antinatalism philosophy is the TRUTH

[134applesauce456]

Being born is a tragedy. You just don't realize it because you were trained to believe that living is a privilege. You never asked to be here. No one did. One day, two adults, confused, tired, or simply following the script, decided that creating another life sounded like a good idea. And many times, that idea didn't even exist. Many people weren't planned. They were simply the result of pleasure, of a moment, of instinct. That's how you appeared. Not because the world needed you, but because two people wanted to feel good for a few minutes.

Without asking you anything, they threw you into a world that is violent, unfair, unpredictable, and today you're expected to smile, call this a miracle, and one day do the same thing to someone equally innocent. But what if everything you learned is wrong? What if bringing someone into the world is not an act of love, but a disguised act of brutality?


There is nothing more manipulative than the romanticization of life. You are born, you cry, you learn how to walk, you go to school, you get bullied, you learn the world is unfair, you work, you get sick, you bury the people you love, and then society still tells you, "Have a child. That will give your life meaning." And so the cycle continues, not because people are evil, but because no one has the courage to admit the truth. Birth isn't a blessing, it's a sentence.


That sounds shocking but the South African philosopher David Benitar says the greatest gift you can give someone is simply to never bring them into existence. In his book better never to have been he argues that suffering is guaranteed while pleasure is optional. Someone who never existed doesn't miss life. Only those who exist feel pain.

You need to ask yourself honestly, do you really want children or are you just trying to fill a void you don't understand? Are you trying to fix your childhood inside another person? The truth is painful. Many people have children out of fear of loneliness, out of boredom, out of pressure from others, and later regret it, but can't say a word because saying, "I regret having a child," instantly makes you a monster.

 

[green_fn_2033]

100% agree. unless youre rich enough to provide a kid with everything they could ever want, it is a selfish thing to have kids. being born is truly a curse for anyone who is not rich and physically healthy.

 

[Goy Leray]

Being born is a tragedy. You just don't realize it because you were trained to believe that living is a privilege. You never asked to be here. No one did. One day, two adults, confused, tired, or simply following the script, decided that creating another life sounded like a good idea. And many times, that idea didn't even exist. Many people weren't planned. They were simply the result of pleasure, of a moment, of instinct. That's how you appeared. Not because the world needed you, but because two people wanted to feel good for a few minutes.

Without asking you anything, they threw you into a world that is violent, unfair, unpredictable, and today you're expected to smile, call this a miracle, and one day do the same thing to someone equally innocent. But what if everything you learned is wrong? What if bringing someone into the world is not an act of love, but a disguised act of brutality?


There is nothing more manipulative than the romanticization of life. You are born, you cry, you learn how to walk, you go to school, you get bullied, you learn the world is unfair, you work, you get sick, you bury the people you love, and then society still tells you, "Have a child. That will give your life meaning." And so the cycle continues, not because people are evil, but because no one has the courage to admit the truth. Birth isn't a blessing, it's a sentence.


That sounds shocking but the South African philosopher David Benitar says the greatest gift you can give someone is simply to never bring them into existence. In his book better never to have been he argues that suffering is guaranteed while pleasure is optional. Someone who never existed doesn't miss life. Only those who exist feel pain.

You need to ask yourself honestly, do you really want children or are you just trying to fill a void you don't understand? Are you trying to fix your childhood inside another person? The truth is painful. Many people have children out of fear of loneliness, out of boredom, out of pressure from others, and later regret it, but can't say a word because saying, "I regret having a child," instantly makes you a monster.

Type of shi u post after being lonely for a day

 

[true_subhuman_here]

Being born is a tragedy. You just don't realize it because you were trained to believe that living is a privilege. You never asked to be here. No one did. One day, two adults, confused, tired, or simply following the script, decided that creating another life sounded like a good idea. And many times, that idea didn't even exist. Many people weren't planned. They were simply the result of pleasure, of a moment, of instinct. That's how you appeared. Not because the world needed you, but because two people wanted to feel good for a few minutes.

Without asking you anything, they threw you into a world that is violent, unfair, unpredictable, and today you're expected to smile, call this a miracle, and one day do the same thing to someone equally innocent. But what if everything you learned is wrong? What if bringing someone into the world is not an act of love, but a disguised act of brutality?


There is nothing more manipulative than the romanticization of life. You are born, you cry, you learn how to walk, you go to school, you get bullied, you learn the world is unfair, you work, you get sick, you bury the people you love, and then society still tells you, "Have a child. That will give your life meaning." And so the cycle continues, not because people are evil, but because no one has the courage to admit the truth. Birth isn't a blessing, it's a sentence.


That sounds shocking but the South African philosopher David Benitar says the greatest gift you can give someone is simply to never bring them into existence. In his book better never to have been he argues that suffering is guaranteed while pleasure is optional. Someone who never existed doesn't miss life. Only those who exist feel pain.

You need to ask yourself honestly, do you really want children or are you just trying to fill a void you don't understand? Are you trying to fix your childhood inside another person? The truth is painful. Many people have children out of fear of loneliness, out of boredom, out of pressure from others, and later regret it, but can't say a word because saying, "I regret having a child," instantly makes you a monster.

dnr however I agree with antinatalism philosophy. Having a kid is a selfish act especially if you are not going to be able to correctly provide food and education for the kid, if you have shitty genetics and mental illnesses (last 2 were obviously not based on personal exp)

 

[hye732]

Being born is a tragedy. You just don't realize it because you were trained to believe that living is a privilege. You never asked to be here. No one did. One day, two adults, confused, tired, or simply following the script, decided that creating another life sounded like a good idea. And many times, that idea didn't even exist. Many people weren't planned. They were simply the result of pleasure, of a moment, of instinct. That's how you appeared. Not because the world needed you, but because two people wanted to feel good for a few minutes.

Without asking you anything, they threw you into a world that is violent, unfair, unpredictable, and today you're expected to smile, call this a miracle, and one day do the same thing to someone equally innocent. But what if everything you learned is wrong? What if bringing someone into the world is not an act of love, but a disguised act of brutality?


There is nothing more manipulative than the romanticization of life. You are born, you cry, you learn how to walk, you go to school, you get bullied, you learn the world is unfair, you work, you get sick, you bury the people you love, and then society still tells you, "Have a child. That will give your life meaning." And so the cycle continues, not because people are evil, but because no one has the courage to admit the truth. Birth isn't a blessing, it's a sentence.


That sounds shocking but the South African philosopher David Benitar says the greatest gift you can give someone is simply to never bring them into existence. In his book better never to have been he argues that suffering is guaranteed while pleasure is optional. Someone who never existed doesn't miss life. Only those who exist feel pain.

You need to ask yourself honestly, do you really want children or are you just trying to fill a void you don't understand? Are you trying to fix your childhood inside another person? The truth is painful. Many people have children out of fear of loneliness, out of boredom, out of pressure from others, and later regret it, but can't say a word because saying, "I regret having a child," instantly makes you a monster.

dnr. jester philosophy

 

[134applesauce456]

100% agree. unless youre rich enough to provide a kid with everything they could ever want, it is a selfish thing to have kids. being born is truly a curse for anyone who is not rich and physically healthy.

YEs but

Bringing someone into existence is always a harm, even under the best conditions. Not because life is always terrible, but because it always contains unavoidable suffering. Pleasure is uncertain, unstable, unpredictable. You cannot guarantee that your child will be happy, but you can guarantee that they will suffer. Anxiety, grief, sickness, heartbreak, loss, existential dread.
This is the starter pack of being born.
To create a child is to invite someone into a life where pain is guaranteed and joy is not.

 

[134applesauce456]

Type of shi u post after being lonely for a day

It's the hard truth

 

[134applesauce456]

dnr however I agree with antinatalism philosophy. Having a kid is a selfish act especially if you are not going to be able to correctly provide food and education for the kid, if you have shitty genetics and mental illnesses (last 2 were obviously not based on personal exp)

YEs but

Bringing someone into existence is always a harm, even under the best conditions. Not because life is always terrible, but because it always contains unavoidable suffering. Pleasure is uncertain, unstable, unpredictable. You cannot guarantee that your child will be happy, but you can guarantee that they will suffer. Anxiety, grief, sickness, heartbreak, loss, existential dread.
This is the starter pack of being born.
To create a child is to invite someone into a life where pain is guaranteed and joy is not.

 

[true_subhuman_here]

YEs but

Bringing someone into existence is always a harm, even under the best conditions. Not because life is always terrible, but because it always contains unavoidable suffering. Pleasure is uncertain, unstable, unpredictable. You cannot guarantee that your child will be happy, but you can guarantee that they will suffer. Anxiety, grief, sickness, heartbreak, loss, existential dread.
This is the starter pack of being born.
To create a child is to invite someone into a life where pain is guaranteed and joy is not.

also 100% agree with this

 

[incelbhai]

u just have a skewed perspective bc ur an incel. most people cherish being alive

 

[134applesauce456]

u just have a skewed perspective bc ur an incel. most people cherish being alive

My life and my personal perspective aside ,

I think you are gravely mistaken if you can look around at life on this Earth as a whole and believe most people enjoy it.

people ask, is it worth having a child in 2025? That's like placing a cradle in the middle of a highway and hoping cars will avoid it. We are living in a collapsing world. Climate disaster, extreme inequality, political polarization, artificial intelligence spiraling faster than regulation, wars over water, hunger, displacement. Planet Earth is becoming a battlefield. And somehow we still giggle at baby showers.

 

[pheenon]

Life gives possibility for good and beauty while death and non existence provides non, also there is growth and meaning in suffering “he who has a why to live can endure almost any how” all you need is a why to live which exists in triumph and cannot exist without struggle or resistance

 

[luuk]

Being born is a tragedy. You just don't realize it because you were trained to believe that living is a privilege. You never asked to be here. No one did. One day, two adults, confused, tired, or simply following the script, decided that creating another life sounded like a good idea. And many times, that idea didn't even exist. Many people weren't planned. They were simply the result of pleasure, of a moment, of instinct. That's how you appeared. Not because the world needed you, but because two people wanted to feel good for a few minutes.

Without asking you anything, they threw you into a world that is violent, unfair, unpredictable, and today you're expected to smile, call this a miracle, and one day do the same thing to someone equally innocent. But what if everything you learned is wrong? What if bringing someone into the world is not an act of love, but a disguised act of brutality?


There is nothing more manipulative than the romanticization of life. You are born, you cry, you learn how to walk, you go to school, you get bullied, you learn the world is unfair, you work, you get sick, you bury the people you love, and then society still tells you, "Have a child. That will give your life meaning." And so the cycle continues, not because people are evil, but because no one has the courage to admit the truth. Birth isn't a blessing, it's a sentence.


That sounds shocking but the South African philosopher David Benitar says the greatest gift you can give someone is simply to never bring them into existence. In his book better never to have been he argues that suffering is guaranteed while pleasure is optional. Someone who never existed doesn't miss life. Only those who exist feel pain.

You need to ask yourself honestly, do you really want children or are you just trying to fill a void you don't understand? Are you trying to fix your childhood inside another person? The truth is painful. Many people have children out of fear of loneliness, out of boredom, out of pressure from others, and later regret it, but can't say a word because saying, "I regret having a child," instantly makes you a monster.

dnr
This is the most cucked philosophy ever
if life was so unbearable you’d just kill yourself.
You know life is worth more than nonexistence no matter how painful it is because you chose to endure (even if you waste the meagre allocation of time you get)
Any theory that goes by the idea that suffering is some ultimate evil and that it would be better to not exist than to experience suffering is retarded

 

[134applesauce456]

Life gives possibility for good and beauty while death and non existence provides non, also there is growth and meaning in suffering “he who has a why to live can endure almost any how” all you need is a why to live which exists in triumph and cannot exist without struggle or resistance

Yes, beauty exists.
Yet, suffering is not optional. Pain is the default setting of being alive.
Beauty is the exception. David Benitar explains the asymmetry. The absence of suffering is always good, even if no one exists to enjoy that absence, but the absence of pleasure is not bad unless someone exists to miss it. This completely dismantles the romantic defense of life. It shows the brutal imbalance of existence. Avoiding suffering is always better than risking it just for the chance of pleasure. Life demands constant effort just to stay afloat. breathing, working, loving, losing, starting over. Living is an endless struggle against collapse.
And in the end, the collapse always wins. Disease, aging, death, everyone loses eventually. Having a child means creating someone who will someday lose everything they love, everything they have everything they are. You only fail to see the cruelty because you are another slave inside the system.

But imagine if you could think before existence. If someone asked you before you were born, would you like to participate in an experience where you will suffer, get sick, fail, and die, but you'll also have some nice moments? Would you say yes? You wouldn't, and neither would your future child. But you never ask

 

[Scandinavianincel]

conclusion: some people should be born and some people should't. i was lucky enough to be born into a family that can provide for me, however this isn't the case for 50% of the world.

 

[134applesauce456]

if life was so unbearable you’d just kill yourself.
You know life is worth more than nonexistence

Debunked by survival instinct, death is ideal but killing yourself is very difficult. I mean, it is in your very programmed nature to survive. it's arguably your bodies top priority.

Any theory that goes by the idea that suffering is some ultimate evil and that it would be better to not exist than to experience suffering is retarded

Can you just skim over my points? At least try and understand me. I know society has taught you children are ideal, and will fill the "void" in your life. But this is a lie.

The antiatalist argument isn't born from hatred. It's rooted in compassion. Not the glittery Hollywood compassion, but radical love, the kind that refuses to gamble with someone else's well-being. It is quite cruel to bring a person into life without warning.

 

[134applesauce456]

conclusion: some people should be born and some people should't. i was lucky enough to be born into a family that can provide for me, however this isn't the case for 50% of the world.

YEs but

Bringing someone into existence is always a harm, even under the best conditions. Not because life is always terrible, but because it always contains unavoidable suffering. Pleasure is uncertain, unstable, unpredictable. You cannot guarantee that your child will be happy, but you can guarantee that they will suffer. Anxiety, grief, sickness, heartbreak, loss, existential dread.
This is the starter pack of being born.
To create a child is to invite someone into a life where pain is guaranteed and joy is not.

 

[pheenon]

I think the premise that suffering makes life bad is already false, suffering is the catalyst for growth and triumph which is what life is all about, it cannot exist without suffering a man who has never starved will not hold a hot fresh meal in the same regard as someone who has had it their whole life, achievement only feels meaningful because of the difficulty or suffering taken to achieve it, kinda a dumb analogy but would beating a boss in a video game give the same satisfaction if you used cheats to do it? It wouldn’t, the whole idea of life denying comes from a weak will ressentiment and the inability to affirm why you are even living in the first place. Suffering is the price of achieving something higher yes if we were simply dopamine machines this premise would be true but we’re more than that people should accept life for what it is and find a reason to keep pushing

 

[Scandinavianincel]

i am a bit too tired to read that but im sure you have some good points. I feel like it's a good thing to live tho.

 

[luuk]

Being born is a tragedy. You just don't realize it because you were trained to believe that living is a privilege. You never asked to be here. No one did. One day, two adults, confused, tired, or simply following the script, decided that creating another life sounded like a good idea. And many times, that idea didn't even exist. Many people weren't planned. They were simply the result of pleasure, of a moment, of instinct. That's how you appeared. Not because the world needed you, but because two people wanted to feel good for a few minutes.

Without asking you anything, they threw you into a world that is violent, unfair, unpredictable, and today you're expected to smile, call this a miracle, and one day do the same thing to someone equally innocent. But what if everything you learned is wrong? What if bringing someone into the world is not an act of love, but a disguised act of brutality?


There is nothing more manipulative than the romanticization of life. You are born, you cry, you learn how to walk, you go to school, you get bullied, you learn the world is unfair, you work, you get sick, you bury the people you love, and then society still tells you, "Have a child. That will give your life meaning." And so the cycle continues, not because people are evil, but because no one has the courage to admit the truth. Birth isn't a blessing, it's a sentence.


That sounds shocking but the South African philosopher David Benitar says the greatest gift you can give someone is simply to never bring them into existence. In his book better never to have been he argues that suffering is guaranteed while pleasure is optional. Someone who never existed doesn't miss life. Only those who exist feel pain.

You need to ask yourself honestly, do you really want children or are you just trying to fill a void you don't understand? Are you trying to fix your childhood inside another person? The truth is painful. Many people have children out of fear of loneliness, out of boredom, out of pressure from others, and later regret it, but can't say a word because saying, "I regret having a child," instantly makes you a monster.

The mere notion of suffering in all of its form is a human concept, its not some universal value (with happiness being a “+” and suffering a “-“) which is why utilitarianism is so stupid
It is simply a signal that something is wrong and/or should be changed

Killing yourself really isn’t that difficult, if you were suffering so badly that it would be preferable to not exist then your survival instinct would not matter. You want to survive because of your innate realisation that your life is preferable to death

If one stands on the edge of a tall building or the side of the train tracks or holds a loaded gun to his chin it takes mere seconds to make the choice, no cold feet. One could simply focus on the nature of their circumstance for a second and make that leep before changing their mind

There is no objective argument for antinatalism because it requires you to accept the belief that suffering is worse than nonexistence, AND that there is more suffering in the world than good (or rather, that the amount of suffering in the world outweighs the value of everything that is good), AND that someone living a life not worth living cannot easily kill themselves

 

[134applesauce456]

I think the premise that suffering makes life bad is already false, suffering is the catalyst for growth and triumph which is what life is all about, it cannot exist without suffering a man who has never starved will not hold a hot fresh meal in the same regard as someone who has had it their whole life, achievement only feels meaningful because of the difficulty or suffering taken to achieve it, kinda a dumb analogy but would beating a boss in a video game give the same satisfaction if you used cheats to do it? It wouldn’t, the whole idea of life denying comes from a weak will ressentiment and the inability to affirm why you are even living in the first place. Suffering is the price of achieving something higher yes if we were simply dopamine machines this premise would be true but we’re more than that people should accept life for what it is and find a reason to keep pushing

You have a tainted view of suffering

Meaningless suffering exists and it is everywhere.

What about those who suffer, and instead of having some magical, fairytale-like redemption that makes their suffering "worth it", they just die, or suffer even more

Well this is the case for a lot of us.

I don't think I need to give an example but the case of Junko Furuta is one that sticks with me, just to be clear.


Your optimistic view is nice, and you know what? maybe some people have a life like that, I cannot speak for everyone.

But what I know for sure is this reality is out of reach for many of us.

Avoiding real suffering is always better than risking it just for the chance of pleasure. Life demands constant effort just to stay afloat. breathing, working, loving, losing, starting over. Living is an endless struggle against collapse.
And in the end, the collapse always wins. Disease, aging, death, everyone loses eventually.

What if true love is choosing not to gamble with someone else's fate? We admire people who protect others from harm, but we ignore the harm built into existence itself.

 

[Daddy's Home]

Antinatalists are like gay people, they won't steal your girlfriend and they'll also take another man who could do that with them..

We are living in the best times in human history, where we can enjoy maximum safety and constant comfort, at least theoretically, but that's not the point..

People have been having children throughout human history, even when life expectancy was only 30-40 years, when women frequently died during childbirth, even when there were pandemics that killed entire populations, when there was war, or when cannibalism and the rape of women and children were commonplace..

So the question arises, why? Why were they doing this? Why did they practically not care about their children, about their future lives that were going to be filled with suffering?

Why didn't they wait for, I don't know, "better/more ideal" conditions?

Because guess what, those better conditions would never have come about in their lifetime, so no one cared, action had to be taken now, because life is short anyway, and it ends at some point, so it's irrelevant..

What was actually relevant was the monkey brain telling you and the girl in the video below that it would be a very good idea to ejaculate inside her.

At that moment, you have a choice to make: either you don't do it, ever, and anyway you grow old and die, and the girl won't wait, and she'll do it with someone else instead of you and you've missed out on this experience, or you do it, and you do it as often as possible, for as long as your youth and physical body allow..

What decision do you think the monkey brain will make most often?

 

[pheenon]

You have a tainted view of suffering

Meaningless suffering exists and it is everywhere.

What about those who suffer, and instead of having some magical, fairytale-like redemption that makes their suffering "worth it", they just die, or suffer even more

Well this is the case for a lot of us.

I don't think I need to give an example but the case of Junko Furuta is one that sticks with me, just to be clear.


Your optimistic view is nice, and you know what? maybe some people have a life like that, I cannot speak for everyone.

But what I know for sure is this reality is out of reach for many of us.

Avoiding suffering is always better than risking it just for the chance of pleasure. Life demands constant effort just to stay afloat. breathing, working, loving, losing, starting over. Living is an endless struggle against collapse.
And in the end, the collapse always wins. Disease, aging, death, everyone loses eventually.

What if true love is choosing not to gamble with someone else's fate? We admire people who protect others from harm, but we ignore the harm built into existence itself.

I’m not saying everyone’s life is that way yes a lot of meaningless suffering exists and if we’re talking abt bringing kids into a convo civil war I would agree but for those in the west we can give our lives meaning

 

[pheenon]

You have a tainted view of suffering

Meaningless suffering exists and it is everywhere.

What about those who suffer, and instead of having some magical, fairytale-like redemption that makes their suffering "worth it", they just die, or suffer even more

Well this is the case for a lot of us.

I don't think I need to give an example but the case of Junko Furuta is one that sticks with me, just to be clear.


Your optimistic view is nice, and you know what? maybe some people have a life like that, I cannot speak for everyone.

But what I know for sure is this reality is out of reach for many of us.

Avoiding real suffering is always better than risking it just for the chance of pleasure. Life demands constant effort just to stay afloat. breathing, working, loving, losing, starting over. Living is an endless struggle against collapse.
And in the end, the collapse always wins. Disease, aging, death, everyone loses eventually.

What if true love is choosing not to gamble with someone else's fate? We admire people who protect others from harm, but we ignore the harm built into existence itself.

What Dosent kill u makes u stronger yes it sounds dumb but its a mindset even a kid in a situation like that can endure the pain if he has a light to follow, a goal to reach towards then suffering isn’t so bad

 

[134applesauce456]

Killing yourself really isn’t that difficult, if you were suffering so badly that it would be preferable to not exist then your survival instinct would not matter. You want to survive because of your innate realisation that your life is preferable to death

Not only does society take preventative measures to blockade "easy suicide methods" , survival instinct always matters, how could it not?

Life is not preferable to non existence, I have debunked that throughout this thread . You are just giving an statement without explanation,

Tell me why this life be preferable to non existence ?

I'll tell you why it's not
African philosopher David Benitar says the greatest gift you can give someone is simply to never bring them into existence. In his book better never to have been he argues that suffering is guaranteed while pleasure is optional. Someone who never existed doesn't miss life. Only those who exist feel pain

There is no objective argument for antinatalism because it requires you to accept the belief that suffering is worse than nonexistence, AND that there is more suffering in the world than good (or rather, that the amount of suffering in the world outweighs the value of everything that is good), AND that someone@ living a life not worth living cannot easily kill themselves

Suffering is worse than nonexistence, why don't you explain to me how it is not.

Are you telling me you would rather go through the worst pain imaginable than to simply feel nothing and not exist? If so that's quite foolish

There is absolutely more suffering in the world than good. You must be blinded by your own [currently] comfortable life if you think other wise. Put yourself in the feet of the less fortunate who you ignore.
But either way, I can almost guarantee that life won't be a smooth ride for you either( sooner or later ; death , disease, misfortune , and the inevitable will triumph )

Someone who is suffering may not have the means to kill themselves in a variety of situations. For one, they could simply not recognize their suffering and a way out. 2 many countries take preventative measures to limit suicide methods especially the more favorable ones. 3 survival instinct, you could have the most torturous life In existence but that instinct is innate and it will NEVER leave you

Also a plethora of other reasons I don't even have time to list

Either way my argument stands,
The most loving choice is the one that prevents suffering before it begins.

 

[luuk]

Not only does society take preventative measures to blockade "easy suicide methods" , survival instinct always matters, how could it not?

There are still plenty of very easy ways there’s an entire forum for it

Not only does society take preventative measures to blockade "easy suicide methods" , survival instinct always matters, how could it not?

Life is not preferable to non existence, I have debunked that throughout this thread . You are just giving an statement without explanation,

Tell me why this life be preferable to non existence ?

I'll tell you why it's not
African philosopher David Benitar says the greatest gift you can give someone is simply to never bring them into existence. In his book better never to have been he argues that suffering is guaranteed while pleasure is optional. Someone who never existed doesn't miss life. Only those who exist feel pain

Suffering is worse than nonexistence, why don't you explain to me how it is not.

Was going to continue responding to this but dnr after that you jewish subversive shill

 

[134applesauce456]

Antinatalists are like gay people, they won't steal your girlfriend and they'll also take another man who could do that with them..

We are living in the best times in human history, where we can enjoy maximum safety and constant comfort, at least theoretically, but that's not the point..

People have been having children throughout human history, even when life expectancy was only 30-40 years, when women frequently died during childbirth, even when there were pandemics that killed entire populations, when there was war, or when cannibalism and the rape of women and children were commonplace..

So the question arises, why? Why were they doing this? Why did they practically not care about their children, about their future lives that were going to be filled with suffering?

Why didn't they wait for, I don't know, "better/more ideal" conditions?

Because guess what, those better conditions would never have come about in their lifetime, so no one cared, action had to be taken now, because life is short anyway, and it ends at some point, so it's irrelevant..

What was actually relevant was the monkey brain telling you and the girl in the video below that it would be a very good idea to ejaculate inside her.

At that moment, you have a choice to make: either you don't do it, ever, and anyway you grow old and die, and the girl won't wait, and she'll do it with someone else instead of you and you've missed out on this experience, or you do it, and you do it as often as possible, for as long as your youth and physical body allow..

What decision do you think the monkey brain will make most often?

You are blinded by lust it's clear

I have nothing to say

 

[134applesauce456]

What Dosent kill u makes u stronger yes it sounds dumb but its a mindset even a kid in a situation like that can endure the pain if he has a light to follow, a goal to reach towards then suffering isn’t so bad

"Suffering makes us stronger". But a child never asked to become strong. A child never asked for character development. A child never asked to learn through pain. That is the romantic lie we tell ourselves to make the trauma bearable. And when children grow into adults, they repeat the same story. Because if they don't, they must face the truth that they were placed into a life they never agreed to live.

 

[bourgeoizyzz]

Life is gay, my mind is gay, and now the economy is gay

I'm not forcing that on a kid, and now the country is full of brown people?

Nigger please

 

[pheenon]

"Suffering makes us stronger". But a child never asked to become strong. A child never asked for character development. A child never asked to learn through pain. That is the romantic lie we tell ourselves to make the trauma bearable. And when children grow into adults, they repeat the same story. Because if they don't, they must face the truth that they were placed into a life they never agreed to live.

So what if it is a lie, if it gives our life meaning and purpose then that’s all that matters nothing truly matters so you must make something matter and in that sense all purpose is a “lie”

 

[Daddy's Home]

You are blinded by lust it's clear

I have nothing to say

In my country, there is a very popular song that has the following verse:

"A man without a cute one has a kinda weak mind"

The verse refers to those who think too much, and because of this, they do not act, without realizing that the years are passing, as is their reproductive capacity and ability to have sex in general..

The reality is that life is not a place where you do charity, where you put others first instead of yourself, where you let your wife have a child with your neighbor..

You came alone, as an individual, into this world, and that is how you will depart, without parents, siblings, or a significant other or children..

Men are like products on a supermarket shelf; they have to look their best and offer as much as possible to be bought, and women are the ones who choose them and eventually buy them to put their sperm in their wombs and make babies..

Don't you want to be on the shelf, to have a chance too? Very well, there's no loss, the girls will choose others, no one will miss you if you don't want to participate in this game of life..

You'll just grow old and die, and that's it..

It's just like everything else in life, from who's president to who sweeps the streets..

Khabib explains this very well in the video below..

As I said at the beginning, nobody cares. If you don't want to have children with that girl, from whatever reason, someone else will, so what have you achieved?

A child will be born anyway, with or without your contribution..



Bonus brutal Reddit post..

 

[134applesauce456]

There are still plenty of very easy ways there’s an entire forum for it

The SS.net forum constantly acknowledges the challenges and constraints to many methods. They also acknowledge the challenge of overcoming survival instinct. A lot of methods that are available to the average person are gorey and require you to greatly overcome your survival instinct. It's challenging

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Was going to continue responding to this but dnr after that you jewish subversive shill

If you ignore someone speaking the truth just because of their ethnicity which they did not choose, that tells me all I need to know

 

[luuk]

If you ignore someone speaking the truth just because of their ethnicity which they did not choose, that tells me all I need to know

If someone belongs to a tribe with a vested interest and clear track record in subverting my people and lowering our population and birth rates then I won't take his views (which actively promote such things) seriously, in fact I will consider them to be actively hostile to my interests

 

[134applesauce456]

If someone belongs to a tribe with a vested interest and clear track record in subverting my people and lowering our population and birth rates then I won't take his views (which actively promote such things) seriously, in fact I will consider them to be actively hostile to my interests

that's what they want you to think

they want you to be divided over things out of anyone's control

and you fell for it

 

[Klasik616]

The world is 100% conditional and scientific, "nothing will ever happen" because nothing happens for a miracle. In this materialistic world we live, we only save ourselves with enough power.

Most people are meant to struggle and they do, if you take the 8 billions of people of the world you'll see that most are suffering and don't like how things work. Life is the opposite of imagination, you can't do what you want unless you're able to. This makes life boring, it can't surprise you. Nothing is guaranteed for every person, not even a family.

This is the truth, you're just an smart animal called a human, yes we do have more freedom than other species but that doesn't mean life is easy instead the more complex the system is the worse life you can have. Technology instead of making life easier, is making it more complicated by creating copes you can spend time on.

 

[NoExit]

darkness is the worlds true nature

 

[Klasik616]

darkness is the worlds true nature

 

[sub5tripleT]

why are we even debating when we are subhuman and will never have kids with an foid

 

[JasGews69x]

Liberal hedonists when they have their first inconvenience: