any tips on surgery?

[iamgoingtoascend]

mirin the side profile brotha

Trust me, wait with getting some of these surgeries. My face looks pretty different from when I was 16 and I’m turning 19 now, primarily because of babyfat. Don’t do anything to your jaw until your around my age.

”I want to be the best looking man in nyc”
This mindset is IMO not the greatest. You should not seek perfection, but improvement. A lot of these surgeries are not going to make significant improvements in your appearance. For example, no rhino is needed your nose looks good bro especially from the side. Focus on major flaws, what actually matters. If a normie were to look at your face and not be able to tell a difference then it is pointless.

I’ll quickly go through the surgeries:

Rhino - not needed at all, your nose is fine

Fat grafting eyes - I think it is a bit overkill just softmaxx your undereyes. Your eyes actually look good. If you don’t believe me just cover the rest of your face except your upper third and you’ll see what I mean

Commisuroplasty - not too knowledgeable on this so I won’t comment

Wraparound jaw - no, dont get it right now. Wait until your like 18-20. Then you can start looking to alter your jaw if needed. Also not sure on a wraparound that sounds a bit overkill I think jaw angle would be better. Fillers could also work, as previously mentioned in this thread.

Otoplasty - yes 100%. You could even get this right now if you wanted to

Botox - once again a bit overkill I really see no need for it.

Aqualyx - no. You have babyfat I can literally see it. Just softmaxx and age. You will most likely be fine and not need aqualyx but if you do have stubborn fat pads after aging then yeah you could do it.

Also you haven’t mentioned palate width in this thread, if you do have a narrow palate then I would look into widining it right now. That can make your mouth wider as a side effect. Also a great thing to do right now as it will be very annoying to have to do it later on.

Yeah that’s basically it, gl brotha

 

[iamgoingtoascend]

Basically just age and lose babyfat, and then you can start looking at altering your lips and jaw if needed

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

Trust me, wait with getting some of these surgeries. My face looks pretty different from when I was 16 and I’m turning 19 now, primarily because of babyfat. Don’t do anything to your jaw until your around my age.

the only issue that i am really insecure about is that i don’t have hollow cheeks and that’s basically it and it bothers me because i can’t tell if my bone structure is bad or because i js have lots of baby fat

”I want to be the best looking man in nyc”
This mindset is IMO not the greatest. You should not seek perfection, but improvement. A lot of these surgeries are not going to make significant improvements in your appearance. For example, no rhino is needed your nose looks good bro especially from the side. Focus on major flaws, what actually matters. If a normie were to look at your face and not be able to tell a difference then it is pointless.

my nose to lip ratio is pretty bad and it’s not becuase of my nose, however with a rhinoplasty i want to reduce the nasal bridge size and remove the bulbous tip however some of this could be baby fat but i doubt it

Fat grafting eyes - I think it is a bit overkill just softmaxx your undereyes. Your eyes actually look good. If you don’t believe me just cover the rest of your face except your upper third and you’ll see what I mean

how would u suggest i soft max them i’ve been planning to diy a lash lift but nth more other then that. also if u zoom under my eyes you’ll see a tear drought

Wraparound jaw - no, dont get it right now. Wait until your like 18-20. Then you can start looking to alter your jaw if needed. Also not sure on a wraparound that sounds a bit overkill I think jaw angle would be better. Fillers could also work, as previously mentioned in this thread.

there’s no way on planet earth that my jaw will grow any more wider, my gonions are inverted which is a pretty bad and my jaw needs a lot of mm to be considered within the ideal so i doubt that my jaw will grow that much before the age of 20 and i’ve never seen it happen

Botox - once again a bit overkill I really see no need for it.

just for my masseters and frontalis

Aqualyx - no. You have babyfat I can literally see it. Just softmaxx and age. You will most likely be fine and not need aqualyx but if you do have stubborn fat pads after aging then yeah you could do it.

this is cope imo because look at bojack who is 17 and has hollow cheeks and very visible bone structure, could be because his bones mog mine or because the testosterone destroyed his baby fat pads

Also you haven’t mentioned palate width in this thread, if you do have a narrow palate then I would look into widining it right now. That can make your mouth wider as a side effect. Also a great thing to do right now as it will be very annoying to have to do it later on.

i have a 8 tooth smile, no sleeping issues (atleast related to breathing), no breathing issues, always nose breath

Yeah that’s basically it, gl brotha

appreciate it + mirin the effort

 

[iamgoingtoascend]

the only issue that i am really insecure about is that i don’t have hollow cheeks and that’s basically it and it bothers me because i can’t tell if my bone structure is bad or because i js have lots of baby fat

my nose to lip ratio is pretty bad and it’s not becuase of my nose, however with a rhinoplasty i want to reduce the nasal bridge size and remove the bulbous tip however some of this could be baby fat but i doubt it

how would u suggest i soft max them i’ve been planning to diy a lash lift but nth more other then that. also if u zoom under my eyes you’ll see a tear drought

there’s no way on planet earth that my jaw will grow any more wider, my gonions are inverted which is a pretty bad and my jaw needs a lot of mm to be considered within the ideal so i doubt that my jaw will grow that much before the age of 20 and i’ve never seen it happen

just for my masseters and frontalis

this is cope imo because look at bojack who is 17 and has hollow cheeks and very visible bone structure, could be because his bones mog mine or because the testosterone destroyed his baby fat pads

i have a 8 tooth smile, no sleeping issues (atleast related to breathing), no breathing issues, always nose breath

appreciate it + mirin the effort

I understand what your trying to say but doing most of these things at your current age is not a good idea. Sure otoplasty and some things you can do right now, but you should wait with most of the hardmaxxing stuff until your older.

Everybody is different and you shouldn’t do aqualyx and what not just because it worked on one other person your age.

I know that your jaw won’t magically grow wider, but when you lose that babyfat it will make a difference.

If I was you I would do this; softmaxx (diet, excercise, etc) for maybe 2 years. Look into getting otoplasty done right now if possible. And also, and this is very important, you need to put yourself in a position where you are prepared for hardmaxxing in the future. When your a bit older, say 18-20, that’s when you might want to get aqualyx, jaw augmentation, lip augmenting, aqualyx, etc. So yeah just get ready for that.

 

[justjutting]

10 years ago u would been a jb slayer but now ur a BDD ridden loser due to an excessive usage of social media

 

[geenk worg]

10 years ago u would been a jb slayer but now ur a BDD ridden loser due to an excessive usage of social media

true. that's fucked up.

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

10 years ago u would been a jb slayer but now ur a BDD ridden loser due to an excessive usage of social media

if i didn’t have bdd then i would have never discovered .org and would have never even ascended. my base was “ok” to say the least this is what i look after ascending and i don’t think i look good i just think i look “better” i have a long way to go in terms of looking a lot better and i think im already fully softmaxxed

 

[Steingrímu Björn]

I understand what your trying to say but doing most of these things at your current age is not a good idea. Sure otoplasty and some things you can do right now, but you should wait with most of the hardmaxxing stuff until your older.

Everybody is different and you shouldn’t do aqualyx and what not just because it worked on one other person your age.

I know that your jaw won’t magically grow wider, but when you lose that babyfat it will make a difference.

If I was you I would do this; softmaxx (diet, excercise, etc) for maybe 2 years. Look into getting otoplasty done right now if possible. And also, and this is very important, you need to put yourself in a position where you are prepared for hardmaxxing in the future. When your a bit older, say 18-20, that’s when you might want to get aqualyx, jaw augmentation, lip augmenting, aqualyx, etc. So yeah just get ready for that.

wouldn’t it just be a good idea to destroy my baby fat pads with aqualyx now?

 

[iamgoingtoascend]

if i didn’t have bdd then i would have never discovered .org and would have never even ascended. my base was “ok” to say the least this is what i look after ascending and i don’t think i look good i just think i look “better” i have a long way to go in terms of looking a lot better and i think im already fully softmaxxed

wouldn’t it just be a good idea to destroy my baby fat pads with aqualyx now?

No. Just keep softmaxxing. Trust me nobody gives af about your hollow cheeks your 16 bro just live life. You can hardmaxx if needed when older.

As many others have said you look good and definitely have some signs of BDD, dont think on it too much and just lifemaxx