Any advice?

[zemult]

It's simpler if you both say what percentile he is relative to others in society

I've already said bottom 15th percentile which isn't much different from your rating and he didn't whine lol

Just some grey trying to pick a fight and seem intelligent as per usual

 

[greycel]

I've already said bottom 15th percentile which isn't much different from your rating and he didn't whine lol

@topology what percentile would you say?

 

[topology]

All of this is quite rich coming from the one who quoted my post originally whining that I "over inflate ratings", only to backtrack and say that it's "one micro-rank of difference" so it doesn't matter. If anything you're the one that should take the thread to heart, especially with your so-called "objective measurements" that prove he's lower on your micro-ranking scale.

just read his thread and changed my opinion. you, on the other hand, had read his thread and continued down the path. also, in what world is it stupid to backtrack once you've realized you're wrong? literal moronic take. do you want me to continue spewing garbage out of arrogance?

He does not have death-tier ratios by every measure jfl. Chin to philtrum is ideal, Mouth to nose ratio is ideal for his phenotype (pretty good considering it's a SELFIE PHOTO). You're just being aesthetically dishonest to try and prove your dogshit argument that only your fellow pajeet greys agree with.

twfhr, fwhr, upper-to-lower lip ratio, chin-to-philtrum — debatable, and that’s even with him having a massive chin. he just has a terrible philtrum, among other things. i’m not going to list every single flaw, but it’s clear he has too many to be considered ltn

you also refused to rate using lltn/mltn/hltn, probably because..? i don't even know..? you’re afraid of getting the rankings wrong — a really common trend i’ve noticed..? i said the difference is one micro-tier now because you never clarified which type he is. it’s not that hard to understand. me and greycel just have different ratings that come from bias, which you already knew beforehand

lastly, you suggested he's the bottom 15-20%. i do not really care to pay attention to someone who thinks that. he is not 1/5 rarity wise and greycels rating of bottom 5-10% sits closer to my rating.

 

[topology]

@topology what percentile would you say?

like bottom 3% or so

 

[dnrwarrior11]

twfhr, fwhr

heavily affected by the fact that he took a close up photo with around a 24 mm lens

but sure..

 

[topology]

heavily affected by the fact that he took a close up photo with around a 24 mm lens

but sure..

tfwhr of like 1.62 iirc, the camera would need to be like 10cm away for it to have that big of an effect. do you really think his tfwhr is anywhere near ideal once you remove the camera distortion?

 

[zemult]

twfhr, fwhr, upper-to-lower lip ratio, chin-to-philtrum — debatable, and that’s even with him having a massive chin. he just has a terrible philtrum, among other things. i’m not going to list every single flaw, but it’s clear he has too many to be considered ltn

Chin to philtrum - literally 2.05 (ideal)

Fwhr - 1.61, accounting for selfie distortion you can safely predict it's realistically in the 1.8 range which is a small flaw.

Where are the 10 ratios? I thought every single ratio was completely off the ideal. Perhaps you just made it up? Some of your own ratios that you've listed yourself are even within the ideal range.

Like I've expected, directly listing out the measurements will just make you look more and more like a retard, unfortunately.

you also refused to rate using lltn/mltn/hltn, probably because..? i don't even know..? you’re afraid of getting the rankings wrong — a really common trend i’ve noticed..? i said the difference is one micro-tier now because you never clarified which type he is. it’s not that hard to understand. me and greycel just have different ratings that come from bias, which you already knew beforehand

No nigga, when I originally joined the forum on my old account, you never rated using those autistic micro-tiers. It's only you TikTok-cels that invented that shit.

Do you genuinely think that a MTB is going to see the difference between a "High MTN" and a "Mid MTN" and then would choose to fuck the "High MTN" instead? Especially with how much you've already claimed that you understood that ratings are subjective, especially within these "micro-tiers" you called it?

lastly, you suggested he's the bottom 15-20%. i do not really care to pay attention to someone who thinks that. he is not 1/5 rarity wise and greycels rating of bottom 5-10% sits closer to my rating.

Crazy, 15th percentile and 5th percentile have such a massive difference that it makes you not want to pay attention to me, too bad. Although you're the one continuing to reply over and over lol.

 

[dnrwarrior11]

tfwhr of like 1.62 iirc, the camera would need to be like 10cm away for it to have that big of an effect. do you really think his tfwhr is anywhere near ideal once you remove the camera distortion?

my tfwhr goes from 1.5+ ish to 1.32 and fwhr from 1.71 to 1.99 from a selfie to mirror picture with zoom.

so yes, but on the higher end.

 

[zemult]

my tfwhr goes from 1.5+ ish to 1.32 and fwhr from 1.71 to 1.99 from a selfie to mirror picture with zoom.

so yes, but on the higher end.

Same, my FWHR goes from 1.7 in a selfie to 1.9-2.0 depending on the photo.

 

[ILikeNihari123]

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[topology]

Crazy, 15th percentile and 5th percentile have such a massive difference that it makes you not want to pay attention to me, too bad. Although you're the one continuing to reply over and over lol.

trying to under value the difference of bottom 15% and 5% JFL. and i meant paying attention as in actually hearing what you're saying & applying it to what i know to form a different rating system.

No nigga, when I originally joined the forum on my old account, you never rated using those autistic micro-tiers. It's only you TikTok-cels that invented that shit.

Do you genuinely think that a MTB is going to see the difference between a "High MTN" and a "Mid MTN" and then would choose to fuck the "High MTN" instead? Especially with how much you've already claimed that you understood that ratings are subjective, especially within these "micro-tiers" you called it?

yep, not an argument, you refused to rate with the micro-tiers and then proceed to insult me for saying it's a matter of bias with me & greycel (lltn vs sub human)

Chin to philtrum - literally 2.05 (ideal)

Fwhr - 1.61, accounting for selfie distortion you can safely predict it's realistically in the 1.8 range which is a small flaw.

Where are the 10 ratios? I thought every single ratio was completely off the ideal. Perhaps you just made it up? Some of your own ratios that you've listed yourself are even within the ideal range.

Like I've expected, directly listing out the measurements will just make you look more and more like a retard, unfortunately.

chin to philtrum is always below 2 no matter what — you’re counting the beard as part of the chin.
fwhr is below 1.6, no idea what you’re talking about.
tfwhr, fwhr, midface, and chin to philtrum are all unideal — no clue what you’re saying otherwise.

so yes, but on the higher end.

once again, to both of you, at 50cm on a 24mm camera, the distortion isn’t that significant. his tfwhr was around 1.62 — even without distortion it’d be about 1.5, which is still garbage

 

[topology]

Chin to philtrum - literally 2.05 (ideal)

Fwhr - 1.61, accounting for selfie distortion you can safely predict it's realistically in the 1.8 range which is a small flaw.

Where are the 10 ratios? I thought every single ratio was completely off the ideal. Perhaps you just made it up? Some of your own ratios that you've listed yourself are even within the ideal range.

Like I've expected, directly listing out the measurements will just make you look more and more like a retard, unfortunately.


No nigga, when I originally joined the forum on my old account, you never rated using those autistic micro-tiers. It's only you TikTok-cels that invented that shit.

Do you genuinely think that a MTB is going to see the difference between a "High MTN" and a "Mid MTN" and then would choose to fuck the "High MTN" instead? Especially with how much you've already claimed that you understood that ratings are subjective, especially within these "micro-tiers" you called it?


Crazy, 15th percentile and 5th percentile have such a massive difference that it makes you not want to pay attention to me, too bad. Although you're the one continuing to reply over and over lol.

also, everyone who rated him ltn (aka those on your side) would, percentile-wise, be closer to me than to you. the percent disparity between me and greycel was 4.5%, while the disparity between you and greycel was 10%. you switched to using “bottom 15%” after realizing that “bottom 20%” was an iqlet take.

your original rating was bottom 15–20%. you’re an iqlet. everyone who agreed with you ended up being closer to my rating anyway. this is what happens when you lazily rate someone “ltn” instead of using lltn/mltn/hltn. suck my dick you brain dead moron

 

[zemult]

trying to under value the difference of bottom 15% and 5% JFL. and i meant paying attention as in actually hearing what you're saying & applying it to what i know to form a different rating system.


yep, not an argument, you refused to rate with the micro-tiers and then proceed to insult me for saying it's a matter of bias with me & greycel (lltn vs sub human)

How convenient that you ignore the "mid LTN" being in the range of greycel's message. Even more convenient that your own rating doesn't include a micro-tier, I've yet to see you say "high subhuman" despite the attempt at gospel with how micro-rankings are apparently so important. You don't even follow what you're trying to say.

Your own words:

"this is a matter of one micro-rank of difference, which is entirely subjective which makes this argument useless"

But now you're saying that micro-rankings are so important, a sudden change of heart and now you genuinely think a MTB is going to choose between a mid and high MTN. JFL

once again, to both of you, at 50cm on a 24mm camera, the distortion isn’t that significant. his tfwhr was around 1.62 — even without distortion it’d be about 1.5, which is still garbage

You're still measuring FWHR on a selfie photo, of which you don't know the distance of the photo or the lens of the camera. All of what you're doing is irrelevant and guesstimating. Instead ask OP for an actual decent picture before measuring ratios like any other decent rater.

Here's a guide that you can use:

HOW TO TAKE RATING PICTURES

Lens distortion affects selfies because they're usually taken too close, at arm's length. For accurate ratings or looksmaxxing advice, photos should be taken from at least 6 feet away. Here's a quick guide: 1. Place your phone at eye level on a stable surface. 2. Ensure the phone is straight...

looksmax.org

 

[topology]

How convenient that you ignore the "mid LTN" being in the range of greycel's message. Even more convenient that your own rating doesn't include a micro-tier, I've yet to see you say "high subhuman" despite the attempt at gospel with how micro-rankings are apparently so important. You don't even follow what you're trying to say.

the difference is no one says high subhuman iqlet, it's implied i'm not talking about low subhumans—you'd need deformities for that.

and sure mate, let's ignore the "mid ltn" in his rating. his ranking disparity is still twice as close to mine as it is to yours (4.5% vs 10%). i can lay out how i came to that conclusion if you wish, since your math skills are subpar at best.

You're still measuring FWHR on a selfie photo, of which you don't know the distance of the photo or the lens of the camera. All of what you're doing is irrelevant and guesstimating. Instead ask OP for an actual decent picture before measuring ratios like any other decent rater.

50cm is a very fair distance. i measured using myself without extending my arms to get that number (and he looks quite tall, so his wingspan is probably longer than mine). a decent photo isn’t going to make his 1.62 tfwhr anywhere near ideal

 

[zemult]

also, everyone who rated him ltn (aka those on your side) would, percentile-wise, be closer to me than to you. the percent disparity between me and greycel was 4.5%, while the disparity between you and greycel was 10%. you switched to using “bottom 15%” after realizing that “bottom 20%” was an iqlet take.

What? The entire thread apart from other greys trying to give support disagrees with you. Even greycel doesn't even rate OP subhuman, you have to reach and compare percentile numbers lol

The difference in their percentiles are quite low, do they look the same?

 

[The Fool]

Isnt this just ratios

 

[zemult]

the difference is no one says high subhuman iqlet, it's implied i'm not talking about low subhumans—you'd need deformities for that.

and sure mate, let's ignore the "mid ltn" in his rating. his ranking disparity is still twice as close to mine as it is to yours (4.5% vs 10%). i can lay out how i came to that conclusion if you wish, since your math skills are subpar at best.

Nobody says high subhuman. JFL

These micro tiers are only important until they're not convenient for their argument. You're fooling nobody you fucking retard lol

 

[zemult]

50cm is a very fair distance. i measured using myself without extending my arms to get that number (and he looks quite tall, so his wingspan is probably longer than mine). a decent photo isn’t going to make his 1.62 tfwhr anywhere near ideal

Or instead ask for a proper picture at a normal distance instead of doing all these mental gymnastics to account for the selfie photo

It's really that simple

Yes they're likely flaws but labeling it as 1.62 is just low IQ lol

 

[dnrwarrior11]

Nobody says high subhuman. JFL

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These micro tiers are only important until they're not convenient for their argument. You're fooling nobody you fucking retard lol

honestly just think this dude is ragebaiting lol its so easy to comprehend how lens distortion affects ratios. at this point u might as well just ignore him, ur not gonna change his mind and ur just wasting ur time.

 

[zemult]

honestly just think this dude is ragebaiting lol its so easy to comprehend how lens distortion affects ratios. at this point u might as well just ignore him, ur not gonna change his mind and ur just wasting ur time.

I actually think he's just this braindead but I do agree this is a huge waste of time

 

[LDARGymmaxx]

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stop using this picture you just look gay