Aqualyx: some final questions

[milkmonster]

I am considering Aqualyx, but I have some questions;

1. What gauge and length should the needle be? In one guide, it says anywhere from 27G to 31G, 6 to 8mm, in the other it says you HAVE TO get 31G and 6mm.
2. How much ml for the submental region? I am going to inject right above my hyoid. None of the threads/guides say how much ml you should do. I am considering doing 4ml so I can do two sessions with one 8ml vial.
3. How many points? No one says how many points you should do, so are 4 points enough? Or are 12 better? Enlighten me please.
4. Is topical lidocaine okay or do I have to mix it with the Aqualyx?
5. Does the angle matter that much if it's submental? The needle is shorter than the depth of the nerves, so isn't it simpler to just pin straight?
6. How to store the Aqualyx after the first session? Fridge or room temp?
7. How to hide my ogre face after a session?
8. How to source? I've found only shady sites with bad trustpilot reviews, and I am NOT buying from indiamart.

Thank you!

 

[redskies42]

Disclaimer: I used 1 vial (8ml) in my abdomen, I did not try on my face yet. One session, 32 injection points. There are probably some minor differences.

1. I used 31g 6mm needles and there was no issue pushing the aqualyx in, you dont need 27g unless you want it make it harder on yourself, aqualyx isnt an oil and not a gel either like sayori says. Just be careful when piercing the bottle seal, you can bend the needle easy.

2. Its not recommended to reuse an open vial, I know you want to save some cash but youre better off using the amount you want in submental and the rest somwhere else on your body, buy a second bottle for a 2nd session. Dont risk infection for 50$. Also depending on how much fat you have there, why not just do the whole vial? You will be more bloated sure but at least you wont have to go through the bloat twice. Its pretty bad.

3. The product spreads out yes, but not as much as you think. I personally believe that more injection points is safer as you have less chances of having imbalances happen. Its more trouble but less risk if you have good technique. In the end you are free to experiment as you want, it will eventually all be flushed out anyway.

4. I raw dogged the aqua, no lido at all and the pain varied from injection to injection, some being more painful than others (I guess some closer to nerves than others). Worse ones were the first ones, about 7/10 pain, others varied from 2/10 to 6/10. I think you will be fine with topical lido.

5. The angle does matter, its good practice to inject at somewhat of an angle but the most important is to pinch your skin hard enough so you isolate subq fat. Naturally you will find it easiest to inject at around 45 to 70 degrees depending on how you hold the seringe. You will see that injecting youself straight at 90 is very hard with one hand pinching and one hand injecting.

6. Easy to find.
7. You don't.
8. Search the forum.

 

[milkmonster]

You put the 6mm in all the way?
I don't know about putting the whole 8ml in that area, I fear it would be overkill and that it could be risky. Thoughts?
I read also that not using lido would be better, because you could feel if you hit a blood vessel/nerve whatever and can still correct the needle. Not sure if it counts for submental area as well but better safe than sorry I would say. Also, where would I pin the rest of the aqua? My abs are visible and cheeks would be too high risk imo.
Thanks for your effort btw

Disclaimer: I used 1 vial (8ml) in my abdomen, I did not try on my face yet. One session, 32 injection points. There are probably some minor differences.

1. I used 31g 6mm needles and there was no issue pushing the aqualyx in, you dont need 27g unless you want it make it harder on yourself, aqualyx isnt an oil and not a gel either like sayori says. Just be careful when piercing the bottle seal, you can bend the needle easy.

2. Its not recommended to reuse an open vial, I know you want to save some cash but youre better off using the amount you want in submental and the rest somwhere else on your body, buy a second bottle for a 2nd session. Dont risk infection for 50$. Also depending on how much fat you have there, why not just do the whole vial? You will be more bloated sure but at least you wont have to go through the bloat twice. Its pretty bad.

3. The product spreads out yes, but not as much as you think. I personally believe that more injection points is safer as you have less chances of having imbalances happen. Its more trouble but less risk if you have good technique. In the end you are free to experiment as you want, it will eventually all be flushed out anyway.

4. I raw dogged the aqua, no lido at all and the pain varied from injection to injection, some being more painful than others (I guess some closer to nerves than others). Worse ones were the first ones, about 7/10 pain, others varied from 2/10 to 6/10. I think you will be fine with topical lido.

5. The angle does matter, its good practice to inject at somewhat of an angle but the most important is to pinch your skin hard enough so you isolate subq fat. Naturally you will find it easiest to inject at around 45 to 70 degrees depending on how you hold the seringe. You will see that injecting youself straight at 90 is very hard with one hand pinching and one hand injecting.

6. Easy to find.
7. You don't.
8. Search the forum.

 

[redskies42]

You put the 6mm in all the way?
I don't know about putting the whole 8ml in that area, I fear it would be overkill and that it could be risky. Thoughts?
I read also that not using lido would be better, because you could feel if you hit a blood vessel/nerve whatever and can still correct the needle. Not sure if it counts for submental area as well but better safe than sorry I would say. Also, where would I pin the rest of the aqua? My abs are visible and cheeks would be too high risk imo.
Thanks for your effort btw

Yea 6mm all the way at about 65deg in my case. But keep in mind the skin fold pinch was around 14mm so lots of room for error. If your submental skinpinch is thinner (probably is) I dont think you would need to go all the way in. All you need to do is pierce the skin/dermis and inject the solution. Hard to tell without pics tbh.

You will have to try it out, and see what works and what doesn't, I believe there arent many risks if you know where to avoid, how to keep the process as clean as possible and the instruments sterile. Worse case you wasted solution and seringes.

Depends on how much fat you have really. There are reddit posts of women saying they got a full vial submental and it worked fine.
If you have no fat anywhere else than I guess just toss what you don't use. Do you really want to risk infection for 50$?
Think of it this way, if you had a nasty infection and necrotic tissue development would you be willing to pay 50$ to get rid of it instantly?

For lido the only purpose is it numb the pain so if you can manage without it then why not. You barely feel the 31g needle going in, sometimes you feel it more because of the direction/angle of the needle or you hit a hair follicle. Out of the 32 points, i think I had to move 2 or 3 because i hard a hard time driving the needle past the skin. The pain only hits a second after you start injecting and thats the solution working. I guess some topical lido is cheap and could help drive the needle so why not. Doubt it would numb pain from solution.

Bloat is back to baseline after 10 days, days 1-4 being the worse. You are still swollen for a while after the 10 days, it takes like a full month for it to take effect. In my case I did notice some improvements but nothing Insane, I will try some more in fall.

edit:
One important thing to note: Its been 6 weeks since my session and I have a very slight ting/pain when I firmly press the areas closest to my belly button. I think since there are many nerves there I should have injected further away from it. I was 1.5inches away in all directions but these areas still have a tingly feeling when applying pressure. So my advice is to carefully map out your points and play it safer.

 

[milkmonster]

Yea 6mm all the way at about 65deg in my case. But keep in mind the skin fold pinch was around 14mm so lots of room for error. If your submental skinpinch is thinner (probably is) I dont think you would need to go all the way in. All you need to do is pierce the skin/dermis and inject the solution. Hard to tell without pics tbh.

You will have to try it out, and see what works and what doesn't, I believe there arent many risks if you know where to avoid, how to keep the process as clean as possible and the instruments sterile. Worse case you wasted solution and seringes.

Depends on how much fat you have really. There are reddit posts of women saying they got a full vial submental and it worked fine.
If you have no fat anywhere else than I guess just toss what you don't use. Do you really want to risk infection for 50$?
Think of it this way, if you had a nasty infection and necrotic tissue development would you be willing to pay 50$ to get rid of it instantly?

For lido the only purpose is it numb the pain so if you can manage without it then why not. You barely feel the 31g needle going in, sometimes you feel it more because of the direction/angle of the needle or you hit a hair follicle. Out of the 32 points, i think I had to move 2 or 3 because i hard a hard time driving the needle past the skin. The pain only hits a second after you start injecting and thats the solution working. I guess some topical lido is cheap and could help drive the needle so why not. Doubt it would numb pain from solution.

Bloat is back to baseline after 10 days, days 1-4 being the worse. You are still swollen for a while after the 10 days, it takes like a full month for it to take effect. In my case I did notice some improvements but nothing Insane, I will try some more in fall.

alright I know enough. thanks alot for effort