Anyone with SERM+SARM experience?

[molluskmuncher]

I’m currently in the process of planning my second SARM cycle, wondering if anyone has experience using ideally enclomiphene as an on-cycle test base.

My previous cycle was 8 weeks and i used the following:
10mg RAD-140 ED, 25mg MK-677 ED, and 10mg Cardarine ED (last 4 weeks of cycle)

Because I responded extremely well to RAD-140, I will be using it again for this cycle.

My plan is to do a similar cycle, bumping the RAD-140 up to 15mg ED for the last 4 weeks, and incorporating enclomiphene once testosterone suppression kicks in.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

 

[Deleted member 23391]

Why not stack SARMs for your second cycle? Seems to have good synergy rather than just upping the dose on one. GW isn't a SARM. And why not just do enclomiphene the entire time? The testosterone suppression is rather fast, it doesn't take weeks. When your pituitary senses enough sex hormones are in your blood, it cuts production of FSH and LH.

 

[molluskmuncher]

Why not stack SARMs for your second cycle? Seems to have good synergy rather than just upping the dose on one. GW isn't a SARM. And why not just do enclomiphene the entire time? The testosterone suppression is rather fast, it doesn't take weeks. When your pituitary senses enough sex hormones are in your blood, it cuts production of FSH and LH.

From what I’ve read, since SARM’s crash SHBG if you start the SERM at the beginning it will add to the increase in free testosterone at the beginning of the cycle leading to more estrogenic sides. I think that’s the logic behind adding enclomiphene only once you feel the effects of suppression.

What do you recommend as far as stacking SARM’s?

 

[Deleted member 23391]

From what I’ve read, since SARM’s crash SHBG if you start the SERM at the beginning it will add to the increase in free testosterone at the beginning of the cycle leading to more estrogenic sides. I think that’s the logic behind adding enclomiphene only once you feel the effects of suppression.

What do you recommend as far as stacking SARM’s?

I've only done a cycle similar to your own thus far, so I don't feel I have enough personal experience to be handing out advice. I want to try stacking several different ones in different dosages and permutations: S-23, LGD-4033, RAD-140, etc. and also try the new GW (GW-0742).

 

[Deleted member 16220]

Stacking compounds like the guy said above mogs increasing dose.

It's because other compounds work on different receptors or compete for the androgen receptors differently so you'll have more signalling to grow muscle than just increasing dose.

Instead of bullshit SARMS you should just fucking roid already. Hop on 200mg test and some turinabol to start. Take my advice you'll feel really good on 200mg test past that you'll become ugly, bloated facially, acne, hairloss. Trust me here as a guy who knew a guy who talked to a guy who may have used 800mg test and dbol and tbol all at the same time.

Roids don't get you big. A certain dose and a fuck ton of eating and hard training gets you big. You can blast your balls off and look natty. It's legit mostly the eating and the minimum effective dose that mogs. anyone who's roided before will tell you the exact same goddam thing because it's a FACT.

i want the best for you here. ask me any questions im here to help.

 

[molluskmuncher]

I already have a good base and pretty low bf (12-14) visually. My goal is primarily to grow my shoulders/frame. As for my choice of RAD-140, i would ideally like to keep water retention and bloating to a minimum to maintain facial aesthetics.

@pessimistic i’m going to look into the new GW from what i’ve read so far it looks great. From my last cycle it seemed like Cardarine was able to significantly limit the amount of fat accumulated due to caloric surplus, and I love how it makes me feel.

I’ll definitely look into SARM synergies, but i’d like to be using dry sarm’s only.

 

[Deleted member 26761]

dude, just use testosterone. people think that sarms are more acceptable because they're legal (ish), they come in pill form, and because tiktokers talk about it. they're often more dangerous and less effective than steroids

 

[5.5psl]

What's your age ?
And why not go for roids ? Sarms equally shut natty test but with inferior results compared to test .