any tips on surgery?

[Steingrímu Björn]

currently only 16 but plan on getting the following procedures when i turn 18:
-rhinoplasty (remove bulbous tip and reduce nasal bridge size).
-fat grafting under my eyes for my tear trough
-commisuroplasty for my narrow lips and then use every scar treatment known to man
-wraparound jaw implants to get a ideal bigonial width and also to increase angularity as that’s my main flaw
-otoplasty for my ears
-botox on my masseters and frontalis muscle
-aqualyx on my buccal region and malar region

tbh getting all of these things done looks really possible in just 1 surgery. currently have my eyes on eppley to be my surgeon as he offers commisuroplasty (i think so) and will probably use giant as the designer for the jaw wraparound implant. here is what i look like and i just wish to know your guys feedback and also what i could possibly ascend to if all goes well. also wish to know if you guys think i should get any other surgeries.

 

[geenk worg]

You're gonna botch yourself kid. get off this forum.

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

You're gonna botch yourself kid. get off this forum.

all these surgeries are safe, except the commisuroplasty

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

bump

 

[Kira@]

you dont need commisuroplasty or rhino.

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

you dont need commisuroplasty or rhino.

yes i do lmao my nose to lip is pretty bad, my nasal tip and bridge is bulbous, and my lips aren’t even as wide as my ipd

 

[moltisantichincel]

@lurking truecel

 

[moltisantichincel]

wait on the jaw implants, 16 your not done developing and its a minor failo, gonions and angularity come with age and, if you will later on, don't get a wraparound jaw implant , they will make your face looks bloated giant doesn't even plan them, jaw Angeles are always better less risky too. I still wouldn't even get them. you might also just find yourself a girl in the next two years and forget about all of this anyway not trying to discourage surgery, but just something to consider , so just don't take it too seriously as your already a good looking guy im not against doing the procedures but in your case it theres no reason to stress over this. you need to understand that you are still worthy of love without these surgeries. I am shceduld to get trimax with implants by late 2026 in italy and initially once I started planning I spiraled into believing that I was not good enough without these procedures which for me isn't the case and for you its even less of a case. Reply prolly tl welp.

 

[lurking truecel]

Rhino and then not anything, even fat graft is totally useless right now for you

 

[AustrianMogger]

currently only 16 but plan on getting the following procedures when i turn 18:
-rhinoplasty (remove bulbous tip and reduce nasal bridge size).
-fat grafting under my eyes for my tear trough
-commisuroplasty for my narrow lips and then use every scar treatment known to man
-wraparound jaw implants to get a ideal bigonial width and also to increase angularity as that’s my main flaw
-otoplasty for my ears
-botox on my masseters and frontalis muscle
-aqualyx on my buccal region and malar region

tbh getting all of these things done looks really possible in just 1 surgery. currently have my eyes on eppley to be my surgeon as he offers commisuroplasty (i think so) and will probably use giant as the designer for the jaw wraparound implant. here is what i look like and i just wish to know your guys feedback and also what i could possibly ascend to if all goes well. also wish to know if you guys think i should get any other surgeries.

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Do all of that except the jaw impalnts. Get a Mini chin wing any maybe try to get bigonal width else.

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

wait on the jaw implants, 16 your not done developing and its a minor failo, gonions and angularity come with age and, if you will later on, don't get a wraparound jaw implant , they will make your face looks bloated giant doesn't even plan them, jaw Angeles are always better less risky too. I still wouldn't even get them. you might also just find yourself a girl in the next two years and forget about all of this anyway not trying to discourage surgery, but just something to consider , so just don't take it too seriously as your already a good looking guy im not against doing the procedures but in your case it theres no reason to stress over this. you need to understand that you are still worthy of love without these surgeries. I am shceduld to get trimax with implants by late 2026 in italy and initially once I started planning I spiraled into believing that I was not good enough without these procedures which for me isn't the case and for you its even less of a case. Reply prolly tl welp.

i cant even find any jaw wraparound implants lol so ill take your word for it. i dont have issues with female but i js want to be undeniably attractive to any person who sees me, im located in nyc which is very competitive and i want to become the best looking man in nyc LMAO maybe that’s cope but it’s some sort of hope. main issue is that i hate what i see in the mirror so that’s a big factor also. also would jaw angle implants really increase my bigonial width and also increase angularity by a good amount? if thats the case ill get those with a chin implant

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

Do all of that except the jaw impalnts. Get a Mini chin wing any maybe try to get bigonal width else.

why a mini chin wing my issue isn’t projection of the mandible or chin just the angularity

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

Rhino and then not anything, even fat graft is totally useless right now for you

why do you think that?

 

[AustrianMogger]

why a mini chin wing my issue isn’t projection of the mandible or chin just the angularity

you are recessed in none frauded side. you look up in the side and you could benefit from more veticalitly.
Also chin wing or genio can create more angularity

 

[Cinnamon fan64]

currently only 16 but plan on getting the following procedures when i turn 18:
-rhinoplasty (remove bulbous tip and reduce nasal bridge size).
-fat grafting under my eyes for my tear trough
-commisuroplasty for my narrow lips and then use every scar treatment known to man
-wraparound jaw implants to get a ideal bigonial width and also to increase angularity as that’s my main flaw
-otoplasty for my ears
-botox on my masseters and frontalis muscle
-aqualyx on my buccal region and malar region

tbh getting all of these things done looks really possible in just 1 surgery. currently have my eyes on eppley to be my surgeon as he offers commisuroplasty (i think so) and will probably use giant as the designer for the jaw wraparound implant. here is what i look like and i just wish to know your guys feedback and also what i could possibly ascend to if all goes well. also wish to know if you guys think i should get any other surgeries.

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u dont need fat grafting in the under eyes, the tear trough is very minimal to ideal and it may appear different from lighting to lighting
commissuroplasty also no, the mouth width is ideal, the mouth to nose ratio is unideal due to the nose being wide not the the mouth being narrow
u could get upper lip reduction and lower lip fat grafting cuz the lip proportions are unideal due to the upper being too full compared to the lower lip, u can see how the upper lip is fuller then the lower lip which is unideal and feminine

 

[Cinnamon fan64]

 

[jester]

currently only 16 but plan on getting the following procedures when i turn 18:
-rhinoplasty (remove bulbous tip and reduce nasal bridge size).
-fat grafting under my eyes for my tear trough
-commisuroplasty for my narrow lips and then use every scar treatment known to man
-wraparound jaw implants to get a ideal bigonial width and also to increase angularity as that’s my main flaw
-otoplasty for my ears
-botox on my masseters and frontalis muscle
-aqualyx on my buccal region and malar region

tbh getting all of these things done looks really possible in just 1 surgery. currently have my eyes on eppley to be my surgeon as he offers commisuroplasty (i think so) and will probably use giant as the designer for the jaw wraparound implant. here is what i look like and i just wish to know your guys feedback and also what i could possibly ascend to if all goes well. also wish to know if you guys think i should get any other surgeries.

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realistically you only need rhino, otoplasty and commisuroplasty (not even to make the mouth wider but to make the corners straight)

 

[Aqualad]

Nigga dont listen to anyone in these replies get every fucking surgery you mentioned you have a good base to get to top 99 percentile with surgery

 

[moltisantichincel]

i cant even find any jaw wraparound implants lol so ill take your word for it. i dont have issues with female but i js want to be undeniably attractive to any person who sees me, im located in nyc which is very competitive and i want to become the best looking man in nyc LMAO maybe that’s cope but it’s some sort of hope. main issue is that i hate what i see in the mirror so that’s a big factor also. also would jaw angle implants really increase my bigonial width and also increase angularity by a good amount? if thats the case ill get those with a chin implant

the best way to do it imo and how im doing it is angle implants at the gonion and ramus, to slightly increase height and bigonial width and pair that with a genioplasty. but im also pairing this with bimax so I don't know anyone else than probably pagnoni or giant that will do this for you without performing a bimax simultaneously and also I get that not everyone wants to just get a osteotomy for their chin a chin implant is obviously less invasive. You say that you are considering eppley, I would discuss with him on what's best for you. In terms of your goals it makes more sense then, Im moving to Hollywood in a couple of years and also need to look my best . so yeah fuck it get them but has to be well thought out obv

 

[Kira@]

yes i do lmao my nose to lip is pretty bad, my nasal tip and bridge is bulbous, and my lips aren’t even as wide as my ipd

You don't have a bulbous nose your nose is simply not defined. Bulbous tip is when the tissue around your nose sticks out compared to the rest of your nose, your tip blends in with the rest of your nose. If you try to define your nasal tip through a tip plasty you run the risk of it looking unnatural since your nose is already narrow. I just don't see enough reason to actually do it even if it turns out looking alright you won't look much better.

I don't view getting surgery as trying to fix every single falio no matter how small. People on this forum treat getting surgery like it's going shopping. Mostly due to really unfortunate looking people coping themselves into thinking if they get 20 surgeries they'll become good looking, truth is good looking people are mostly born not made(exceptions mainly come from high ROI surgeries like genio, bimax, and rhinos and obviously for people that actually needed it). You realistically want to have as many few surgeries as possible and focus on surgeries that have good ROI for you. For every surgery you get you run the risk of looking worse and uncanny plus the downtime and the money you have to spend.

You are already good looking which means the ROI for any surgery is gonna be a lot lower than a bad looking person. So you should only focus on surgery's that are pretty safe and carry low risks as you have more to lose if anything goes wrong. otoplasty has a good ROI for you. Yea you're mouth is narrower than your IPD which is a falio but its not that bad just a few mm's. I actually don't think commissuroplasty is high risk since it would be hard to fuck up. You could do it but I won't recommend it because I've never seen before and after results without scarring. Also what I mostly notice about your mouth isn't how narrow it is but actually how weirdly shaped your top lip is if really anything around your mouth is making your looks go down its that I'm not sure if there's a fix for that though. And as for the implants oh boy. Implants are probably one of the most common things recommended to people but has some of the worst results I've ever seen I think I've only seen one good implant result which is this one

I've unironically seen better results with fillers than implants. Also thinking about implants while being 16 is wild, yea your main falio is your lack of angularity but your face isn't even done developing. The best ascensions you'll see is pretty much only on tik tok which is people's befores who looked like you do now, harmonious but lacking angularity which could be due to baby fat or not being lean and then them just growing up and getting leaner and boom angularity. So you shouldn't consider implants until your at least done developing around your 20s just my opinion

I dont have issues with female but i js want to be undeniably attractive to any person who sees me, im located in nyc which is very competitive and i want to become the best looking man in nyc LMAO maybe that’s cope but it’s some sort of hope. main issue is that i hate what i see in the mirror so that’s a big factor also.

You're never gonna be the best looking man in nyc, there will always be someone who's better looking no matter what, that applies to everyone and thats alright everyone should strive for being good looking not the best looking. If you get surgeries expecting you're gonna look perfect afterwards then you're just dooming yourself. No one would find you ugly. If you hate looking at yourself in the mirror then you have pretty bad body dysmorphia since you're above average in looks.

Up to you what you wanna do just my opinion

TLDR: Don't get implants or rhino and I dont recommend getting commisuroplasty

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

you are recessed in none frauded side. you look up in the side and you could benefit from more veticalitly.
Also chin wing or genio can create more angularity

why tf would i fraud my side LMAO my side picture is taken with me being turned all the way to the right and looking forward NOT up, taken by a good quality camera. i’m not recessed lmao

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

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mirin the effort what did you morph/change?

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

u dont need fat grafting in the under eyes, the tear trough is very minimal to ideal and it may appear different from lighting to lighting
commissuroplasty also no, the mouth width is ideal, the mouth to nose ratio is unideal due to the nose being wide not the the mouth being narrow
u could get upper lip reduction and lower lip fat grafting cuz the lip proportions are unideal due to the upper being too full compared to the lower lip, u can see how the upper lip is fuller then the lower lip which is unideal and feminine

the width of my nostrils is aligned with my medial canthus, the tip itself is just actually bulbous and so is the nasal bridge, if it’s not bulbous then it’s just a big nasal tip and bridge

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

realistically you only need rhino, otoplasty and commisuroplasty (not even to make the mouth wider but to make the corners straight)

realistically that is, objectively no one needs surgery but i want to look as good as possible and rhino, otoplasty, and commisuroplasty are all my failos but my angularity is also a failo

 

[Cinnamon fan64]

mirin the effort what did you morph/change?

The nose the eyebrows, made the face less compact, reduced the upper lip fullness and increased the lower lip fullness, made the canthal tilt higher
Pinned back the ears
And some other minor stuff

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

The nose the eyebrows, made the face less compact, reduced the upper lip fullness and increased the lower lip fullness, made the canthal tilt higher
Pinned back the ears
And some other minor stuff

assuming getting to this level isn’t possible because of midface elongation and canthal tilt

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

the best way to do it imo and how im doing it is angle implants at the gonion and ramus, to slightly increase height and bigonial width and pair that with a genioplasty. but im also pairing this with bimax so I don't know anyone else than probably pagnoni or giant that will do this for you without performing a bimax simultaneously and also I get that not everyone wants to just get a osteotomy for their chin a chin implant is obviously less invasive. You say that you are considering eppley, I would discuss with him on what's best for you. In terms of your goals it makes more sense then, Im moving to Hollywood in a couple of years and also need to look my best . so yeah fuck it get them but has to be well thought out obv

dont think a 16 year old can consult a plastic surgeon without his parents, secondly since i cant ask him anything rn i consult the forums so that as soon as i turn 18 i can get the operation.

 

[Cinnamon fan64]

assuming getting to this level isn’t possible because of midface elongation and canthal tilt

U can fix the canthal tilt with lateral canthoplasty

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

You don't have a bulbous nose your nose is simply not defined. Bulbous tip is when the tissue around your nose sticks out compared to the rest of your nose, your tip blends in with the rest of your nose. If you try to define your nasal tip through a tip plasty you run the risk of it looking unnatural since your nose is already narrow. I just don't see enough reason to actually do it even if it turns out looking alright you won't look much better.
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I don't view getting surgery as trying to fix every single falio no matter how small. People on this forum treat getting surgery like it's going shopping. Mostly due to really unfortunate looking people coping themselves into thinking if they get 20 surgeries they'll become good looking, truth is good looking people are mostly born not made(exceptions mainly come from high ROI surgeries like genio, bimax, and rhinos and obviously for people that actually needed it). You realistically want to have as many few surgeries as possible and focus on surgeries that have good ROI for you. For every surgery you get you run the risk of looking worse and uncanny plus the downtime and the money you have to spend.

You are already good looking which means the ROI for any surgery is gonna be a lot lower than a bad looking person. So you should only focus on surgery's that are pretty safe and carry low risks as you have more to lose if anything goes wrong. otoplasty has a good ROI for you. Yea you're mouth is narrower than your IPD which is a falio but its not that bad just a few mm's. I actually don't think commissuroplasty is high risk since it would be hard to fuck up. You could do it but I won't recommend it because I've never seen before and after results without scarring. Also what I mostly notice about your mouth isn't how narrow it is but actually how weirdly shaped your top lip is if really anything around your mouth is making your looks go down its that I'm not sure if there's a fix for that though. And as for the implants oh boy. Implants are probably one of the most common things recommended to people but has some of the worst results I've ever seen I think I've only seen one good implant result which is this one
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I've unironically seen better results with fillers than implants. Also thinking about implants while being 16 is wild, yea your main falio is your lack of angularity but your face isn't even done developing. The best ascensions you'll see is pretty much only on tik tok which is people's befores who looked like you do now, harmonious but lacking angularity which could be due to baby fat or not being lean and then them just growing up and getting leaner and boom angularity. So you shouldn't consider implants until your at least done developing around your 20s just my opinion

You're never gonna be the best looking man in nyc, there will always be someone who's better looking no matter what, that applies to everyone and thats alright everyone should strive for being good looking not the best looking. If you get surgeries expecting you're gonna look perfect afterwards then you're just dooming yourself. No one would find you ugly. If you hate looking at yourself in the mirror then you have pretty bad body dysmorphia since you're above average in looks.

Up to you what you wanna do just my opinion

TLDR: Don't get implants or rhino and I dont recommend getting commisuroplasty

don’t worry i read every molecule.

my nasal tip quite literally is wider then my nostrils so if that’s not bulbous idk what is.

yeah sure my mouth might not be THAT narrow but it certainly messed up my nose to lip ratio which brings down harmony a lot, also my lips themself are pretty unideal as my upper lip is thicker, the corners aren’t defined, and its narrow. i’m ok with scarring only because three actual solutions out there for scarring and i’m sure the scars will be gone if i take the correct steps.


as for implants i think you’re entirely incorrect as just look at bradd pit because he had jaw angle implants, we can judge from clav soon as he is also getting implants. i assume barret also got jaw angle implants. why you might think they look bad is because people go way over board.

just looking at my dad, mother, brother i can tell being that angular isn’t within our genetic profiles. only time can tell however tho.

 

[Acquiescence]

Money. You’re gonna need money. Tens and tens of thousands. Start saving NOW

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

U can fix the canthal tilt with lateral canthoplasty

is my current canthal tilt unideal or would canthoplasty just make it significantly better

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

Money. You’re gonna need money. Tens and tens of thousands. Start saving NOW

we all need to save for surgery brother

 

[Cinnamon fan64]

is my current canthal tilt unideal or would canthoplasty just make it significantly better

May vary from photo to photo
In that pic it looks slightly unideal, i don't think u should worry bout it, it might be even ideal

 

[Kira@]

don’t worry i read every molecule.

W

my nasal tip quite literally is wider then my nostrils so if that’s not bulbous idk what is.

Well to be bulbous it needs to stick out compared to the rest of the nose like this

 

[Kira@]

as for implants i think you’re entirely incorrect as just look at bradd pit because he had jaw angle implants

I mean is there any proof of this or is this speculation?

we can judge from clav soon as he is also getting implants. i assume barret also got jaw angle implants.

Clavs never gonna get implants, its been delayed multiple times and he apparently was supposed to get it before thanksgiving and never got it. He realized now that he developed a huge following because he's good looking, that if he ends up looking worse afterwards either due to complications or it just looking bad he'll either have to not show himself ever again or if he does then he'll just be forever laughed at by everyone and lose his following regardless. Clav is also confirmed severely autistic

Though i would be lying if i said I wasn't hoping he actually got the surgery to see if he looks better. There's just not a good case for implants at all maybe it will change in the future

 

[nishka]

he will get them bro
trust

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

I mean is there any proof of this or is this speculation?

i’m such a idiot i meant to say tom cruise lmao but just look at his jaw width before and after

 

[Kira@]

i’m such a idiot i meant to say tom cruise lmao but just look at his jaw width before and after View attachment 4440052

Yea it looks like he got something done but its still speculation. When you look at confirmed results of jaw implants a lot of them look unnatural. Yea you're right that a lot of people go overboard but I've seen results where the actual size looks fine and it just has an odd shape or is unnaturally too straight. Have you ever thought of getting filler to increase bigonial width instead?

Also are those his natural teeth in the before? or were those for a movie or something lmao

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

Yea it looks like he got something done but its still speculation. When you look at confirmed results of jaw implants a lot of them look unnatural. Yea you're right that a lot of people go overboard but I've seen results where the actual size looks fine and it just has an odd shape or is unnaturally too straight. Have you ever thought of getting filler to increase bigonial width instead?

i mean filler migrates and will make you a chipmunk when it does migrate but as a temporary solution i have thought about it but knowing i have to redo it + it migrates js isn’t the most appealing to me

Also are those his natural teeth in the before? or were those for a movie or something lmao

yeah lmao those where his actual teeth thank god he fixed them

 

[Kira@]

i mean filler migrates and will make you a chipmunk when it does migrate but as a temporary solution i have thought about it but knowing i have to redo it + it migrates js isn’t the most appealing to me

this guy said that he got jaw fillers and that they look natural and apparently he said migration only happens if you don't follow certain rules he never clarified what those rules were though @Lefor3Laser

You should also see this thread if you want to get more information on jaw implants.

 

[infraorbidal]

currently only 16 but plan on getting the following procedures when i turn 18:
-rhinoplasty (remove bulbous tip and reduce nasal bridge size).
-fat grafting under my eyes for my tear trough
-commisuroplasty for my narrow lips and then use every scar treatment known to man
-wraparound jaw implants to get a ideal bigonial width and also to increase angularity as that’s my main flaw
-otoplasty for my ears
-botox on my masseters and frontalis muscle
-aqualyx on my buccal region and malar region

tbh getting all of these things done looks really possible in just 1 surgery. currently have my eyes on eppley to be my surgeon as he offers commisuroplasty (i think so) and will probably use giant as the designer for the jaw wraparound implant. here is what i look like and i just wish to know your guys feedback and also what i could possibly ascend to if all goes well. also wish to know if you guys think i should get any other surgeries.

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Commsuriaplasty for lateral width doesn’t exist
+ doctors don’t do it for cosmetic purposes

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

Commsuriaplasty for lateral width doesn’t exist
+ doctors don’t do it for cosmetic purposes

holy iqlet commisuroplasty is quite literally MADE to increase lateral width + eppley offers commisuroplasty + there’s a surgeon in spain who also offers commisuroplasty

 

[infraorbidal]

holy iqlet commisuroplasty is quite literally MADE to increase lateral width + eppley offers commisuroplasty + there’s a surgeon in spain who also offers commisuroplasty

Are you a fucking idiot?
Commisuroplasty is used to repair deformities and congenital issues like microstomia
Literally for people who can’t eat through their mouth
And eppley is highly criticized for his methods
Even patients on forums say Results were subtle Or didn’t match their expectations

I hope your surgeon fucks up and you rope you fucking cunt

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

Are you a fucking idiot?
Commisuroplasty is used to repair deformities and congenital issues like microstomia
Literally for people who can’t eat through their mouth
And eppley is highly criticized for his methods
Even patients on forums say Results were subtle Or didn’t match their expectations

yeah you’re further proving my point LMAO the point of commisuroplasty is to increase lateral width of the lips, microstomia is literally a small mouth deformity LMAO and guess what commisuroplasty does? it makes the lips wider so that the mouth can open, become functional, and normal. guess what happens in a commisuroplasty it makes the lips wider LATERALLY, how? but cutting the corners of the mouth to increase lip width and the size of the mouth

I hope your surgeon fucks up and you rope you fucking cunt

that’s mean eh

 

[infraorbidal]

yeah you’re further proving my point LMAO the point of commisuroplasty is to increase lateral width of the lips, microstomia is literally a small mouth deformity LMAO and guess what commisuroplasty does? it makes the lips wider so that the mouth can open, become functional, and normal. guess what happens in a commisuroplasty it makes the lips wider LATERALLY, how? but cutting the corners of the mouth to increase lip width and the size of the mouth

that’s mean eh

Sorry bro I got cortisol baited on 6siege
I hope the commisuroplasty goes well for you,gl bhai
I have somewhat narrow lips,their wider then my nose but wider would be ideal.

 

[Lefor3Laser]

this guy said that he got jaw fillers and that they look natural and apparently he said migration only happens if you don't follow certain rules he never clarified what those rules were though @Lefor3Laser

You should also see this thread if you want to get more information on jaw implants.

Eat soft food, don't touch the area, sleep on your back, take lukewarm showers and so on for 2 weeks, after it migraitons happen very hard if you get fillers that are hard.