Any no cope method for height growth?

[Digoldy]

Hello everyone. I'm 18 years old (I'll be 19 in a month) and am 182 cm or 5'11" tall. I'd like to know what height-increasing options, other than surgery, exist if: 1) my growth plates are open; 2) my growth plates are closed. My growth plates are likely already closed, but are there any steroids/hormones/peptides or other medications that can help me grow even if my growth plates are closed? I've heard something about IGF-1, but I haven't fully understood it yet. Are there any knowledgeable people here who can help?
I also have a younger brother who is 16. Please tell me what methods are available for him to increase his height. From safe ones to those with the highest risks.

 

[Niebvll]

1) too lazy to list them all but goes way beyond muh hgh+ai and fgfr(3) inhib 2) none

 

[ropemaxxer00]

Hgh

 

[Greenguy]

Hgh

Yo who tf planted hgh in yalls brain

 

[Greenguy]

Hello everyone. I'm 18 years old (I'll be 19 in a month) and am 182 cm or 5'11" tall. I'd like to know what height-increasing options, other than surgery, exist if: 1) my growth plates are open; 2) my growth plates are closed. My growth plates are likely already closed, but are there any steroids/hormones/peptides or other medications that can help me grow even if my growth plates are closed? I've heard something about IGF-1, but I haven't fully understood it yet. Are there any knowledgeable people here who can help?
I also have a younger brother who is 16. Please tell me what methods are available for him to increase his height. From safe ones to those with the highest risks.

There are a lot of ways to grow. I am not feeling like providing them today but ill say one, mechanical loading. If utilised correctly u can grow a lil bit using it, and NO it isnt fucking wolffs law or sum shit like that.

 

[ropemaxxer00]

Yo who tf planted hgh in yalls brain

Are you serious?

 

[Greenguy]

Are you serious?

Yes I have done enough research to know that hgh is overrated asf and might stunt final height. I won't provide the studies for you because it seems like it wouldnt benefit you. Do your research, look at mice and human studies, read closely compare with other treatments. Good luck gng.

 

[ropemaxxer00]

Yes I have done enough research to know that hgh is overrated asf and might stunt final height. I won't provide the studies for you because it seems like it wouldnt benefit you. Do your research, look at mice and human studies, read closely compare with other treatments. Good luck gng.

Okay. Rhgh doesnt impact final height potential, but it brings you closer to it. Imagine your genetics say “yup this dude can be 186cm, no more”. Naturally, you would almost certainly not reach that, because you would need perfect life circumstances to do that. Rhgh on the other hand, actively brings you closer by accelerating growth in the femur. So if naturally you wouldve just hit 180cm, you can hit 183cm with rhgh

 

[BronzeAlligator1]

check growth plates and if they re closed its
over

 

[Greenguy]

Okay. Rhgh doesnt impact final height potential, but it brings you closer to it. Imagine your genetics say “yup this dude can be 186cm, no more”. Naturally, you would almost certainly not reach that, because you would need perfect life circumstances to do that. Rhgh on the other hand, actively brings you closer by accelerating growth in the femur. So if naturally you wouldve just hit 180cm, you can hit 183cm with rhgh

You have better options and no hgh wont do that in the way you think. rHGH will deplete your stem cells and cause suppresion of DNA repair. SOOO many better options that will even make u exceed ur final height yet yall are insisting on rHGH. I have done a fuck ton of research the last 7 months and I can say that you can do a fuck ton to your height if ur plates are open. And no I am not talking about fgfr3 inhibitors even though they might work a good bit. I am talking about serious ways to grow taller gng. Please please please stop telling people to take rHGH, so many people are falling for it and thinking oh yeah I am growing now. It increased ur growth velocity but no real effects on final height. Same goes for people using oxandrolone for height.

 

[ropemaxxer00]

It increased ur growth velocity but no real effects on final height.

I never said it did and you cannot change final height potential

 

[Greenguy]

I never said it did and you cannot change final height potential

Sure... You said it brings u closer to it. And you cannot change ur final height potential is absolute bullshit depending on what u mean. With the correct compounds ull exceed it.

 

[ropemaxxer00]

You have better options and no hgh wont do that in the way you think. rHGH will deplete your stem cells and cause suppresion of DNA repair. SOOO many better options that will even make u exceed ur final height yet yall are insisting on rHGH. I have done a fuck ton of research the last 7 months and I can say that you can do a fuck ton to your height if ur plates are open. And no I am not talking about fgfr3 inhibitors even though they might work a good bit. I am talking about serious ways to grow taller gng. Please please please stop telling people to take rHGH, so many people are falling for it and thinking oh yeah I am growing now. It increased ur growth velocity but no real effects on final height. Same goes for people using oxandrolone for height.

the claim that rhgh has ‘no real effects on final height’ isn’t accurate. multiple randomized studies, meta-analyses, and long-term follow-ups (including in idiopathic short stature / non-gh deficient kids) show it does increase adult height on average by ~3-7+ cm depending on starting age, dose, and duration. it’s not just temporary velocity-it improves predicted and achieved final height when plates are still open. fda approved it for iss for this reason.
the stem cell depletion and dna repair stuff comes from some recent preclinical/high-dose/excess gh studies. those are real mechanisms to be cautious about (especially with supraphysiological doses), but clinical data in monitored therapeutic use hasn’t shown major long-term harm in the approved populations.
here are my sources:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17636758/

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-abstract/93/11/4342/2627258?

 

[ropemaxxer00]

Sure... You said it brings u closer to it. And you cannot change ur final height potential is absolute bullshit depending on what u mean. With the correct compounds ull exceed it.

Nope genetic height ceiling cannot be exceeded

 

[Greenguy]

the claim that rhgh has ‘no real effects on final height’ isn’t accurate. multiple randomized studies, meta-analyses, and long-term follow-ups (including in idiopathic short stature / non-gh deficient kids) show it does increase adult height on average by ~3-7+ cm depending on starting age, dose, and duration. it’s not just temporary velocity-it improves predicted and achieved final height when plates are still open. fda approved it for iss for this reason.
the stem cell depletion and dna repair stuff comes from some recent preclinical/high-dose/excess gh studies. those are real mechanisms to be cautious about (especially with supraphysiological doses), but clinical data in monitored therapeutic use hasn’t shown major long-term harm in the approved populations.
here are my sources:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17636758/

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-abstract/93/11/4342/2627258?

Good argument tbh mirin

 

[Greenguy]

Nope genetic height ceiling cannot be exceeded

Ill agree to disagree on that. I am on a experimental stack, ill see what happens.

 

[ropemaxxer00]

Ill agree to disagree on that. I am on a experimental stack, ill see what happens.

Its simply not possible mate

 

[just_foidslayer]

hgh and sleep 9hr

 

[sigmahightest]

fix anterior pelvic tilt if you have it

 

[Zagro]

Nope genetic height ceiling cannot be exceeded

There's no genetic height ceiling, before you start barking send any evidence if you beg to differ

 

[ropemaxxer00]

There's no genetic height ceiling, before you start barking send any evidence if you beg to differ

I am willing to debate

Is height determined by genetics?: MedlinePlus Genetics

Inherited gene variants play a large role in determining height. Other factors like nutrition and health can also impact how tall a child will be as an adult.

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How much of human height is genetic and how much is due to nutrition?

Molecular biologist Chao-Qiang Lai of the Jean Mayer U.S. Department of Agriculture Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging at Tufts University answers

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[Zagro]

I am willing to debate

Is height determined by genetics?: MedlinePlus Genetics

Inherited gene variants play a large role in determining height. Other factors like nutrition and health can also impact how tall a child will be as an adult.

medlineplus.gov

How much of human height is genetic and how much is due to nutrition?

Molecular biologist Chao-Qiang Lai of the Jean Mayer U.S. Department of Agriculture Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging at Tufts University answers

www.scientificamerican.com

The genetics of height | Medicover Genetics

Prospective parents often wonder what their child will look like. What eye or hair color will they have? Will they look more like them or their partner? Among t...

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1. "FGFR3 gene" = FGFR3 inhibitors

2. "human growth hormone treatments can remedy such growth defects." = Exogenous hGH

3. "characterized by short stature and caused by variants in the FGFR3 gene" & "another congenital disorder that can cause short stature is known as Turner syndrome." & "Children who develop hypothyroidism (low thyroid) or pituitary gland disorders may experience shorter than average height compared to their parents." & "These include thyroid hormones, human growth hormones, and sex hormones such as testosterone and estrogen." = Exogenous non-aromatising androgens, aromatase inhibitors, exogenous hGH, FGFR3 inhibitors, exogenous thyroid hormones.

Do not repeat the "there's "x" amount of genes, these will only impact a few!" genes are all linked to eachother, if you intervene with the most important ones and the biggest negative regulators of longitudinal growth, you will have a big impact on final height.

 

[ropemaxxer00]

1. "FGFR3 gene" = FGFR3 inhibitors

2. "human growth hormone treatments can remedy such growth defects." = Exogenous hGH

3. "characterized by short stature and caused by variants in the FGFR3 gene" & "another congenital disorder that can cause short stature is known as Turner syndrome." & "Children who develop hypothyroidism (low thyroid) or pituitary gland disorders may experience shorter than average height compared to their parents." & "These include thyroid hormones, human growth hormones, and sex hormones such as testosterone and estrogen." = Exogenous non-aromatising androgens, aromatase inhibitors, exogenous hGH, FGFR3 inhibitors, exogenous thyroid hormones.

Do not repeat the "there's "x" amount of genes, these will only impact a few!" genes are all linked to eachother, if you intervene with the most important ones and the biggest negative regulators of longitudinal growth, you will have a big impact on final height.

I agree on every single one of these points but I think there is a misunderstanding present, i didn’t say you couldn’t change final height, i said you cannot exceed your growth potential ceiling. You can absolutely with the named measures influence how talk you will get, but only within the Genetic frame. The examples you cite are treatments for specific deficiencies or disorders, not evidence that we can routinely shatter a genetic height ceiling in healthy people. They correct impairments to let someone approach (or sometimes reach) their own genetic potential, not exceed the upper bounds set by their polygenic architecture in a normal, optimized environment.

 

[Zagro]

I agree on every single one of these points but I think there is a misunderstanding present, i didn’t say you couldn’t change final height, i said you cannot exceed your growth potential ceiling. You can absolutely with the named measures influence how talk you will get, but only within the Genetic frame. The examples you cite are treatments for specific deficiencies or disorders, not evidence that we can routinely shatter a genetic height ceiling in healthy people. They correct impairments to let someone approach (or sometimes reach) their own genetic potential, not exceed the upper bounds set by their polygenic architecture in a normal, optimized environment.

"The examples you cite are treatments for specific deficiencies or disorders"

We have evidence of them surpassing their predicted adult height aswell, we also have wild-type mice experiencing more growth compared to control on such compounds. Them having a deficiency or a morbidity is also genetic thus we're changing their genes, as otherwise will their problems solve naturally?

You can influence the rate of chondrocyte proliferation, you can delay epiphyseal fusion, you can modify differentiation, you can change almost everything gene related; sensitivity, expression anything receptor related or ligand related like there's nothing you cant change. If you inhibit ERa 100% and have 0pg/dl estrogen and no precursors for estrogen/substrates locally etc like a zero T state, you will probably delay fusion by multiple years.

 

[ropemaxxer00]

"The examples you cite are treatments for specific deficiencies or disorders"

We have evidence of them surpassing their predicted adult height aswell, we also have wild-type mice experiencing more growth compared to control on such compounds. Them having a deficiency or a morbidity is also genetic thus we're changing their genes, as otherwise will their problems solve naturally?

You can influence the rate of chondrocyte proliferation, you can delay epiphyseal fusion, you can modify differentiation, you can change almost everything gene related; sensitivity, expression anything receptor related or ligand related like there's nothing you cant change. If you inhibit ERa 100% and have 0pg/dl estrogen and no precursors for estrogen/substrates locally etc like a zero T state, you will probably delay fusion by multiple years.

While some interventions can modestly extend growth windows by delaying fusion or boosting proliferation, a practical ceuling still exists due to inherent biological limits in chondrocyte senescence, bone architecture, and systemic constraints that no current modulation fully overrides. An extended growth window doesn’t mean you can surpass your genetic height ceiling, it just brings you closer to it. Predictions are often imprecise so apparent surpassing happens but true genetic potential isn’t infinitely elastic, even in wild-type models where gains plateau. Deficiencies beimg genetic doesn’t mean we can rewrite unlimited growth potential as hard physiological walls remain. Extreme estrogen ablation like zeroing ERa signaling might delay fusion but doesn’t guarantee years of proportional linear growth as the growth plate still exhausts over time.

 

[Zagro]

While some interventions can modestly extend growth windows by delaying fusion or boosting proliferation, a practical ceuling still exists due to inherent biological limits in chondrocyte senescence, bone architecture, and systemic constraints that no current modulation fully overrides. An extended growth window doesn’t mean you can surpass your genetic height ceiling, it just brings you closer to it. Predictions are often imprecise so apparent surpassing happens but true genetic potential isn’t infinitely elastic, even in wild-type models where gains plateau. Deficiencies beimg genetic doesn’t mean we can rewrite unlimited growth potential as hard physiological walls remain. Extreme estrogen ablation like zeroing ERa signaling might delay fusion but doesn’t guarantee years of proportional linear growth as the growth plate still exhausts over time.

You're either autistic or using artificial intelligence and rewriting it, the latter is most likely to be the case here as you're nitpicking at the comments i make.

Extended growth window means more chondrocytes have time to proliferate and the pool in that zone will increase tremendously, chondrocytes are what make up growth so more chondrocytes will mean more growth, if you argue against this i will just leave the convo righteously so

 

[ropemaxxer00]

You're either autistic or using artificial intelligence and rewriting it, the latter is most likely to be the case here as you're nitpicking at the comments i make.

Extended growth window means more chondrocytes have time to proliferate and the pool in that zone will increase tremendously, chondrocytes are what make up growth so more chondrocytes will mean more growth, if you argue against this i will just leave the convo righteously so

Okay, nice talking to you. Can you follow back you seem knowledgeable