Any users feel like looksmaxxing has spiraled back into being about the malegaze (and has largely lost its focus)

[WanderingBurro]

There won't be much to this post. Just wondering if anyone is of the same opinion that looksmaxxing has slowly begun to circle back to the thing it initially criticised and that being the malegaze. The whole point of looksmaxxing was to offer an alternative to things like PUA or generic normie methods of looksmaxxing but as of late I feel "looksmaxxing" has slowly devolved into these and we're largely losing the point.

The idea was to curate looks that would actually have female appeal but lately I feel the forum has been getting lost in PSL nonsense, getting too lost in the idea that bone mass is all that matters, thinking that masc ogres are what women want and will call guys with genuine appeal ugly over a failo that most people wouldn't even notice. They take the idea of dark colouring too seriously and will tell everyone to tan or for everyone with a lighter hair colour to dye it darker. I feel this is slowly circling back to a malegaze rather than something that has genuine female appeal.

As for the latter point I'm tired of how diluted this community has gotten. Looksmaxxing was a niche for more obscure looksmaxxes that most normies would never touch like surgeries or other experimental softmaxxes. Now we have "looksmaxxing" YouTube channels springing up left and right that do nothing but give normie advice like "stay hydrated and wear fitting clothes" along with influxes of people who come to this site who wouldn't dare to venture anywhere beyond that. It's slowing this site down, everyone thinks they can ascend through cope softmaxxes. (news flash you'd be even lucky to truly ascend with hardmaxxes) It's nothing but curries flooding the site asking which of their slum dweller friends mog and nothing else or curries asking for softmaxxes that could ascend them. Also I'm TIRED of teens posting "rate ascension" when all that happened was puberty taking its course, that or teens promoting mama juju magic from the slums of Mumbai that supposedly worked for them when in reality it was just again, puberty taking its course.

I can't recall the last time I learnt something useful from this site but it was quite the gold mine when I first joined. Now it feels so watered down by normie methods that this site tried to provide an alternative to or curries flooding the site with pointless rate me's.

 

[psychomandible]

Yes that's beacuse most of the users now are closet homosexuals

 

[hypernormie]

There is no male gaze. This idea is a retarded myth.

Everything that men think looks good to women does actually look good to women.

 

[hypernormie]

Also, bone mass is what matters for getting laid. You won’t be a super popular TikTok eboy that gets 1 million likes as a masthetic jock but you will get tons of pussy thrown at you by real women in real life.

 

[WanderingBurro]

Yes that's beacuse most of the users now are closet homosexuals

All jokes aside I don't think they are, just that we're falling back to being blinded by the malegaze and thinking it has much if any female appeal.

There is no male gaze. This idea is a retarded myth.

Everything that men think looks good to women does actually look good to women.

Men will bang anything that moves, they're nearly blind to PSL. Even if you pass up on something someone else will gladly take up on it. It's why the joke of "woman so infinite SMV" exists.

Also, bone mass is what matters for getting laid. You won’t be a super popular TikTok eboy that gets 1 million likes as a masthetic jock but you will get tons of pussy thrown at you by real women in real life.

Those TikTok eboys are still swimming in women IRL, it'd be odd to say women wouldn't like them IRL. But I do agree that standards are a bit lower in IRL settings, I feel people sort of come down to their senses to a degree without the constant dopamine boost of seeing one Chadlite or Chad after the other online. It's why .org will sometimes rate someone with having decent IRL potential but will note that they may struggle with OLD for how high the standards are there.

Though to be really fair a maesthetic jock should also do well online, I see that archetype being simped for quite a bit. I mean more masc ogre when I mean too much focus on bones with little to no appeal. That or uncanny PSL morphs.

 

[Deleted member 96505]

There won't be much to this post

 

[yeeyeeslayer]

good,

its good that the real looksmaxxers aren't having a lot of light shed on them lol

 

[WanderingBurro]

good,

its good that the real looksmaxxers aren't having a lot of light shed on them lol

Part of me feels this way. Despite how much looksmaxxing has spread into the mainstream I feel like the core ideals and actual methods for ascension have been completely lost in the process. Your average normie coming across looksmaxxing won't think it's anything more than a bunch of coping LTN fashionable metrosexuals. It throws them off but at the same time it's a bit tiring how much of a joke "looksmaxxing" has become because of this.

 

[looksmaxxed]

it's all about fascistgaze these days

 

[laaltin]

tldr: total curry death

 

[Thebuffdon]

I get what ur saying. I believe there isn’t anything called looksmaxxing for the most part. The way I define looksmaxxing is very rare irl, you hinted at it where most people just don’t ascend even via hardmaxxes. Only the true outliers experience looksmaxxing. Other than that the general normie appeal is just slop like you said with retards just entering the niche fresh and spouting water garbage which everyone already knows. The reason you see people who are super GL is usually just cuz they were born that way, no surgery ascended them to that point.

There are exceptions like I mentioned and those are the only people who experienced looksmaxxing as it’s meant to be defined. Some 3/10 going to a 4/10 and claiming rate my looksmaxxing transformation is nothing more than a pawn to the trend, not serious looksmaxxing at all.

 

[distance decay]

There is no male gaze. This idea is a retarded myth.

Everything that men think looks good to women does actually look good to women.

Just lol, just jerk off to barret you dont need to make excuses for it

 

[WanderingBurro]

Just lol, just jerk off to barret you dont need to make excuses for it

I feel like Jordan in his prime had good female appeal but nowadays he looks like a PSL alien. I'd cage if he actually let this forum get to his head.

 

[Xangsane]

There won't be much to this post. Just wondering if anyone is of the same opinion that looksmaxxing has slowly begun to circle back to the thing it initially criticised and that being the malegaze. The whole point of looksmaxxing was to offer an alternative to things like PUA or generic normie methods of looksmaxxing but as of late I feel "looksmaxxing" has slowly devolved into these and we're largely losing the point.

The idea was to curate looks that would actually have female appeal but lately I feel the forum has been getting lost in PSL nonsense, getting too lost in the idea that bone mass is all that matters, thinking that masc ogres are what women want and will call guys with genuine appeal ugly over a failo that most people wouldn't even notice. They take the idea of dark colouring too seriously and will tell everyone to tan or for everyone with a lighter hair colour to dye it darker. I feel this is slowly circling back to a malegaze rather than something that has genuine female appeal.

As for the latter point I'm tired of how diluted this community has gotten. Looksmaxxing was a niche for more obscure looksmaxxes that most normies would never touch like surgeries or other experimental softmaxxes. Now we have "looksmaxxing" YouTube channels springing up left and right that do nothing but give normie advice like "stay hydrated and wear fitting clothes" along with influxes of people who come to this site who wouldn't dare to venture anywhere beyond that. It's slowing this site down, everyone thinks they can ascend through cope softmaxxes. (news flash you'd be even lucky to truly ascend with hardmaxxes) It's nothing but curries flooding the site asking which of their slum dweller friends mog and nothing else or curries asking for softmaxxes that could ascend them. Also I'm TIRED of teens posting "rate ascension" when all that happened was puberty taking its course, that or teens promoting mama juju magic from the slums of Mumbai that supposedly worked for them when in reality it was just again, puberty taking its course.

I can't recall the last time I learnt something useful from this site but it was quite the gold mine when I first joined. Now it feels so watered down by normie methods that this site tried to provide an alternative to or curries flooding the site with pointless rate me's.

What makes you think lighter hair is female gaze and darker hair is male gaze?

 

[Xangsane]

All jokes aside I don't think they are, just that we're falling back to being blinded by the malegaze and thinking it has much if any female appeal.


Men will bang anything that moves, they're nearly blind to PSL. Even if you pass up on something someone else will gladly take up on it. It's why the joke of "woman so infinite SMV" exists.


Those TikTok eboys are still swimming in women IRL, it'd be odd to say women wouldn't like them IRL. But I do agree that standards are a bit lower in IRL settings, I feel people sort of come down to their senses to a degree without the constant dopamine boost of seeing one Chadlite or Chad after the other online. It's why .org will sometimes rate someone with having decent IRL potential but will note that they may struggle with OLD for how high the standards are there.

Though to be really fair a maesthetic jock should also do well online, I see that archetype being simped for quite a bit. I mean more masc ogre when I mean too much focus on bones with little to no appeal. That or uncanny PSL morphs.

simped by who? 32 year old moms?

 

[looksmaxxed]

looksmaxxing was the last hope of people who didn't understand how bad things were. now that we recognize that we are in an zero sum existential struggle against gay race communism, sex and reproduction takes a back seat over finding methods to kill communists. 1 dead communist=1 white baby

 

[Clark69]

Now it feels so watered down by normie methods that this site tried to provide an alternative to or curries flooding the site with pointless rate me's.

Reel/TikTok tourists are just lazy, delusional, and retarded. They don't want to dig deep in the hole and invest time in learning even the basic stuff, they want shit given to them on a whim because it's what they're used to. Feels like talking to a brick wall at times

 

[WanderingBurro]

What makes you think lighter hair is female gaze and darker hair is male gaze?

I think both have their appeal but users on .org will usually tell anyone with lighter hair to dye it darker when blond guys are very much a strong type for female appeal (JBW as they say). I think the only thing that's really worth tinting darker are brows just in case your brows are too light to really notice but I don't agree that hair always needs to be darker to have appeal or that darker hair has more appeal.

simped by who? 32 year old moms?

Well most guys who fit a maesthetic archetype are usually in their 20's-30's (40's if lucky) so being 30 alone isn't that bad since you'd still be dating within your age range. A maesthetic jock would still have broad appeal I feel whereas doms or ogres would have more roastie appeal.