Anyone else gone from ND to NT using SSRI’s

[OnlyWs]

This is not a Jewish post I swear, my actual experience the past 2 years

But unironically SSRI’s turned me from being ND (therapist diagnosed me) to NT having a dream social life and feeling happy, energetic and generally enjoying life

Rather than having the ND doom and despair outlook

Anyone else experienced a similar transformation?

Also this is backed up by original data on early SSRI trials of Prozac

“people who’s lives were otherwise good on paper; married, kids, job but we’re unhappy and lacked confidence completely changed on Prozac”

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

This is not a Jewish post I swear, my actual experience the past 2 years

But unironically SSRI’s turned me from being ND (therapist diagnosed me) to NT having a dream social life and feeling happy, energetic and generally enjoying life

Rather than having the ND doom and despair outlook

Anyone else experienced a similar transformation?

Also this is backed up by original data on early SSRI trials of Prozac

“people who’s lives were otherwise good on paper; married, kids, job but we’re unhappy and lacked confidence completely changed on Prozac”

yea no this is jewish

 

[OnlyWs]

yea no this is jewish

Just said it’s my personal experience you nigger I’m not promoting it randomly

 

[Foreverbrad]

“people who’s lives were otherwise good on paper; married, kids, job but we’re unhappy and lacked confidence completely changed on Prozac”

My life is completely shit on paper though, that’s the problem. Incel, job (how the fuck is this meant to be a positive) etc.

 

[OnlyWs]

My life is completely shit on paper though, that’s the problem. Incel, job (how the fuck is this meant to be a positive) etc.

Yeah I won’t lie it’s not going to magically change shit circumstances if that’s the primary reason you feel bad

SSRIs I think work best when you either have always felt like shit and your below potential or your life is good on paper but you still feel like shit

This Reddit thread I found is similar to my experience

 

[kebinGarnett]

This is not a Jewish post I swear, my actual experience the past 2 years

But unironically SSRI’s turned me from being ND (therapist diagnosed me) to NT having a dream social life and feeling happy, energetic and generally enjoying life

Rather than having the ND doom and despair outlook

Anyone else experienced a similar transformation?

Also this is backed up by original data on early SSRI trials of Prozac

“people who’s lives were otherwise good on paper; married, kids, job but we’re unhappy and lacked confidence completely changed on Prozac”

I pick mine up on Monday. Hope they make me feel like turning things around

 

[optimisticzoomer]

I did without any drugs
Just with my mind

 

[optimisticzoomer]

My life is completely shit on paper though, that’s the problem. Incel, job (how the fuck is this meant to be a positive) etc.

Monkmaxx bruh
I’ve given you the solution. Whether you follow it or not is up to you

 

[OnlyWs]

I pick mine up on Monday. Hope they make me feel like turning things around

Good luck bro

 

[OnlyWs]

Antidepressants don’t just treat depression–they can make us more sociable, too

Thirty years ago, when Prozac had just become available, I prescribed it to a patient with seriously disabling depression. My patient responded promptly, and soon he had a new report to make. He was more poised and socially at ease than he had ever been. He said the medication had made him...

qz.com

The Transformation of Personality

Prozac and its peers have the power to dramatically reshape lives.

www.psychologytoday.com

Doing more research now it seems like the ability to change personality has been known for a while

Not everyone is going to get this btw, SSRIs affect people differently (only 25% have the kind of change i experienced that’s been life changing)

 

[rishu nond]

Antidepressants don’t just treat depression–they can make us more sociable, too

Thirty years ago, when Prozac had just become available, I prescribed it to a patient with seriously disabling depression. My patient responded promptly, and soon he had a new report to make. He was more poised and socially at ease than he had ever been. He said the medication had made him...

qz.com

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The Transformation of Personality

Prozac and its peers have the power to dramatically reshape lives.

www.psychologytoday.com

Doing more research now it seems like the ability to change personality has been known for a while

Not everyone is going to get this btw, SSRIs affect people differently (only 25% have the kind of change i experienced that’s been life changing)

Yeah please

 

[rishu nond]

This is not a Jewish post I swear, my actual experience the past 2 years

But unironically SSRI’s turned me from being ND (therapist diagnosed me) to NT having a dream social life and feeling happy, energetic and generally enjoying life

Rather than having the ND doom and despair outlook

Anyone else experienced a similar transformation?

Also this is backed up by original data on early SSRI trials of Prozac

“people who’s lives were otherwise good on paper; married, kids, job but we’re unhappy and lacked confidence completely changed on Prozac”

What's the Jews link with them

 

[rishu nond]

Monkmaxx bruh
I’ve given you the solution. Whether you follow it or not is up to you

What's the solution

 

[Kroker]

Yes I experienced the benefits but as well as the side effects

Low libido
Memory/cognitive decline
Thin hair
Slow metabolism
Decreased bone mass

But I was low cortisol NT social butterfly

 

[FiendFiend]

This is not a Jewish post I swear, my actual experience the past 2 years

But unironically SSRI’s turned me from being ND (therapist diagnosed me) to NT having a dream social life and feeling happy, energetic and generally enjoying life

Rather than having the ND doom and despair outlook

Anyone else experienced a similar transformation?

Also this is backed up by original data on early SSRI trials of Prozac

“people who’s lives were otherwise good on paper; married, kids, job but we’re unhappy and lacked confidence completely changed on Prozac”

what SSRI's did u take? prozac?

 

[Foreverbrad]

Monkmaxx bruh
I’ve given you the solution. Whether you follow it or not is up to you

I am but I am unhappy with it. If this is all there is then it’s needlesss prolongment of an unhappy and unfulfilling life.

 

[FiendFiend]

Yes I experienced the benefits but as well as the side effects

Low libido
Memory/cognitive decline
Thin hair
Slow metabolism
Decreased bone mass

But I was low cortisol NT social butterfly

low libido isnt that bad issue idgaf
memory/cognitive decline can be treated with other nootropics
thin hair, can be helped with dut
metabolism is no biggie, i have horrible metabolism its no biggie
bone mass decreasing is cope

Really no downsides to SSRI's then?

 

[Eskorbutin]

Yes I experienced the benefits but as well as the side effects

Low libido
Memory/cognitive decline
Thin hair
Slow metabolism
Decreased bone mass

But I was low cortisol NT social butterfly

I had this happening too. I quit due to those. Honestly you can get the same low inhib with weed but you become paranoid when you smoke weed daily for years. Still better

 

[optimisticzoomer]

What's the solution

Monkmaxx

 

[Kroker]

I had this happening too. I quit due to those. Honestly you can get the same low inhib with weed but you become paranoid when you smoke weed daily for years. Still better

Correct, paranoia as well as anxiety.

low libido isnt that bad issue idgaf
memory/cognitive decline can be treated with other nootropics
thin hair, can be helped with dut
metabolism is no biggie, i have horrible metabolism its no biggie
bone mass decreasing is cope

Really no downsides to SSRI's then?

Just take other chemicals to counteract chemical’s side effects, you’d be going in circles

The you’d stake more chemicals to offset the chemicals you’re taking to reduce the chemical’s adversity

Common what a silly joke

 

[FiendFiend]

Correct, paranoia as well as anxiety.

Just take other chemicals to counteract chemical’s side effects, you’d be going in circles

The you’d stake more chemicals to offset the chemicals you’re taking to reduce the chemical’s adversity

Common what a silly joke

i think a good diet can honestly help with that, tbf im not like clav where he is taking another drug to treat the 10000 side effects, but it is valid.

For example like id get nausea from mt2 and reta and id just drink caffinated drink and itd go away, hardly any sides.

Its a calculated risk. Imo ur brain is getting more fried by the day the more u spend online, doomscrolling, being alone and not being social, that the benefits outweigh the risks of going in circles. You really are in an unfortunate spot if ur ND or non nt there are gonna be risks and measures ur gonna have to take to not looksmin but also get as NT as possible.

People like goatis fear monger about this "going in circles" thing with treating side effects of drugs too much, it really isnt real. It hasnt really been recorded on this forum, and if anything its just may be a hastle having to take a bunch more pills, and pay for them.

 

[OnlyWs]

What's the Jews link with them

Just a bit of a meme but honestly a lot of users (including me previously) have a huge bias against SSRIs, basically seen as happy pills that make you feel better even tho circumstances are shit

But after my experience I know this isn’t true and some people like me can legit benefit from them

what SSRI's did u take? prozac?

Lexapro, 10mg daily

Yes I experienced the benefits but as well as the side effects

Low libido
Memory/cognitive decline
Thin hair
Slow metabolism
Decreased bone mass

But I was low cortisol NT social butterfly

Yeah my hair thinned a bit too and metabolism slowed and 2 weeks of lower libido but it picked up, minoxidil helped my hair but it’s harder to keep off weight, thankfully I was the kinniest kid ever so I basically turned to average metabolism

low libido isnt that bad issue idgaf
memory/cognitive decline can be treated with other nootropics
thin hair, can be helped with dut
metabolism is no biggie, i have horrible metabolism its no biggie
bone mass decreasing is cope

Really no downsides to SSRI's then?

Basically my experience

 

[rishu nond]

Just a bit of a meme but honestly a lot of users (including me previously) have a huge bias against SSRIs, basically seen as happy pills that make you feel better even tho circumstances are shit

But after my experience I know this isn’t true and some people like me can legit benefit from them


Lexapro, 10mg daily


Yeah my hair thinned a bit too and metabolism slowed and 2 weeks of lower libido but it picked up, minoxidil helped my hair but it’s harder to keep off weight, thankfully I was the kinniest kid ever so I basically turned to average metabolism


Basically my experience

I will try too

 

[OnlyWs]

I will try too

I would do it under doctor supervision, they can guide you through the early side effects plus it’ll take a couple months to feel the real benefits kick in so just be prepared for that

 

[Randomized]

SSRIs didn't really work for me. I've tried a lot and I've only ever had negative experiences with them.

With that being said, finding a proper antidepressant did help me dramatically and I'm still on one now. I'm not sure I would say NT (I'm a mod for incel forums) but I would say it helped me dramatically.

Not a lot of people will understand but some people are just kind of fucked up chemically. I would like to get off of them one day but I don't know when. I would not say that I'm really happy now but having my negative thoughts nerfed a bit made me more open to experiencing stuff with others. It did turn socializing from this self hating ritual into a mildly awkward inconvenience, which is better.

 

[L13]

This is not a Jewish post I swear, my actual experience the past 2 years

But unironically SSRI’s turned me from being ND (therapist diagnosed me) to NT having a dream social life and feeling happy, energetic and generally enjoying life

Rather than having the ND doom and despair outlook

Anyone else experienced a similar transformation?

Also this is backed up by original data on early SSRI trials of Prozac

“people who’s lives were otherwise good on paper; married, kids, job but we’re unhappy and lacked confidence completely changed on Prozac”

I dont think it made u stop being ND, it probably just made u not feel depressed. have no expirence with ssris and i would definitely be scared of taking them because if you dont truly have serotonin deficiency then itll fuck you up and they are overperscriebd. but sounded like u needed it. ND is more about a pattern of thoughts thats abnormal and autistic, and theres no reason an increase in serotonin will change this

 

[L13]

Id say things that make me more outgoing as a person are usually stimulants, as for happiness, usually psychs are best for me, esp first time taking shrooms was very eye opening

 

[OnlyWs]

SSRIs didn't really work for me. I've tried a lot and I've only ever had negative experiences with them.

With that being said, finding a proper antidepressant did help me dramatically and I'm still on one now. I'm not sure I would say NT (I'm a mod for incel forums) but I would say it helped me dramatically.

Not a lot of people will understand but some people are just kind of fucked up chemically. I would like to get off of them one day but I don't know when. I would not say that I'm really happy now but having my negative thoughts nerfed a bit made me more open to experiencing stuff with others. It did turn socializing from this self hating ritual into a mildly awkward inconvenience, which is better.

Glad to hear they also helped you, my first one worked for me but it’s just luck of the draw.

I definitely know what you mean by ‘some people are fucked up chemically’ I think it’s from early childhood trauma but whatever causes it I wouldn’t have believed unless I personally experienced it

I dont think it made u stop being ND, it probably just made u not feel depressed. have no expirence with ssris and i would definitely be scared of taking them because if you dont truly have serotonin deficiency then itll fuck you up and they are overperscriebd. but sounded like u needed it. ND is more about a pattern of thoughts thats abnormal and autistic, and theres no reason an increase in serotonin will change this

Yeah tbh I’m not sure I ever was convinced I was truly ND. I certainly wasn’t severe with a super special interest like trains or something.

Just basically had a couple friends but didn’t really enjoy socialising that much and couldn’t be myself around other people due to social anxiety.

So I should say while 1 therapist heavily hinted I might be ND and psychologist diagnosed me as ASD 1, I don’t believe I had the “hardcore “ version if that makes sense. More like I was always depressed and anxious as a kid and this manifested as some ASD symptoms but idk.

I will say Im NT now and I’ve felt this way for over a year.

Id say things that make me more outgoing as a person are usually stimulants, as for happiness, usually psychs are best for me, esp first time taking shrooms was very eye opening

Yeah shrooms also helped me cause they “broke the box” and made me realise a lot of the perception I thought of as being ‘me’ was really just a equation based on life experience + genetics and could be altered by drugs

 

[L13]

Glad to hear they also helped you, my first one worked for me but it’s just luck of the draw


Yeah tbh I’m not sure I ever was convinced I was truly ND. I certainly wasn’t severe with a super special interest like trains or something.

Just basically had a couple friends but didn’t really enjoy socialising that much and couldn’t be myself around other people due to social anxiety.

So I should say while 1 therapist heavily hinted I might be ND and psychologist diagnosed me as ASD 1, I don’t believe I had the “hardcore “ version of that makes sense. More like I was always depressed and anxious as a kid and this manifested as some ASD symptoms but idk.

I will say Im NT now and I’ve felt this way for over a year.


Yeah shrooms also helped me cause they “broke the box” and made me realise a lot of the perception I thought of as being ‘me’ was really just a equation based on life experience + genetics and could be altered by drugs

ND usually just means u have autism. Serotonin increase from low to normal causing increased sociability wouldnt really be something that would typically be autism. U probably just had depression. Being introverted or even socially withdrawn is not the same as ND

 

[L13]

Happy to hear that it helped you though, nothing wrong with it if it truly helped u with no side effects. SSRIs sound controversial but its not bc they arnt effective in certain scenarios its that they are overperscribed and often times have bad side effects

 

[OnlyWs]

ND usually just means u have autism. Serotonin increase from low to normal causing increased sociability wouldnt really be something that would typically be autism. U probably just had depression. Being introverted or even socially withdrawn is not the same as ND

Yes I was diagnosed with autism by a psychologist who specialises in that area.

However I agree and I think I just had chronic functional depression and anxiety (until an event caused my anxiety to spiral so I had to get help)

I guess I could do an ASD test but honestly as I said my social life is a dream (normal for most normies lol) and the test costs €2k where I am.

I understand the ND part will be contention cause I don’t believe SSRIs can make a truly ND person NT

But my story is I was diagnosed with Asperger’s and now have a NT life and honestly am in the top 25% socially speaking even tho I’m mtn

 

[OnlyWs]

Happy to hear that it helped you though, nothing wrong with it if it truly helped u with no side effects. SSRIs sound controversial but its not bc they arnt effective in certain scenarios its that they are overperscribed and often times have bad side effects

Absolutely agree they are prescribed too much as a bandaid on a dysfunctional society and do have side effects

But this forum has pretty much no positive posts about them so I thought I’d share mine, although I’m probably a ‘outlier’

 

[Gargantuan]

You can’t go from ND to NT. That’s not how it works. Brain wiring is set in stone. SSRIs can dull symptoms, maybe make you seem more “normal,” but they don’t rewrite your circuitry.

If you suddenly feel NT, either you were never ND to begin with or you’re just numbed out and mistaking that for normality.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

It doesn't work like that nigga

 

[PunjabiPlayboy]

You can’t go from ND to NT. That’s not how it works. Brain wiring is set in stone. SSRIs can dull symptoms, maybe make you seem more “normal,” but they don’t rewrite your circuitry.

If you suddenly feel NT, either you were never ND to begin with or you’re just numbed out and mistaking that for normality.

Gargantun rep my rocky edit bruv

 

[L13]

Yes I was diagnosed with autism by a psychologist who specialises in that area.

However I agree and I think I just had chronic functional depression and anxiety (until an event caused my anxiety to spiral so I had to get help)

I guess I could do an ASD test but honestly as I said my social life is a dream (normal for most normies lol) and the test costs €2k where I am.

I understand the ND part will be contention cause I don’t believe SSRIs can make a truly ND person NT

But my story is I was diagnosed with Asperger’s and now have a NT life and honestly am in the top 25% socially speaking even tho I’m mtn

Yah but ASD is also over diagnosed and super vague. The thing is that if u changed just from ssris it doesnt sound like autism or an extreme case bc its caused by like a variety of factors and simply one drug wouldnt really change that much stuff. There also isnt really a single gene, behavioral pattern etc that even causes autism, its just a collection of symtoms. Even if u got diagnosed, u could have just shown autism like symtoms causing a diagnosis even tho u were just depressed and socially underdeveloped. Dont waste 2k on that test tho. But im just saying, that ssris maybe helped u in ur case but u cant just tell ppl "oh take ssris and u will end up social and happy" for majority of ppl thats just ridiculous. Ur anecdote is cool but its just an anecdote.