Arborist is a fake natural

[Orc]

There is a combination of things making your body look uncanny. The amount of mass in your shoulders and arms has far exceeded what women find attractive. Refer back to my tonka truck metaphor. Combined with your short limbs your arms look hilarious.

If I showed your body to a girl vs David laid I already know which one is going to get laughed at for looking uncanny.
And youre 6’3 right? At that height your short but bulky arms must look ridiculous

my wingspan is literally 6'8.

 

[smoothsexy]

It cant be

 

[tinderhacker]

my wingspan is literally 6'8.

I don’t understand guys like you. Subconsciously everyone know what women find attractive.

It’s this. Juicy and striated


Not this disgusting blob of shit

Did you not think while you were putting on all that mass that you were getting less and less appealing to women? Like what motivates you to wake up and spend your hours looking worst and worst and moving further away from the body type women want to fuck?

 

[Orc]

I don’t understand guys like you. Subconsciously everyone know what women find attractive.


View attachment 2114550It’s this. Juicy and striated

looks awful, + higher bodyfat than I am with worse proportions + significantly shorter.

 

[kuroro]

this is why most people never get big, they think they can main-gain or bulk in a small surplus because they're too afraid to lose their abs.

reality is you don't gain shit unless you're in a consistent surplus for extensive periods of time past the initial noob gains stage where most people stay forever, my bulks were like 8 months or more.

Exactly you have to bulk for a while to pack on size before u cut somehow 99% of the forum fails to understand this cause muh girls like twinks with sub 10% cheekbones etc

 

[tinderhacker]

looks awful, + higher bodyfat than I am with worse proportions + significantly shorter.

His muscle insertions and proportions are textbook. looks amazing to any human with a vagina

U look like a big ol fluffy cuddle buddy for gay lumberjacks in comparison

 

[Orc]

His muscle insertions and proportions are textbook. looks amazing to any human with a vagina

U look like a big ol fluffy cuddle buddy for gay lumberjacks in comparison

textbook awful, weak delts, weak arms and especially petty forearms, over-developed chest with weak upper chest development giving him man-tits, short clavicles, shallow ab insertions and virtually no skeletal tapering hence why he takes virtually all of his pictures from a side angle.

no surprise the only girl he managed to land is not particularly good looking.

 

[Deleted member 20704]

Even if we assume @Arborist is natty then we must also admit that total T is cope for muscle building and is not a hard capped nor rate limiting factor in absolute muscle size then cuz his levels of T in the test he posted are lower than mine very slightly when I got tested last year.

Here is my arm to compare:

Obviously I don't gymcel as I don't give a shit but just for reference his T is less than mine or roughly the same yet he is at least 35 lbs. more muscular than me.

You decide if this is natural then tell me what isn't. If this guy can look borderline Herculean muscle with the same level of test as me (and I gymcelled many years in my teens and 20s) then why would any guy hop on gear at all?

 

[Orc]

Even if we assume @Arborist is natty then we must also admit that total T is cope for muscle building and is not a hard capped nor rate limiting factor in absolute muscle size then cuz his levels of T in the test he posted are lower than mine very slightly when I got tested last year.

Here is my arm to compare:

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Obviously I don't gymcel as I don't give a shit but just for reference his T is less than mine or roughly the same yet he is at least 35 lbs. more muscular than me.

You decide if this is natural then tell me what isn't. If this guy can look borderline Herculean muscle with the same level of test as me (and I gymcelled many years in my teens and 20s) then why would any guy hop on gear at all?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6189473/

systemic hormones are mostly irrelevant to your ability to pack on size, what matters is how sensitive your receptors are to the hormones you have + the density of them.

 

[Deleted member 1140]

I challenge you to get a body like that natty , that's like the perfect athletic look that girls want
most men will fail
and when I say mogs 99% of men , I'm comparing him to average guys , not insta fitness influencers obviously

nigga i look much better than that and i could barely lift cuz of my cancer shoulder injuries i had for 5 years

 

[tinderhacker]

textbook awful, weak delts, weak arms and especially petty forearms, over-developed chest with weak upper chest development giving him man-tits, short clavicles, shallow ab insertions and virtually no skeletal tapering hence why he takes virtually all of his pictures from a side angle.

no surprise the only girl he managed to land is not particularly good looking.

Criticizing him from a bb perspective like the autistic sperg that you are.

I’ll put your body on Omegle and clip all the girls puke reacting in the chat

 

[Deleted member 23359]

sometimes i think he's on juice because he's giga autistic workout routine and giga high volume he does

like how in the world you're recovering from 30*30 of over head press

but i think he's got really good genetics and is natty

 

[RetardSubhuman]

he is natty fr nigga is half maori or whatever superior ethnic genetic

 

[makeme183]

There is a combination of things making your body look uncanny. The amount of mass in your shoulders and arms has far exceeded what women find attractive. Refer back to my tonka truck metaphor. Combined with your short limbs your arms look hilarious.

If I showed your body to a girl vs David laid I already know which one is going to get laughed at for looking uncanny.
And youre 6’3 right? At that height your short but bulky arms must look ridiculous

this will change your mind - https://looksmax.org/threads/looxfishing-on-a-jb-app-end-to-prettyboy-twink-copes.637906/

 

[Clown Show]

I don’t understand guys like you. Subconsciously everyone know what women find attractive.


View attachment 2114550It’s this. Juicy and striated


Not this disgusting blob of shit
View attachment 2114549


Did you not think while you were putting on all that mass that you were getting less and less appealing to women? Like what motivates you to wake up and spend your hours looking worst and worst and moving further away from the body type women want to fuck?

What the fuck do you know you loser

 

[HighClassMaxing]

like how in the world you're recovering from 30*30 of over head press

he built up to it. he started with like 5 sets at first

 

[slayer69]

Someone get Coach Full of Shi… Er… I mean Coach Greg in here

 

[Deleted member 23359]

he built up to it. he started with like 5 sets at first

You get worse recovery as you advance bro

When you're new you can handle high volume cuz your body is new to the stimulus so it has to adapt quicker not the contraire

 

[tinderhacker]

this will change your mind - https://looksmax.org/threads/looxfishing-on-a-jb-app-end-to-prettyboy-twink-copes.637906/

I saw that the day it was posted and the dude literally is the opposite, longer limbs, veiny with good separation and even then most if not all the compliments were on the face. When a girl likes your face at that point she’ll make everything work as long as you’re not deformed tier body wise

 

[tinderhacker]

What the fuck do you know you loser

It’s okay bitch. To find out all those hours of working out daily was looksminning and wasted

 

[efidescontinuado]

That shoulders scream juice

 

[Deleted member 17448]

the most suspicious thing is that before shot of him , in which he already mogs 99% of the male population and which was probably his natty peak

but he claims he went from that to his current physique natty,which is hard to believe since you can't put on that much muscle after you have already hit your peak

But he gives good advice and is one of my favourite posters on org

elab ?

Training religiously with great focus on diet and suplementation + training and been close with steroids user and talking with them + doing a lot of research on steroids.

 

[Deleted member 17448]

this is why most people never get big, they think they can main-gain or bulk in a small surplus because they're too afraid to lose their abs.

reality is you don't gain shit unless you're in a consistent surplus for extensive periods of time past the initial noob gains stage where most people stay forever, my bulks were like 8 months or more.

Bullshit, that is good if you are noob or brutally underweight. When you are strong intermediate and onwards bulking will only make you fatter and "look" bigger. Bulking is the biggest meme most men fall into, I see victims of it every day I go to the gym. And I've done lots of bulks on my lifing career (slow and dirty).

 

[smoothsexy]

nigga i look much better than that and i could barely lift cuz of my cancer shoulder injuries i had for 5 years

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Are you injecting or natty?

 

[Deleted member 1140]

Are you injecting or natty?

natty

i would have a 10 times better body tho if i didnt have to stop every 3-4 months cuz of injury

 

[Over]

@Arborist so sad your only validation comes from the internet an incels.

there are two types of people:

- people who accuse others of being fake natty, calling others names for taking steroids

- and other type is big jacked shredded strong dudes with elite strength and body

Blast T

 

[smoothsexy]

natty

i would have a 10 times better body tho if i didnt have to stop every 3-4 months cuz of injury

Perfect body tbh no homo

You have that chad beach body

Can you share your routine and what supplements you taking?

 

[smoothsexy]

there are two types of people:

- people who accuse others of being fake natty, calling others names for taking steroids

- and other type is big jacked shredded strong dudes with elite strength and body

Blast T

You still blasting 500mg how do you keep your face lean while injecting that much? Can you share body pics how you loom right now?

 

[makeme183]

most if not all the compliments were on the face

yeah bro , this is chad face -

looks like a deformed ogre with stringy shoelace hair

just stop the cope

he got those results purely from body alone , your point of girls liking his face is the same as girls calling 6'4 MTN's handsome

I was one of the copers who liked prettyboys , I was blown away after seeing that thread , will probably roid myself in the future

arborist literally has the same upper body as loox , I'm sure he would obliterate tinder if a similar experiment was done

 

[Deleted member 1140]

Perfect body tbh no homo

You have that chad beach body

Can you share your routine and what supplements you taking?

thanks man. my arms and shoulders were pretty small on that pic they are a little bigger now

5 a week pplxpp

vit d 10k ui with k2
protein powder once a day

 

[Over]

You still blasting 500mg how do you keep your face lean while injecting that much? Can you share body pics how you loom right now?

Im now going 750mg because I don’t feel 500 much and I want to get bigger stronger faster.

I keep estrogen under control so I don’t get bloated.

 

[Over]

nigga i look much better than that and i could barely lift cuz of my cancer shoulder injuries i had for 5 years

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What’s your SBD? I wonder how far behind am I

 

[smoothsexy]

Im now going 750mg because I don’t feel 500 much and I want to get bigger stronger faster.

I keep estrogen under control so I don’t get bloated.

Doesnt AI fuck you up? I dont remember but more plates more dates created multiple videos how its better to inject less test with no ai than high test with ai

 

[Over]

Doesnt AI fuck you up? I dont remember but more plates more dates created multiple videos how its better to inject less test with no ai than high test with ai

I don’t feel fucked up. I’ve been on 500mg for 26 weeks and I tolerate it well. Real cycle starts at 750+, I wonder what it does to me hehe can’t wait for another injection.

 

[tinderhacker]

yeah bro , this is chad face -

looks like a deformed ogre with stringy shoelace hair

just stop the cope

he got those results purely from body alone , your point of girls liking his face is the same as girls calling 6'4 MTN's handsome

I was one of the copers who liked prettyboys , I was blown away after seeing that thread , will probably roid myself in the future

arborist literally has the same upper body as loox , I'm sure he would obliterate tinder if a similar experiment was done

Are you fucking retarded.

This was one of the pic used and he literally looks like a vampire slayer. The hair, cuts and dimorphism without appealing to gay lumberjack cuddle buddies like arborist

And wrong. He looks about 10x veinier and more striated than that fluffy faggot arborist

 

[smoothsexy]

I don’t feel fucked up. I’ve been on 500mg for 26 weeks and I tolerate it well. Real cycle starts at 750+, I wonder what it does to me hehe can’t wait for another injection.

Can you share body pics what 26weeks of test got you or you shy?

 

[tinderhacker]

yeah bro , this is chad face -

looks like a deformed ogre with stringy shoelace hair

just stop the cope

he got those results purely from body alone , your point of girls liking his face is the same as girls calling 6'4 MTN's handsome

I was one of the copers who liked prettyboys , I was blown away after seeing that thread , will probably roid myself in the future

arborist literally has the same upper body as loox , I'm sure he would obliterate tinder if a similar experiment was done

Even men find his uncanny body disgusting plus the hairy forearms confirms his lumberjack appeal to gay men.


Don’t ever compare this disgusting faggot to loox

 

[Orc]

Are you fucking retarded.

View attachment 2115043This was one of the pic used and he literally looks like a vampire slayer. The hair, cuts and dimorphism without appealing to gay lumberjack cuddle buddies like arborist

And wrong. He looks about 10x veinier and more striated than that fluffy faggot arborist

the only definition he has is veins from high blood pressure with not a hint of an ab line every single aspect of his body is bloated due to water retention and estrogen, I have more definition than any of your examples, stop the cope.

 

[Over]

Can you share body pics what 26weeks of test got you or you shy?

Nothing special really 500mg of test isn’t that much. I got bigger but I look 100% natty and you would never know I am on cycle.

It’s also because I had terrible start (very low muscle mass), so even with steroids it takes months and months probably years to grow into that level of “wow this dude is jacked as fuck”.

Atm I don’t want to take hard steroids like Tren, I just want to reach my genetic potential fast.

 

[tinderhacker]

the only definition he has is veins from high blood pressure with not a hint of an ab line, I have more definition than any of your examples, stop the cope.

Whatever makes you feel better. Your body looks like someone that has been carb loading all their life while on dbol

Just a fluffy water retented fuck.

 

[Orc]

Whatever makes you feel better. Your body looks like someone that has been carb loading all their life while on dbol

Just a fluffy water retented fuck.

404 water not found.

meanwhile your example of 10x veinier and more striated and less fluffy.

lol, lmao, powerlifters have more definition than this.

 

[Over]

Whatever makes you feel better. Your body looks like someone that has been carb loading all their life while on dbol

Just a fluffy water retented fuck.

Arborist looks elite level idk why you hating on him. I just compare him to everyone on my XXL gym in major city and literally 90% of people have no definition, nothing special going about their strength or physique.

I barely see anyone benching 80kg+ for reps. I barely see anyone deadlifting 140kg+ for reps. One of the biggest dudes I seen has 165kg bench for max.

Very few people look like they lift. Very few people lift with true dedication and intensity.

 

[Deleted member 1140]

What’s your SBD? I wonder how far behind am I

squat was at like 120kg jfl
cant bp for years, doing dumbells 38kg each side
dont deadlift anymore cuz of labrum tear but was never strong at it

im more focussed on bodyweight shit like dips and pull ups, dragon flags etc

 

[Jerryterry129]

brb standing in better light.
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they're 13% bodyfat standing in a dark room with down-lighting directly pointing at them, I take most of my pictures with natural light coming from a window.

That left delt pic is sus asf

If ur not flexing it and it’s like that non flexed and at rest ur prob not natty

That said it looks like standard test cycle if not natty

 

[Orc]

That left delt pic is sus asf

If ur not flexing it and it’s like that non flexed ur prob not natty

it's just harsh lighting, physique pictures are like that and most of the influencers people think are super lean are in reality around 13% bodyfat which is maintainable for most people, they just take pictures with light directly pointed at their body in a dark room which makes them look way leaner because it highlights and vague cut you might have which they then edit with light-room + airbrush.

I purposely take my pictures in less than ideal conditions because it doesn't give off the gymcel vibe that influencer pictures tend to have, women prefer this and don't want to see your delt veins and striations.

 

[Deleted member 17448]

there are two types of people:

- people who accuse others of being fake natty, calling others names for taking steroids

- and other type is big jacked shredded strong dudes with elite strength and body

Blast T

Say bye to your body, hair and collagen in a few years. Meanwhile I will be on my 30s still slaying 18yo. You are all so shortsighted.

You roiders are accelerating your hair loss and giving a lot of stress to your organs (including your skin).

You are coping so hard because you don't get women or money, your only hopes in life are thinking you are something because you have an steroid like physique. Having everything: body, money, women, hair, youth, that's what I choose. You think maxing your physique to steroid levels will solve your life, fools.

 

[Artemis]

brb standing in better light.
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they're 13% bodyfat standing in a dark room with down-lighting directly pointing at them, I take most of my pictures with natural light coming from a window.

Bitch, if you are natural, I am the Pope

 

[Artemis]

I don't understand the point of bulk and cut

Because it is a theory FOR RETARDS.

The muscles can be gained even with calorie deficit. All that matters is sufficient protein (not much) and positive nitrogen balance (which steroids give). The calories come from burning fats.

 

[Jerryterry129]

it's just harsh lighting, physique pictures are like that and most of the influencers people think are super lean are in reality around 13% bodyfat which is maintainable for most people, they just take pictures with light directly pointed at their body in a dark room which makes them look way leaner because it highlights and vague cut you might have which they then edit with light-room + airbrush.

I purposely take my pictures in less than ideal conditions because it doesn't give off the gymcel vibe that influencer pictures tend to have, women prefer this and don't want to see your delt veins and striations.

It’s not about the striations

It’s your delt that’s popping and circular/round which and what looks like ur at rest? Or not?

Idk are u at rest in that pic? That’s what matters

Pretty much 100% of nattys will not have circular round popping delts when at complete rest and not flexxing.

If ur flexxing ur delt then that could be natty but I can’t tell if ur flexxing or at rest

 

[sanctificatus]

it's just harsh lighting, physique pictures are like that and most of the influencers people think are super lean are in reality around 13% bodyfat which is maintainable for most people, they just take pictures with light directly pointed at their body in a dark room which makes them look way leaner because it highlights and vague cut you might have which they then edit with light-room + airbrush.

I purposely take my pictures in less than ideal conditions because it doesn't give off the gymcel vibe that influencer pictures tend to have, women prefer this and don't want to see your delt veins and striations.

I read the thread and pretty much 99% of what you said is on point