Klasik is that life meant for him to give up. There is no such thing as free will. He has very low conscientiousness, which is just one example.

 

[The Centipede]

Least obvious ragebait. Try better.

Wasn’t bait sir, but WTF. Why’s everyone here so concerned about what women think?

Just fuck them, fuck them off and say no more about it

 

[TiktokUser]

The problem is that most of these YouTubers are using Clavicular to misrepresent his real arguments and the blackpill.

somewhat. They're misrepresenting his arguments, but clavicular doesn’t claim that only looks matter, just that they’re one of the most important criteria. He also doesn't necessary represent the blackpill, but rather just lookism. He also doesn’t necessarily represent the full blackpill, but more so lookism, which is just a subcategory of it.

But him being the face of the "blackpill" is honestly the best case scenario, because without him they’d scapegoat and strawman it even more. He already defended his position against Greg Doucette pretty well.

I also made a thread on this, before all of these influencers started calling him out

Clavicular is the best person to represent lookism

Whether you like it or not, lookism is mainstream now. And if it didn’t have someone articulate and knowledgeable representing it, it would endlessly be strawmanned into something it isn’t, exactly what happened with the rise of the redpill. People also need to stop blaming him for...

looksmax.org

 

[Tigermoggerlol]

You should always move forward because you never know truly what's set in stone for you, unless you're blatantly deformed or giga-manlet.

However, the thing with Klasik is that life meant for him to give up. There is no such thing as free will. He has very low conscientiousness, which is just one example.

He just thinks it’s over for him bc he’s Latino and 5’9. But yeah if your not capped ltn and below 5’4 u should still try and get some surgeries to look better and improve your body

 

[TiktokUser]

You should always move forward because you never know truly what's set in stone for you, unless you're blatantly deformed or giga-manlet.

However, the thing with Klasik is that life meant for him to give up. There is no such thing as free will. He has very low conscientiousness, which is just one example.

The ideology of the blackpill never once says to give up. @Tigermoggerlol just doesn't understand the blackpill

 

[Klasik616]

You should always move forward because you never know truly what's set in stone for you, unless you're blatantly deformed or giga-manlet.

However, the thing with Klasik is that life meant for him to give up. There is no such thing as free will. He has very low conscientiousness, which is just one example.

Mind and reality are the same thing
When your mind tells you there's no way of getting a better life
Is life telling your mind how things are for you
So if you actually thought about every possibility of escaping bp and none worked
Then you should just give up

 

[zemult]

He just thinks it’s over for him bc he’s Latino and 5’9. But yeah if your not capped ltn and below 5’4 u should still try and get some surgeries to look better and improve your body

Yes, and his life was designed to think that way. Why do you think you haven't been able to talk him out of it?

somewhat. They're misrepresenting his arguments, but clavicular doesn’t claim that only looks matter, just that they’re one of the most important criteria. He also doesn't necessary represent the blackpill, but rather just lookism. He also doesn’t necessarily represent the full blackpill, but more so lookism, which is just a subcategory of it.

But him being the face of the "blackpill" is honestly the best case scenario, because without him they’d scapegoat and strawman it even more. He already defended his position against Greg Doucette pretty well.

I also made a thread on this, before all of these influencers started calling him out

Clavicular is the best person to represent lookism

Whether you like it or not, lookism is mainstream now. And if it didn’t have someone articulate and knowledgeable representing it, it would endlessly be strawmanned into something it isn’t, exactly what happened with the rise of the redpill. People also need to stop blaming him for...

looksmax.org

Yes I'm fully aware Clavicular never says only looks matter, that's one of the reasons why I say they misrepresent his arguments.

Yeah it's also more about lookism, but it's a subset of the BP.

 

[Klasik616]

Yeah this water tbh I feel like real black pill niggas on this forum is @Klasik616 he ldar and gave up pretty much. Most niggas here are just in between redpill and bp. Bc we know abt genetic limitations and hypergamy but we still do everything we can to improve

BP is about accepting how life is
When I was a kid I struggled to make friends and be around women
Things have never changed
When I moved schools I tried to escape this "curse"
No matter where I was, I was still struggling
So nowadays I don't approach women anymore because I already know the answer
Every time I've tried, I never made a progress