Anything other than eye procedures and bimax is cope

[Deleted member 4044]

(Non eye area) fillers, implants and other shit may improve you 0.25 of a PSL point

But the only cosmetic things (besides obviously leanmaxxing) that are going to really change your life is fixing your eye area failios, and bimax/lefort

Harsh but true

 

[Greeicy]

You gotta have good eye spacing first before even considering surgery.

 

[Deleted member 4044]

You gotta have good eye spacing first before even considering surgery.

I'm 63-64mm ipd I'm good
Pfl 30mm

 

[Gaia262]

(Non eye area) fillers, implants and other shit may improve you 0.25 of a PSL point

But the only cosmetic things (besides obviously leanmaxxing) that are going to really change your life is fixing your eye area failios, and bimax/lefort

Harsh but true

Correct, I advocate these two areas for everyone to focus on.

The peripheral areas are hair and body.

That's all you really need.

Autists going on out about everything else is just mental masturbation.

 

[didntreadlol]

zygos are also important

 

[Deleted member 3962]

oto and rhino can be game changers tbh but for the most part ur right. only eye stuff thats legit tho is under eyes.

 

[Perfect Hairline]

I guess hair transplants are cope then, right? JFL.

 

[Deleted member 6382]

I'm 63-64mm ipd I'm good
Pfl 30mm

Ur pfl is death

 

[Norwooder]

Hair transplants
Beard transplants
Mse
MSDO
genioplasty

 

[Deleted member 4044]

oto and rhino can be game changers tbh but for the most part ur right. only eye stuff thats legit tho is under eyes.

Except when you have severe upper eyelid exposure

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Everything matters

 

[Chico Chicowski]

Everything matters

everything matters, but if u are avg without failos, you either go with lefort 2 or eye area surgeries <including zygo/cheek/eyebrow> and if u dont
ascend then with softmaxing <like skin or elevators shoes> then u failed on harmonypill and its over

 

[Deleted member 3043]

everything matters, but if u are avg without failos, you either go with lefort 2 or eye area surgeries <including zygo/cheek/eyebrow> and if u dont
ascend then with softmaxing <like skin or elevators shoes> then u failed on harmonypill and its over

it's cope. nose tip and mouth wideness matters more

 

[Chico Chicowski]

it's cope. nose tip and mouth wideness matters more

nose tip matters on selfies and mouth wideness on phone camera lens-distorted pics
IRL its like 0.1-0.2 PSL for most

 

[Deleted member 5187]

Fixing falios matter
Not making halos

 

[Deleted member 3043]

nose tip matters on selfies and mouth wideness on phone camera lens-distorted pics
IRL its like 0.1-0.2 PSL for most

are you beeing serious ? if i don'y need surgery beside fixing eyes at worst - mine are ok - it's insqne

 

[Perfect Hairline]

nose tip matters on selfies and mouth wideness on phone camera lens-distorted pics
IRL its like 0.1-0.2 PSL for most

It depends on how narrow the mouth is, if you have a very narrow mouth you would lose more than 0.2 PSL.

Same if you have a very bulbous nose tip.

 

[Chico Chicowski]

It depends on how narrow the mouth is, if you have a very narrow mouth you would lose more than 0.2 PSL.

Same if you have a very bulbous nose tip.

we talking about extremes, I said in the beginning "average person"
IF u look as an avg "rate me" user here - either lefort 2 or eyes or death

 

[Perfect Hairline]

IF u look as an avg "rate me" user here - either lefort 2 or eyes or death

Lefort 2 for what?

 

[Lorsss]

if someone has a failo like prominent ears or bon-existent upper lip, minor surgeries are legit to fix theese flaws

 

[Chico Chicowski]

Lefort 2 for what?

moving maxilla forward with also slighlt eye area forwarding, find online result and u will see that is a godly procedure
imagine thinking that "mole removaL" will give u the same halo as lf2

 

[Perfect Hairline]

moving maxilla forward with also slighlt eye area forwarding, find online result and u will see that is a godly procedure

But it also moves the nose forward:

Also it barely changes the infraorbitals, are you sure you are not talking about a Quadrangular Lefort 2?

imagine thinking that "mole removaL" will give u the same halo as lf2

Ideally you should get both (if you need them of course)

 

[Chico Chicowski]

But it also moves the nose forward:

Also it barely changes the infraorbitals, are you sure you are not talking about a Quadrangular Lefort 2?

Ideally you should get both (if you need them of course)

I dont know specifics, I cant affoird it right now either way
and probably not courage enough to get it

 

[Perfect Hairline]

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That result is from a Quadrangular Lefort 2.

Sci-Hub | Intraoral maxillary quadrangular Le Fort II osteotomy: a long-term follow-up study. Journal of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery, 62(8), 943–952 | 10.1016/j.joms.2003.12.027

 

[foreverugly1]

I've seen some good results for ZSO and chin wings. It all depends on what you need. I have really prominent projected ears and a wide nasal bridge, so an otoplasty and rhino would be worthwhile even if it doesn't increase PSL.