Anyone else here with a degree working a dead end job because you have no career ambition or connections/experience?

[optimisticzoomer]

Thread title
My job is in security, but it’s low stress and chill, so I don’t really have any incentive to try and find something else

 

[inversions]

yeah theres brad

 

[optimisticzoomer]

yeah theres brad

Foreverbrad? He is in some office job earning 40k+
I think his job requires qualifications

 

[inversions]

Foreverbrad? He is in some office job earning 40k+
I think his job requires qualifications

But I swear he's always saying how his degree is pointless and useless

@Foreverbrad

 

[optimisticzoomer]

But I swear he's always saying how his degree is pointless and useless

@Foreverbrad

He says he wishes he worked instead of doing a degree
But I’m pretty sure his current job still requires a degree

 

[Foreverbrad]

He says he wishes he worked instead of doing a degree
But I’m pretty sure his current job still requires a degree

I’d have been able to get this job without a degree just by building years of experience instead. And I would have a lot more money now.

Mechanical engineering is a worthless and useless degree for sure because you can make this kind of 40k salary with 5 years experience in basically anything and there’s no real progression possible. The only silver lining is the work is easy and I only really work 3 days a week. But that’s more down to luck/my situation than anything systemic.

 

[hej1377]

I’d have been able to get this job without a degree just by building years of experience instead. And I would have a lot more money now.

Mechanical engineering is a worthless and useless degree for sure because you can make this kind of 40k salary with 5 years experience in basically anything and there’s no real progression possible. The only silver lining is the work is easy and I only really work 3 days a week. But that’s more down to luck/my situation than anything systemic.

Isnt mchanical engineering amazing if you dont mind geomaxxing to the usa or germany or sum shit

 

[Foreverbrad]

Isnt mchanical engineering amazing if you dont mind geomaxxing to the usa or germany or sum shit

It’s no good anywhere really. Bear in mind this requires a DIFFICULT 5 year degree and in uk you are literally starting at minimum wage. Notice how expanded the timescales are in the UK for the better job titles as well.

You may be able to make a lot by starting your own company but unfortunately most engineers are autists and unable to make the connections necessary to do that. My only chance is therefore to looksmax and then try to mentally rewire using drugs + positive feedback loop. Unless I can cure the autistic micro expressions that make normies despise me on sight, it’s essentially game over as I’ll never be able to run a business.

There is decent money in offshore/FIFO but to be honest you’d make more as a skilled technician with the same time investment as the degree.

As you can see the progression is so slow that your purchasing power will essentially be flat over your lifetime as inflation will easily keep up if not outpace your pay growth even with promotions.

Whenever we are doing “workshops” to “encourage STEM” I really have to bite my tongue to not go on this rant. Brad at work is a very different animal to forum Brad.

Germany:
By Experience Level (Gross Annual Salary)

• Entry-Level (0-1 year): Around €48,000 - €57,000
• Early Career (1-4 years): Around €50,000 - €60,000
• Mid-Career (4-9 years): Around €58,000 - €70,000
• Experienced (10+ years): €87,000 - €100,000+

UK
Salary by Experience Level (Approximate Ranges):

• Entry-Level (0-3 Years): £26,000 - £32,000 (Graduates on schemes might start higher).
• Mid-Level (4-9 Years): £35,000 - £45,000 (Lead/Principal roles).
• Senior Level (10+ Years): £45,000 - £75,000+ (Chief Engineer/Specialist).
• Highly Experienced/Management (20+ Years): £70,000 - £96,000+ (Can exceed £100k in specialized roles).

USA:
Salary by Experience Level

• Entry-Level (0-3 years): Expect $60,000 - $90,000+, with graduates in high-cost-of-living (HCOL) areas earning $100k+ at larger tech firms.
• Mid-Level (3-7 years): Salaries generally increase to $90,000 - $130,000+, depending on specialization and location.
• Senior/Lead (7+ years): Senior engineers often earn $115,000 - $160,000+, with top earners exceeding $150k-$200k in lucrative sectors or high-demand roles.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

It’s no good anywhere really. Bear in mind this requires a DIFFICULT 5 year degree and in uk you are literally starting at minimum wage. Notice how expanded the timescales are in the UK for the better job titles as well.

You may be able to make a lot by starting your own company but unfortunately most engineers are autists and unable to make the connections necessary to do that. My only chance is therefore to looksmax and then try to mentally rewire using drugs + positive feedback loop. Unless I can cure the autistic micro expressions that make normies despise me on sight, it’s essentially game over as I’ll never be able to run a business.

There is decent money in offshore/FIFO but to be honest you’d make more as a skilled technician with the same time investment as the degree.

As you can see the progression is so slow that your purchasing power will essentially be flat over your lifetime as inflation will easily keep up if not outpace your pay growth even with promotions.

Whenever we are doing “workshops” to “encourage STEM” I really have to bite my tongue to not go on this rant. Brad at work is a very different animal to forum Brad.

Germany:
By Experience Level (Gross Annual Salary)

• Entry-Level (0-1 year): Around €48,000 - €57,000
• Early Career (1-4 years): Around €50,000 - €60,000
• Mid-Career (4-9 years): Around €58,000 - €70,000
• Experienced (10+ years): €87,000 - €100,000+

UK
Salary by Experience Level (Approximate Ranges):

• Entry-Level (0-3 Years): £26,000 - £32,000 (Graduates on schemes might start higher).
• Mid-Level (4-9 Years): £35,000 - £45,000 (Lead/Principal roles).
• Senior Level (10+ Years): £45,000 - £75,000+ (Chief Engineer/Specialist).
• Highly Experienced/Management (20+ Years): £70,000 - £96,000+ (Can exceed £100k in specialized roles).

USA:
Salary by Experience Level

• Entry-Level (0-3 years): Expect $60,000 - $90,000+, with graduates in high-cost-of-living (HCOL) areas earning $100k+ at larger tech firms.
• Mid-Level (3-7 years): Salaries generally increase to $90,000 - $130,000+, depending on specialization and location.
• Senior/Lead (7+ years): Senior engineers often earn $115,000 - $160,000+, with top earners exceeding $150k-$200k in lucrative sectors or high-demand roles.

Engineering degrees are 3 years, and masters are 1 year?

 

[Foreverbrad]

Engineering degrees are 3 years, and masters are 1 year?

Here in Scotland it’s 4+1, but I guess free tuition makes up for it.

 

[Sub5kang]

I’d have been able to get this job without a degree just by building years of experience instead. And I would have a lot more money now.

Mechanical engineering is a worthless and useless degree for sure because you can make this kind of 40k salary with 5 years experience in basically anything and there’s no real progression possible. The only silver lining is the work is easy and I only really work 3 days a week. But that’s more down to luck/my situation than anything systemic.

You doing IT related stuff? DEVOPS azure etc

 

[Foreverbrad]

You doing IT related stuff? DEVOPS azure etc

No I am a mechanical engineer, this stuff is completely unrelated.

 

[Immersed-]

No I am a mechanical engineer, this stuff is completely unrelated.

If you actually went to a high ranking target uni maybe your degree would be more respected

 

[Foreverbrad]

If you actually went to a high ranking target uni maybe your degree would be more respected

True, but then I’d probably not be working in mechanical engineering at all.

I didn’t have the choice to go to a high ranking uni, to be honest when I dropped out of school (bullying) I had the shittest grades (bullying) and it’s surprising I’ve even pulled my life together as much as I did. But of course, effort doesn’t matter - only results - so my “rags to mediocrity” story is overshadowed by any normie who just had an easy straight path through.

 

[m0ss26]

True, but then I’d probably not be working in mechanical engineering at all.

I didn’t have the choice to go to a high ranking uni, to be honest when I dropped out of school (bullying) I had the shittest grades (bullying) and it’s surprising I’ve even pulled my life together as much as I did. But of course, effort doesn’t matter - only results - so my “rags to mediocrity” story is overshadowed by any normie who just had an easy straight path through.

still 10x more inspirational though.

 

[hej1377]

It’s no good anywhere really. Bear in mind this requires a DIFFICULT 5 year degree and in uk you are literally starting at minimum wage. Notice how expanded the timescales are in the UK for the better job titles as well.

You may be able to make a lot by starting your own company but unfortunately most engineers are autists and unable to make the connections necessary to do that. My only chance is therefore to looksmax and then try to mentally rewire using drugs + positive feedback loop. Unless I can cure the autistic micro expressions that make normies despise me on sight, it’s essentially game over as I’ll never be able to run a business.

There is decent money in offshore/FIFO but to be honest you’d make more as a skilled technician with the same time investment as the degree.

As you can see the progression is so slow that your purchasing power will essentially be flat over your lifetime as inflation will easily keep up if not outpace your pay growth even with promotions.

Whenever we are doing “workshops” to “encourage STEM” I really have to bite my tongue to not go on this rant. Brad at work is a very different animal to forum Brad.

Germany:
By Experience Level (Gross Annual Salary)

• Entry-Level (0-1 year): Around €48,000 - €57,000
• Early Career (1-4 years): Around €50,000 - €60,000
• Mid-Career (4-9 years): Around €58,000 - €70,000
• Experienced (10+ years): €87,000 - €100,000+

UK
Salary by Experience Level (Approximate Ranges):

• Entry-Level (0-3 Years): £26,000 - £32,000 (Graduates on schemes might start higher).
• Mid-Level (4-9 Years): £35,000 - £45,000 (Lead/Principal roles).
• Senior Level (10+ Years): £45,000 - £75,000+ (Chief Engineer/Specialist).
• Highly Experienced/Management (20+ Years): £70,000 - £96,000+ (Can exceed £100k in specialized roles).

USA:
Salary by Experience Level

• Entry-Level (0-3 years): Expect $60,000 - $90,000+, with graduates in high-cost-of-living (HCOL) areas earning $100k+ at larger tech firms.
• Mid-Level (3-7 years): Salaries generally increase to $90,000 - $130,000+, depending on specialization and location.
• Senior/Lead (7+ years): Senior engineers often earn $115,000 - $160,000+, with top earners exceeding $150k-$200k in lucrative sectors or high-demand roles.

I mean i get the "what if" thinking pattern as if what if you were in finance etc and envy of people who might be in a better position but i think youre not in as bad of a position as you might think even though it could be better

Even having the iq to be a mechanicall engineer already puts you ahead of a very sizable % of the population even if your current salary might not directly reflect that, and still 40k is over the uk average which is very good assuming your 28 from graduating at 18+5y uni + 5y experience. And also ambition could set you apart as time goes when you end up saving more money looksmaxxing etc.This looks like giga cope but i promise is not and tbh were all of course striving for perection but i still wouldnt be ot beat up about it if i was in your position at 28, and couldn't you make 65k from just working 5 days a week like normal?

 

[Foreverbrad]

I mean i get the "what if" thinking pattern as if what if you were in finance etc and envy of people who might be in a better position but i think youre not in as bad of a position as you might think even though it could be better

Even having the iq to be a mechanicall engineer already puts you ahead of a very sizable % of the population even if your current salary might not directly reflect that, and still 40k is over the uk average which is very good assuming your 28 from graduating at 18+5y uni + 5y experience. And also ambition could set you apart as time goes when you end up saving more money looksmaxxing etc.This looks like giga cope but i promise is not and tbh were all of course striving for perection but i still wouldnt be ot beat up about it if i was in your position at 28, and couldn't you make 65k from just working 5 days a week like normal?

I’m 32, wasted some years on NEETing and depression.

I can’t make 65k working 5 days a week, I’m already meant to work 5 days just as it’s a hybrid working job I condense everything I need to do into the 3 office days and just do my own thing (at my home working desk) on the others.

 

[pyroclasm]

I haven't even found a job yet. I'd be willing to work for chump change because it would still be more than I've ever had. Hopefully my law career works out

 

[gymceltard]

Thread title
My job is in security, but it’s low stress and chill, so I don’t really have any incentive to try and find something else

How is security low stress? I worked as a mall security guard and quit after 1 week.

My faggot curry manager yelled at me because I refused to press a schizo homeless man threatening to stab me. I just walked out of the job, fuck that place.

Security is the worst, your risk your life for minimum wage.

 

[hej1377]

How is security low stress? I worked as a mall security guard and quit after 1 week.

My faggot curry manager yelled at me because I refused to press a schizo homeless man threatening to stab me. I just walked out of the job, fuck that place.

Security is the worst, your risk your life for minimum wage.

I mean he might work in a chill place or not be in literal physiqal security, it might be cycbersecurity or sum shit

 

[gymceltard]

I’m 32, wasted some years on NEETing and depression.

I can’t make 65k working 5 days a week, I’m already meant to work 5 days just as it’s a hybrid working job I condense everything I need to do into the 3 office days and just do my own thing (at my home working desk) on the others.

How did you ascend at 32? Did you go back to college? Give me a plan I'm 25 and a NEET currently.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

I haven't even found a job yet. I'd be willing to work for chump change because it would still be more than I've ever had. Hopefully my law career works out

Do you have a degree?

 

[optimisticzoomer]

How is security low stress? I worked as a mall security guard and quit after 1 week.

My faggot curry manager yelled at me because I refused to press a schizo homeless man threatening to stab me. I just walked out of the job, fuck that place.

Security is the worst, your risk your life for minimum wage.

Depends on the job
My current one isn’t even security related, but we’re still “security officers”. I just work in a post room for a large site, giving people packages they come to collect after we’ve processed them after being delivered

 

[LTNUser]

Yea,I do got one

Do you have a degree?

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Yea,I do got one

Aren’t u like 17 or 18?

 

[pyroclasm]

Do you have a degree?

Yes. Poli sci

 

[Foreverbrad]

How did you ascend at 32? Did you go back to college? Give me a plan I'm 25 and a NEET currently.

I went back to university but I wouldn’t recommend it.

Try and just get into something that requires some quick certs that you can do while living with your parents e.g. something local but in demand.

Real money is made from stock market, not your career, for the 99% of people who aren’t finance bros and tech bros. So the earlier you start the better. Stock market doubles every 5 years or so and you are simply not gonna keep up with that with your pay rises.

 

[LTNUser]

Aren’t u like 17 or 18?

I'm an advanced individual
I progress faster than the average human

 

[itsherlossNVM]

Yup.

 

[Immersed-]

True, but then I’d probably not be working in mechanical engineering at all.

I didn’t have the choice to go to a high ranking uni, to be honest when I dropped out of school (bullying) I had the shittest grades (bullying) and it’s surprising I’ve even pulled my life together as much as I did. But of course, effort doesn’t matter - only results - so my “rags to mediocrity” story is overshadowed by any normie who just had an easy straight path through.

Brutal how you got bullied, big trucel trait is getting bullied so I feel sorry.

If you were in Scotland/england, getting into a high ranking uni isn’t insanely difficult, especially the prestigious universities in the uk which can be achieved with a fraction of the effort compared to other unis.

I go to a top 4 ranking uni in the uk after failing my exams but I was able to take a gap year and allow myself for a better life opportunity.

Still impressive tho congrats to you , what’s your yearly salary like? And your age, ofc you don’t have to answer lol

 

[Foreverbrad]

Brutal how you got bullied, big trucel trait is getting bullied so I feel sorry.

If you were in Scotland/england, getting into a high ranking uni isn’t insanely difficult, especially the prestigious universities in the uk which can be achieved with a fraction of the effort compared to other unis.

I go to a top 4 ranking uni in the uk after failing my exams but I was able to take a gap year and allow myself for a better life opportunity.

Still impressive tho congrats to you , what’s your yearly salary like? And your age, ofc you don’t have to answer lol

40k, 32, it’s completely fucking over.
The only way I am salvaging this is to start a business. Somehow.

I had no highers (a-levels for you English) so getting into university at all was a struggle and I had to go to a local one as I couldn’t afford to live away from parents. Still can’t tbh.

 

[Immersed-]

40k, 32, it’s completely fucking over.
The only way I am salvaging this is to start a business. Somehow.

I had no highers (a-levels for you English) so getting into university at all was a struggle and I had to go to a local one as I couldn’t afford to live away from parents. Still can’t tbh.

Brutal reality if your parents aren’t already rich or top5% education

 

[GenerationalAutism]

It’s no good anywhere really. Bear in mind this requires a DIFFICULT 5 year degree and in uk you are literally starting at minimum wage. Notice how expanded the timescales are in the UK for the better job titles as well.

You may be able to make a lot by starting your own company but unfortunately most engineers are autists and unable to make the connections necessary to do that. My only chance is therefore to looksmax and then try to mentally rewire using drugs + positive feedback loop. Unless I can cure the autistic micro expressions that make normies despise me on sight, it’s essentially game over as I’ll never be able to run a business.

There is decent money in offshore/FIFO but to be honest you’d make more as a skilled technician with the same time investment as the degree.

As you can see the progression is so slow that your purchasing power will essentially be flat over your lifetime as inflation will easily keep up if not outpace your pay growth even with promotions.

Whenever we are doing “workshops” to “encourage STEM” I really have to bite my tongue to not go on this rant. Brad at work is a very different animal to forum Brad.

Germany:
By Experience Level (Gross Annual Salary)

• Entry-Level (0-1 year): Around €48,000 - €57,000
• Early Career (1-4 years): Around €50,000 - €60,000
• Mid-Career (4-9 years): Around €58,000 - €70,000
• Experienced (10+ years): €87,000 - €100,000+

UK
Salary by Experience Level (Approximate Ranges):

• Entry-Level (0-3 Years): £26,000 - £32,000 (Graduates on schemes might start higher).
• Mid-Level (4-9 Years): £35,000 - £45,000 (Lead/Principal roles).
• Senior Level (10+ Years): £45,000 - £75,000+ (Chief Engineer/Specialist).
• Highly Experienced/Management (20+ Years): £70,000 - £96,000+ (Can exceed £100k in specialized roles).

USA:
Salary by Experience Level

• Entry-Level (0-3 years): Expect $60,000 - $90,000+, with graduates in high-cost-of-living (HCOL) areas earning $100k+ at larger tech firms.
• Mid-Level (3-7 years): Salaries generally increase to $90,000 - $130,000+, depending on specialization and location.
• Senior/Lead (7+ years): Senior engineers often earn $115,000 - $160,000+, with top earners exceeding $150k-$200k in lucrative sectors or high-demand roles.

nigga the payscale goes up with inflation too. when you have 10 yrs exp you won't be earning the same money as guys with 10 yrs exp now

just leave the UK and go to the US