Any bros here have experience with tretinoin?

[Deleted member 28610]

want to know what side effects did you experience and how long did it took to see proper results

 

[tyroneorkms]

I didn't have much side effects tbh. Could be because I opted for the more expensive Retin-A Micro which is time-released. Basically I had a bit of dry skin about 2 weeks after starting to apply it. That only lasted for around 2 weeks. After that I haven't experienced anything. My routine is basically: AM - Cleanser, Toner, Vitamin C serum, Moisturizer+Sunscreen; PM - Cleanser, Toner, Retin-A Micro, Moisturizer.

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

i used it to clear my skin. it made my skin itch like hell for a week but went away after.

 

[Deleted member 28610]

I didn't have much side effects tbh. Could be because I opted for the more expensive Retin-A Micro which is time-released. Basically I had a bit of dry skin about 2 weeks after starting to apply it. That only lasted for around 2 weeks. After that I haven't experienced anything. My routine is basically: AM - Cleanser, Toner, Vitamin C serum, Moisturizer+Sunscreen; PM - Cleanser, Toner, Retin-A Micro, Moisturizer.

did ur skin look better after using it

 

[Deleted member 28610]

i used it to clear my skin. it made my skin itch like hell for a week but went away after.

did it work

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

did it work

yes

 

[tyroneorkms]

did it work

Yeah, there really isn't much more I can do to improve my skin further at this point. If I wanted the glass skin look for example all I really need to do is moisturize better the night before and I'll have it the next day.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

I use it along with accutane and othet presciption retinoids so I get insane side effects but that's my choice ascension or death

 

[TUSSELEIF]

Made my collagen much better

 

[DelonLover1999]

@Lord&Master

 

[Deleted member 28610]

I use it along with accutane and othet presciption retinoids so I get insane side effects but that's my choice ascension or death

why use accutane as a manlet nigga that shit is cucking ur growth

 

[BloodClot]

Tretinoin gave me Autism

 

[Lord&Master]

@Lord&Master

I'll probably get a bunch of flack for this but honestly 99% of skincare products are not necessary.

I've tried nearly all of them, it gets expensive and is just a band-aid fix for an internal problem.

That internal problem, is related to diet and it's effects on gut microbiome.

Eating Carnivore diet without dairy products and only washing face with water is all you need for glowing skin without even trying. It looks a million times more natural and better than tretinoin's fake glow, it's really uncanny and only looks good on women.

 

[DelonLover1999]

I'll probably get a bunch of flack for this but honestly 99% of skincare products are not necessary.

I've tried nearly all of them, it gets expensive and is just a band-aid fix for an internal problem.

That internal problem, is related to diet and it's effects on gut microbiome.

Eating Carnivore diet without dairy products and only washing face with water is all you need for glowing skin without even trying. It looks a million times more natural and better than tretinoin's fake glow, it's really uncanny and only looks good on women.

100% true, some people have incredible skin without ever having put a drop of cleanser on their face. Sure, genetics might be helping a bit, but I too think that habits are more important when it comes to this.

I wanna try a carnivore diet, but it would be hard logistically cause half the time i don't even eat at home anymore.

What would you say are the main things to avoid, besides dairy?

 

[Vista]

started taking at the start of this year, started on 0.1% gel every 2-3 nights, had a purge for 3 months (brutal). The worst thing was having flaking/dry skin, which lasted for about 6 months and meant I had to moisturise multiple times per day.

I started seeing good results probably around the 6-8 months, nose got smaller, less (if not all) blackheads are gone and acne is mostly gone.

 

[bradpittshairline]

I didn't have much side effects tbh. Could be because I opted for the more expensive Retin-A Micro which is time-released. Basically I had a bit of dry skin about 2 weeks after starting to apply it. That only lasted for around 2 weeks. After that I haven't experienced anything. My routine is basically: AM - Cleanser, Toner, Vitamin C serum, Moisturizer+Sunscreen; PM - Cleanser, Toner, Retin-A Micro, Moisturizer.

ive been on regular tret 0.05, u think its worth moving to the micro? i dont have any side effects and my acne is going away quickly with about 6 weeks into it. i can get it cheap so money isnt a problem

 

[bradpittshairline]

100% true, some people have incredible skin without ever having put a drop of cleanser on their face. Sure, genetics might be helping a bit, but I too think that habits are more important when it comes to this.

I wanna try a carnivore diet, but it would be hard logistically cause half the time i don't even eat at home anymore.

What would you say are the main things to avoid, besides dairy?

diet theory has been debunked by dermatology long ago, the new conclusion is that its due to androgens (in my case too) but some people might benifit from diet changes (i didn't) if their current diet is causing inflamation in their body

 

[grooxx]

want to know what side effects did you experience and how long did it took to see proper results

2 weeks of itching around the eyes (light itch). And that's all.
After that I had great skin for 2 month the two it stoppef

 

[Deleted member 28610]

diet theory has been debunked by dermatology long ago, the new conclusion is that its due to androgens (in my case too) but some people might benifit from diet changes (i didn't) if their current diet is causing inflamation in their body

yeah bcs dermas want you to buy their products

 

[bradpittshairline]

yeah bcs dermas want you to buy their products

Diet theory failed to solve acne for enough patients over the last 2-3 decades. And even if diet caused acne I wouldn’t stop drinking milk because of acne when there’s tretinoin and isotretinoin

 

[tyroneorkms]

ive been on regular tret 0.05, u think its worth moving to the micro? i dont have any side effects and my acne is going away quickly with about 6 weeks into it. i can get it cheap so money isnt a problem

No point if your skin has already acclimated.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

I'll probably get a bunch of flack for this but honestly 99% of skincare products are not necessary.

I've tried nearly all of them, it gets expensive and is just a band-aid fix for an internal problem.

That internal problem, is related to diet and it's effects on gut microbiome.

Eating Carnivore diet without dairy products and only washing face with water is all you need for glowing skin without even trying. It looks a million times more natural and better than tretinoin's fake glow, it's really uncanny and only looks good on women.

Muh carnivore diet jfl
Mariana trench iq

 

[Lord&Master]

Muh carnivore diet jfl
Mariana trench iq

Your opinion is worthless without any explanation jfl

 

[Lord&Master]

100% true, some people have incredible skin without ever having put a drop of cleanser on their face. Sure, genetics might be helping a bit, but I too think that habits are more important when it comes to this.

I wanna try a carnivore diet, but it would be hard logistically cause half the time i don't even eat at home anymore.

What would you say are the main things to avoid, besides dairy?

Maybe it's because putting a ton of different chemicals isn't natural at all or helpful for your skin. It disrupts the skin barrier and it only treats skin at the surface level. We know that skin is made up proteins and fats, it's basically whatever you ate, you are what you eat. So if you eat a bunch of shit you will get shit skin.

Main things to avoid:

Industrial seed oils are the highly processed oils extracted from soybeans, corn, rapeseed (canola), cottonseed and sunflower and safflower seeds. Highly inflammatory Omega 6 fatty acids. Eating more of these as opposed to Omega 3 will heighten inflammatory responses in your body systemically.


Anything with a lot of added sugar in it or sugar like substitutes. It can potentially increase sebum production leading to oilier skin.

Fruit might be ok, I'm on the fence about it. The problem with fruits nowadays is that they're all genetically modified unnaturally sweet compared to how they were a while ago.

Vegetables with the lowest antinutrient contents would probably be ok, they will be neutral and likely not do any damage.


I'm using a bit of bro science in my explanation, but I think it inherently makes sense.

I think the reason why a lot of people take a long time to find a skincare product that finally works is because we aren't meant to be using them in the first place. Out of hundreds of chemicals maybe a couple of them will be somewhat harmless and maybe has a positive effect.

Same thing with plants, imagine going outside with no prior knowledge of what plants are poisonous or harmful. It's really hard to find the actually edible vegetables without dying of poisoning after trying different weird plants you found.

Ideal routine for skin is just eat mostly meat, and a little bit of fruit and vegetables occasionally. Water only on the face.

 

[Lord&Master]

100% true, some people have incredible skin without ever having put a drop of cleanser on their face. Sure, genetics might be helping a bit, but I too think that habits are more important when it comes to this.

I wanna try a carnivore diet, but it would be hard logistically cause half the time i don't even eat at home anymore.

What would you say are the main things to avoid, besides dairy?

A really cheap and effective way to get meat cooked for you is to go to a local Wendy's, or McDonalds, or any burger place and just ask them for only beef patties.

 

[Deleted member 28610]

Maybe it's because putting a ton of different chemicals isn't natural at all or helpful for your skin. It disrupts the skin barrier and it only treats skin at the surface level. We know that skin is made up proteins and fats, it's basically whatever you ate, you are what you eat. So if you eat a bunch of shit you will get shit skin.

Main things to avoid:

Industrial seed oils are the highly processed oils extracted from soybeans, corn, rapeseed (canola), cottonseed and sunflower and safflower seeds. Highly inflammatory Omega 6 fatty acids. Eating more of these as opposed to Omega 3 will heighten inflammatory responses in your body systemically.


Anything with a lot of added sugar in it or sugar like substitutes. It can potentially increase sebum production leading to oilier skin.

Fruit might be ok, I'm on the fence about it. The problem with fruits nowadays is that they're all genetically modified unnaturally sweet compared to how they were a while ago.

Vegetables with the lowest antinutrient contents would probably be ok, they will be neutral and likely not do any damage.


I'm using a bit of bro science in my explanation, but I think it inherently makes sense.

I think the reason why a lot of people take a long time to find a skincare product that finally works is because we aren't meant to be using them in the first place. Out of hundreds of chemicals maybe a couple of them will be somewhat harmless and maybe has a positive effect.

Same thing with plants, imagine going outside with no prior knowledge of what plants are poisonous or harmful. It's really hard to find the actually edible vegetables without dying of poisoning after trying different weird plants you found.

Ideal routine for skin is just eat mostly meat, and a little bit of fruit and vegetables occasionally. Water only on the face.

is it ok to eat carrots and tomatoes cooked in butter? are they high in pufa or nah

 

[Deleted member 28610]

A really cheap and effective way to get meat cooked for you is to go to a local Wendy's, or McDonalds, or any burger place and just ask them for only beef patties.

i wouldnt trust the beef in fast food chains tbh

 

[Lord&Master]

is it ok to eat carrots and tomatoes cooked in butter? are they high in pufa or nah

With vegetables, it's really dependent on the individual's reaction to it.

Tomatoes are a high FODMAP food and is a Nightshade plant, which many people will have allergic responses to it and will flare up skin conditions potentially.

As for carrots, I don't have an opinion on it.

 

[Lord&Master]

i wouldnt trust the beef in fast food chains tbh

The lowest quality beef is still 100x better than eating Organic candy and chips

 

[Deleted member 31560]

I'll probably get a bunch of flack for this but honestly 99% of skincare products are not necessary.

I've tried nearly all of them, it gets expensive and is just a band-aid fix for an internal problem.

That internal problem, is related to diet and it's effects on gut microbiome.

Eating Carnivore diet without dairy products and only washing face with water is all you need for glowing skin without even trying. It looks a million times more natural and better than tretinoin's fake glow, it's really uncanny and only looks good on women.

my skin is the clearest when i drink alcohol, especially binging

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Your opinion is worthless without any explanation jfl

I don't have to explain why something is nonsense, unless reasonable evidence has been provided in support of it
Everyone knows east Asians have the best skin and their diet is mostly rice and noodles

 

[Deleted member 28610]

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I don't have to explain why something is nonsense, unless reasonable evidence has been provided in support of it
Everyone knows east Asians have the best skin and their diet is mostly rice and noodles

koreans eat lots of both broth for gut health that supports good skin health
also kimchi which is pro gut health and anti inflammatory
compare that to western goyslop which uses seed oils to cook, and lots of processed material which is pro-inflammatory and kills your gut microbiome

 

[optimisticzoomer]

koreans eat lots of both broth for gut health that supports good skin health
also kimchi which is pro gut health and anti inflammatory
compare that to western goyslop which uses seed oils to cook, and lots of processed material which is pro-inflammatory and kills your gut microbiome

Mostly broscience
But anyway, that's not carnivore diet which is what I was laughing at

 

[Deleted member 28610]

Mostly broscience
But anyway, that's not carnivore diet which is what I was laughing at

its not broscience lil bro

 

[garfyld]

Topical skincare works because you can apply good things directly to the skin without degrading it by liver by oral or diet, of course diet is more important for skin than skincare as creams or whatever.
Tretinoin only works amazingly well in combination with some compounds but i wont tell you no way.

BTW. Acne is caused in 80% cases by insulin resistance what is caused by gluten, fast food, lack of exercise and so on. Ketogenic diet, vegan diet, carnivore diet and any other low gi diet will most likely cure your acne. Literally animals in wild dont get acne because they lead insulin sensitive diet, humans have tended to prefer seasonly grown grains since 10000 years, before that acne was a rare thing

The Relationship Between Acne Vulgaris and Insulin Resistance

Acne vulgaris is a chronic inflammatory disease of the pilosebaceous unit that usually affects adolescents. The aetiology and severity of acne may be influenced by hyperinsulinemia and insulin resistance. A case-control study was conducted in the dermatology outpatient clinic of Al-Fayhaa...

www.cureus.com

PS. Low insulin resistance is the key for longevity and long youthful

PS2. Insulin increases in short-term huge amount of testosterone what hit androgen receptors what cause inflammation, women rarely have acne because they convert testosterone to estrogen

 

[Lord&Master]

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I don't have to explain why something is nonsense, unless reasonable evidence has been provided in support of it
Everyone knows east Asians have the best skin and their diet is mostly rice and noodles

East asians are also known for their attention to skincare products. Especially the koreans. You can still have decent skin with a shit diet if you find a skincare product that works. But it's like a drug that your skin heavily depends on.

 

[brb7]

Maybe it's because putting a ton of different chemicals isn't natural at all or helpful for your skin. It disrupts the skin barrier and it only treats skin at the surface level. We know that skin is made up proteins and fats, it's basically whatever you ate, you are what you eat. So if you eat a bunch of shit you will get shit skin.

Main things to avoid:

Industrial seed oils are the highly processed oils extracted from soybeans, corn, rapeseed (canola), cottonseed and sunflower and safflower seeds. Highly inflammatory Omega 6 fatty acids. Eating more of these as opposed to Omega 3 will heighten inflammatory responses in your body systemically.


Anything with a lot of added sugar in it or sugar like substitutes. It can potentially increase sebum production leading to oilier skin.

Fruit might be ok, I'm on the fence about it. The problem with fruits nowadays is that they're all genetically modified unnaturally sweet compared to how they were a while ago.

Vegetables with the lowest antinutrient contents would probably be ok, they will be neutral and likely not do any damage.


I'm using a bit of bro science in my explanation, but I think it inherently makes sense.

I think the reason why a lot of people take a long time to find a skincare product that finally works is because we aren't meant to be using them in the first place. Out of hundreds of chemicals maybe a couple of them will be somewhat harmless and maybe has a positive effect.

Same thing with plants, imagine going outside with no prior knowledge of what plants are poisonous or harmful. It's really hard to find the actually edible vegetables without dying of poisoning after trying different weird plants you found.

Ideal routine for skin is just eat mostly meat, and a little bit of fruit and vegetables occasionally. Water only on the face.

I agree, im carni as well but got memed into starting topical skincare routines (tretinoin etc.)
Im still not convinced of topical skincare. I had good skin before but now my skin looks kinda shitty 2 months into minox + topical skincare routine.

What are your thoughts on sunscreen and uv damage to the skin?

 

[bradpittshairline]

I agree, im carni as well but got memed into starting topical skincare routines (tretinoin etc.)
Im still not convinced of topical skincare. I had good skin before but now my skin looks kinda shitty 2 months into minox + topical skincare routine.

What are your thoughts on sunscreen and uv damage to the skin?

not gonna comment on diet but tret is the most researched and non BS topical. I'd suggest you to stay away from other marketing ploys however tret can also reverse sun damage by regenerating your cells and is used in the real world for some types of skin cancers as well.

I suspect that minoxidil is responsible for your bad skin quality since its a vasodilator which makes you retain water, look bloated and puffy. If youre not suffering from hair loss and using it for eye brows or beard, I'd suggest you to quit it and just use tret.

For someone with no acne, or even mild acne you can use tret thrice or twice a week since retinoic acid will still be inside your skin in the break days.

 

[Zain202]

I am using tretinoin 0.05% from skinorac for 4 months to get the gay glow. It works perfectly.

 

[Deleted member 24770]

want to know what side effects did you experience and how long did it took to see proper results

It’s good just makes ur skin dry at first

 

[Deleted member 28610]

It’s good just makes ur skin dry at first

how long did it take for u to see good results

 

[brb7]

not gonna comment on diet but tret is the most researched and non BS topical. I'd suggest you to stay away from other marketing ploys however tret can also reverse sun damage by regenerating your cells and is used in the real world for some types of skin cancers as well.

I suspect that minoxidil is responsible for your bad skin quality since its a vasodilator which makes you retain water, look bloated and puffy. If youre not suffering from hair loss and using it for eye brows or beard, I'd suggest you to quit it and just use tret.

For someone with no acne, or even mild acne you can use tret thrice or twice a week since retinoic acid will still be inside your skin in the break days.

I will have to do more research but I suspect that a healthy amount of tanning your body in the sun is good for you and does not damage skin health. Modern seed-oil diets and sun exposure may be what is the problem with skin damage from the sun. Boatloads of carnivore anecdotes that dont get sunburn anymore etc. and dont even use sunscreen. But again I have not researched it deeply. Anthropologically it doesnt make sense that we have to put chemicals on our face or hide from the sun like goblins. We coevolved with the sun.

I use minox on eyebrows to get them more denser/thicker. Since I started both topical skincare and minox at the same time I dont know the degree of effect from both. Maybe I need to stop it, but I also wanna get more dense eybrows. Although I have not noticed much improvement so far.

 

[Deleted member 25377]

A really cheap and effective way to get meat cooked for you is to go to a local Wendy's, or McDonalds, or any burger place and just ask them for only beef patties.

its fryed in seed oil

 

[brb7]

its fryed in seed oil

Nope

 

[bradpittshairline]

I will have to do more research but I suspect that a healthy amount of tanning your body in the sun is good for you and does not damage skin health. Modern seed-oil diets and sun exposure may be what is the problem with skin damage from the sun. Boatloads of carnivore anecdotes that dont get sunburn anymore etc. and dont even use sunscreen. But again I have not researched it deeply. Anthropologically it doesnt make sense that we have to put chemicals on our face or hide from the sun like goblins. We coevolved with the sun.

I use minox on eyebrows to get them more denser/thicker. Since I started both topical skincare and minox at the same time I dont know the degree of effect from both. Maybe I need to stop it, but I also wanna get more dense eybrows. Although I have not noticed much improvement so far.

well ive never gotten sunburnt since ive played in direct sunlight for hours and hours daily when i was a kid, but the only reason im going to start wearing sunscreen is due tot he risk of sun cancer and cosmetic aging of skin. If you take a molecular genetics class, youll quickly realize that sun rays cause damage to our DNA, now that damage can be harmless or in unlucky cases it can lead to a gene mutation which may cause tumors or cancers. 2 years back I'd say complain about the Ozone layer but luckily in recent times the Ozone layer is being replenished but in general, with pollution it is essential to wear sunscreen unlike our ancestors who had intact ozone layers protecting their skin.

For cosmetic reasons, sunlight is extremely damaging to your skin, you can look up anecdotes of white women who used sunscreen on face only where their neck is saggy and winkly with uneven pigmentation. Sun can fade color on outdoor walls, our skin isn't as robust so a sunscreen will act as a shield against sunlight while tretinoin keeps your skin cells healthy in terms of UV damage and virtually every cosmetic problem including severe acne

 

[brb7]

well ive never gotten sunburnt since ive played in direct sunlight for hours and hours daily when i was a kid, but the only reason im going to start wearing sunscreen is due tot he risk of sun cancer and cosmetic aging of skin. If you take a molecular genetics class, youll quickly realize that sun rays cause damage to our DNA, now that damage can be harmless or in unlucky cases it can lead to a gene mutation which may cause tumors or cancers. 2 years back I'd say complain about the Ozone layer but luckily in recent times the Ozone layer is being replenished but in general, with pollution it is essential to wear sunscreen unlike our ancestors who had intact ozone layers protecting their skin.

For cosmetic reasons, sunlight is extremely damaging to your skin, you can look up anecdotes of white women who used sunscreen on face only where their neck is saggy and winkly with uneven pigmentation. Sun can fade color on outdoor walls, our skin isn't as robust so a sunscreen will act as a shield against sunlight while tretinoin keeps your skin cells healthy in terms of UV damage and virtually every cosmetic problem including severe acne

thanks, I will research the topics of tretinoin and sun-induced skin aging extensively in the future

For now I'm stopping all topical skincare and will go beef only carni (cutting out dairy)

Edit:
Also, your skin cells are made up out of what nutrition you consumed over the prior weeks. Thats it.

 

[brb7]

Will leave this here

 

[bradpittshairline]

thanks, I will research the topics of tretinoin and sun-induced skin aging extensively in the future

For now I'm stopping all topical skincare and will go beef only carni (cutting out dairy)

Edit:
Also, your skin cells are made up out of what nutrition you consumed over the prior weeks. Thats it.

Majority of my diet is meat and eggs however i dont buy the carnivore or vegan diet. Seems like BS, i prefer a common diet.

And you're right skin cells are made of DNA which is basically protein but those skin cells wont survive against sunlight in the long term when it comes to cosmetic aging. To prevent wrinkles, skin sagging and other age related cosmetic issues topical skin care is essential. I'm a hypocrite because i dont use sunscreen myself but I'll start ASAP as I'm on tret for acne

 

[Deleted member 24770]

how long did it take for u to see good results

1 month

 

[Lord&Master]

I will have to do more research but I suspect that a healthy amount of tanning your body in the sun is good for you and does not damage skin health. Modern seed-oil diets and sun exposure may be what is the problem with skin damage from the sun. Boatloads of carnivore anecdotes that dont get sunburn anymore etc. and dont even use sunscreen. But again I have not researched it deeply. Anthropologically it doesnt make sense that we have to put chemicals on our face or hide from the sun like goblins. We coevolved with the sun.

I use minox on eyebrows to get them more denser/thicker. Since I started both topical skincare and minox at the same time I dont know the degree of effect from both. Maybe I need to stop it, but I also wanna get more dense eybrows. Although I have not noticed much improvement so far.

Anecdotally I never burn on carnivore even as a really pale cumskin that barely goes outside.

I heard from carnivore YouTubers that say sunlight speeds up skin healing, which might be true, but I'm worried about sun exposure after surgery. Surgeons always say to avoid the sun a few weeks after surgery to prevent hyperpigmentation of the incisions lines they make. While the surgery sites will heal quicker possibly, I don't want to risk hyperpigmentation of the area. You know what I mean?