Are Afghans "Central Asians" or "South Asians"?

[Gengar]

Afghans see themselves as Central Asian and not South Asian. Officially, it's said Afghanistan is at the crossroads of Central Asia and South Asia, meaning there's an unbiased, neutral stance regarding Afghanistan's geographical location.

Therefore, I always called Afghans neither Central Asian nor South Asian, but rather Central Asian/South Asian, or CASA.

However, I think I have found a solution to this problem.

So, I have come to a conclusion as to how we should group Afghans in. Are they Central Asians? Or are they South Asians? Afghans themselves will say Central Asians. But they are obviously biased since they do not wish to be grouped together with the likes of Bangladesh, India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. They seemingly forgot about Nepal, or maybe that's the only country they really like. But let's be honest, Nepal is frickin' cool.

I propose that we take a look at the map of Afghanistan and then dissect its territory on ethnic lines. Afghanistan is a multi-ethnic country and therefore heterogenous. For the sake of simplicity, let's focus on the two main ethnic groups in Afghanistan.

First, you have the Tajiks who occupy Northern Afghanistan. They are the second-largest ethnic group in Afghanistan and noticeably different from the other ethnic groups.

Second, you have the Pashtuns who occupy Eastern Afghanistan and Southern Afghanistan.

Simply put, if we divide Afghanistan based on ethnical lines, that leads us to a Northern Tajik portion and an Eastern and Southern Pashtun portion.

Now, Tajiks are not only native to Afghanistan, but also to a bordering country: Tajikistan. Tajikistan is a part of Central Asia.

Also, Pashtuns are not only native to Afghanistan, but also to a bordering country: Pakistan. Pakistan is a part of South Asia

So we must identify the Northern part of the country with Central Asia. And the Southern part of the country with South Asia.

In conclusion: Tajiks are Central Asians and Pashtuns are South Asian.

If the term "Afghan" is synonymous to "Pashtun" then Afghans must no longer falsely claim that they are Central Asians instead of South Asians. In reality, however, that is the past definition. The modern-day definition of "Afghan" applies to every Afghan citizen, including Tajiks - therefore the only Afghans who can call themselves Central Asian are Tajiks.

 

[Gengar]

Tagging some curry bhais:

@SunniMogger @Ryan @Celexawer @heightface @pashtun @ascendedd @sytyl @Shrek2OnDvD @Preston @5ft1 @indianoutlaw @indianascenion @justinzayn @SubhumanCurrycel @FailedNormieManlet @Anchor_Ship

 

[Gengar]

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But why, bhai? I used reason and logic.

 

[SunniMogger]

Afghans see themselves as Central Asian and not South Asian. Officially, it's said Afghanistan is at the crossroads of Central Asia and South Asia, meaning there's an unbiased, neutral stance regarding Afghanistan's geographical location.

Therefore, I always called Afghans neither Central Asian nor South Asian, but rather Central Asian/South Asian, or CASA.

However, I think I have found a solution to this problem.

So, I have come to a conclusion as to how we should group Afghans in. Are they Central Asians? Or are they South Asians? Afghans themselves will say Central Asians. But they are obviously biased since they do not wish to be grouped together with the likes of Bangladesh, India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. They seemingly forgot about Nepal, or maybe that's the only country they really like. But let's be honest, Nepal is frickin' cool.

I propose that we take a look at the map of Afghanistan and then dissect its territory on ethnic lines. Afghanistan is a multi-ethnic country and therefore heterogenous. For the sake of simplicity, let's focus on the two main ethnic groups in Afghanistan.

First, you have the Tajiks who occupy Northern Afghanistan. They are the second-largest ethnic group in Afghanistan and noticeably different from the other ethnic groups.

Second, you have the Pashtuns who occupy Eastern Afghanistan and Southern Afghanistan.

Simply put, if we divide Afghanistan based on ethnical lines, that leads us to a Northern Tajik portion and an Eastern and Southern Pashtun portion.

Now, Tajiks are not only native to Afghanistan, but also to a bordering country: Tajikistan. Tajikistan is a part of Central Asia.

Also, Pashtuns are not only native to Afghanistan, but also to a bordering country: Pakistan. Pakistan is a part of South Asia

So we must identify the Northern part of the country with Central Asia. And the Southern part of the country with South Asia.

In conclusion: Tajiks are Central Asians and Pashtuns are South Asian.

If the term "Afghan" is synonymous to "Pashtun" then Afghans must no longer falsely claim that they are Central Asians instead of South Asians. In reality, however, that is the past definition. The modern-day definition of "Afghan" applies to every Afghan citizen, including Tajiks - therefore the only Afghans who can call themselves Central Asian are Tajiks.

Pashtuns coming to this thread

 

[Anchor_Ship]

Why did I get tagged wtf

 

[Jagged0]

Afghans see themselves as Central Asian and not South Asian. Officially, it's said Afghanistan is at the crossroads of Central Asia and South Asia, meaning there's an unbiased, neutral stance regarding Afghanistan's geographical location.

Therefore, I always called Afghans neither Central Asian nor South Asian, but rather Central Asian/South Asian, or CASA.

However, I think I have found a solution to this problem.

So, I have come to a conclusion as to how we should group Afghans in. Are they Central Asians? Or are they South Asians? Afghans themselves will say Central Asians. But they are obviously biased since they do not wish to be grouped together with the likes of Bangladesh, India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. They seemingly forgot about Nepal, or maybe that's the only country they really like. But let's be honest, Nepal is frickin' cool.

I propose that we take a look at the map of Afghanistan and then dissect its territory on ethnic lines. Afghanistan is a multi-ethnic country and therefore heterogenous. For the sake of simplicity, let's focus on the two main ethnic groups in Afghanistan.

First, you have the Tajiks who occupy Northern Afghanistan. They are the second-largest ethnic group in Afghanistan and noticeably different from the other ethnic groups.

Second, you have the Pashtuns who occupy Eastern Afghanistan and Southern Afghanistan.

Simply put, if we divide Afghanistan based on ethnical lines, that leads us to a Northern Tajik portion and an Eastern and Southern Pashtun portion.

Now, Tajiks are not only native to Afghanistan, but also to a bordering country: Tajikistan. Tajikistan is a part of Central Asia.

Also, Pashtuns are not only native to Afghanistan, but also to a bordering country: Pakistan. Pakistan is a part of South Asia

So we must identify the Northern part of the country with Central Asia. And the Southern part of the country with South Asia.

In conclusion: Tajiks are Central Asians and Pashtuns are South Asian.

If the term "Afghan" is synonymous to "Pashtun" then Afghans must no longer falsely claim that they are Central Asians instead of South Asians. In reality, however, that is the past definition. The modern-day definition of "Afghan" applies to every Afghan citizen, including Tajiks - therefore the only Afghans who can call themselves Central Asian are Tajiks.

The country is so diverse with all the migration and invasions grouping it as one or the other doesn't do justice

 

[Jason Voorhees]

But why, bhai? I used reason and logic.

I agree with you. I posted that pic just so i could get reps from some racist sfcel. I'll delete that post since this seems like a serious thread

 

[SunniMogger]

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The country is so diverse with all the migration and invasions grouping it as one or the other doesn't do justice

Pashtuns after learnign they are South Asians

 

[Deleted member 16371]

Afghans are only 30% curry the rest is iranic

 

[190cm90kg]

truth is somewhere in the middle

 

[Truecel14]

Afghanistan is curry unfortunately. According to Google they are located in south Asia.

Do these countries actually hate the label of being indian so much that they wan't to change geography? Surely there is some greater geopolitical perspective than they just hate curries.

 

[Prettyboy]

Neither, Afghanistan was meant to be a no man’s land between empires

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

Depends I have an Afghan I friend who looks Asian probably due to Mongolian DNA but others look completely curry so idk

 

[Deleted member 16371]

Neither, Afghanistan was meant to be a no man’s land between empires

This makes sense why afghanistan people are the most unique moggers on the planet

 

[Deleted member 16371]

Neither, Afghanistan was meant to be a no man’s land between empires

This is the end of the argument. They’ve got genetics from all 3 sides Pakistan Iran and Turkic countries so they’re going to end up the most diverse gigamoggers on the planet

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Pashtuns after learnign they are South Asians

I personally think it is even more nuanced. Pakistani pashtuns definitely cluster in with other south Asians while for the Afghans it's a mixed bag

 

[Deleted member 22063]

afghans are ethnics like persians and kurds

 

[Deleted member 17531]

You have to divide it into ethnic groups
Hazaras look like Kazakhs, they are central asian
Pashtuns and the rest are south asian

 

[Deprived]

afghans are ethnics like persians and kurds

Thanks sherlock

 

[Deleted member 22063]

Thanks sherlock

ya so thtey aren't central or south asians theyre just regular ethnics. central asians are like Kazakhs

 

[Deprived]

You have to divide it into ethnic groups
Hazaras look like Kazakhs, they are central asian
Pashtuns and the rest are south asian

What about Tajiks in Afghanistan? Tajiksistan is considered central asia while Afghanistan is considered south asia.

Dividing by geographical location isn't accurate in determining ethnicity when there are multiple ethnic groups ocupying a small area, it's too much of an oversimplification. Tajiks are supposed to be closely related to persians but many of them look central asian (not as much as hazaras ofc)

And pashtuns have some indian blood but look nothing like an Indian from Sri Lanka or something, despite both of them technically being "south asian"

 

[Deprived]

ya so thtey aren't central or south asians theyre just regular ethnics. central asians are like Kazakhs

You have no idea how stupid you sound right now

 

[Deleted member 22063]

You have no idea how stupid you sound right now

pashtuns have much more iranian ancestry than indigenous desi or turkic than anything else or that's certainly how they look

they fall under the broad category of being generic ethnics in PSL lingo and it would be misleading to refer to them as south asian (synonym for desi) or central asian which 9/10 refers to some asiatic looking person. punjab people are a mixed bag i think.

these geographic terms are geopolitical in origin and are meaningless. you can make the argument that afghanistan is geopolitically in the middle east.

 

[Deprived]

pashtuns have much more iranian ancestry than indigenous desi or turkic than anything else or that's certainly how they look

they fall under the broad category of being generic ethnics in PSL lingo and it would be misleading to refer to them as south asian (synonym for desi) or central asian which 9/10 refers to some asiatic looking person

these geographic terms are geopolitical in origin and are meaningless

Ah okay I agree. Misunderstood what you meant by "generic ethnics"

 

[.🇹🇩.]

they are shitskins just like other indians. so basically deathnik. over in the west.

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Afghans see themselves as Central Asian and not South Asian. Officially, it's said Afghanistan is at the crossroads of Central Asia and South Asia, meaning there's an unbiased, neutral stance regarding Afghanistan's geographical location.

Therefore, I always called Afghans neither Central Asian nor South Asian, but rather Central Asian/South Asian, or CASA.

However, I think I have found a solution to this problem.

So, I have come to a conclusion as to how we should group Afghans in. Are they Central Asians? Or are they South Asians? Afghans themselves will say Central Asians. But they are obviously biased since they do not wish to be grouped together with the likes of Bangladesh, India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. They seemingly forgot about Nepal, or maybe that's the only country they really like. But let's be honest, Nepal is frickin' cool.

I propose that we take a look at the map of Afghanistan and then dissect its territory on ethnic lines. Afghanistan is a multi-ethnic country and therefore heterogenous. For the sake of simplicity, let's focus on the two main ethnic groups in Afghanistan.

First, you have the Tajiks who occupy Northern Afghanistan. They are the second-largest ethnic group in Afghanistan and noticeably different from the other ethnic groups.

Second, you have the Pashtuns who occupy Eastern Afghanistan and Southern Afghanistan.

Simply put, if we divide Afghanistan based on ethnical lines, that leads us to a Northern Tajik portion and an Eastern and Southern Pashtun portion.

Now, Tajiks are not only native to Afghanistan, but also to a bordering country: Tajikistan. Tajikistan is a part of Central Asia.

Also, Pashtuns are not only native to Afghanistan, but also to a bordering country: Pakistan. Pakistan is a part of South Asia

So we must identify the Northern part of the country with Central Asia. And the Southern part of the country with South Asia.

In conclusion: Tajiks are Central Asians and Pashtuns are South Asian.

If the term "Afghan" is synonymous to "Pashtun" then Afghans must no longer falsely claim that they are Central Asians instead of South Asians. In reality, however, that is the past definition. The modern-day definition of "Afghan" applies to every Afghan citizen, including Tajiks - therefore the only Afghans who can call themselves Central Asian are Tajiks.

Central Asians because they have more in common with Iran and their "stan" brothers than India and Sri Lanka.

 

[Deleted member 16369]

They're curry. End of story

 

[Deleted member 21766]

Doesn’t matter. They’re all brown.

 

[Deleted member 20652]

Geographically they are west asian.

//Thomas DOM

 

[Deleted member 14262]

Afghans live in this pakicels skull free of charge.

 

[Magical Apple]

Afghans see themselves as Central Asian and not South Asian. Officially, it's said Afghanistan is at the crossroads of Central Asia and South Asia, meaning there's an unbiased, neutral stance regarding Afghanistan's geographical location.

Therefore, I always called Afghans neither Central Asian nor South Asian, but rather Central Asian/South Asian, or CASA.

However, I think I have found a solution to this problem.

So, I have come to a conclusion as to how we should group Afghans in. Are they Central Asians? Or are they South Asians? Afghans themselves will say Central Asians. But they are obviously biased since they do not wish to be grouped together with the likes of Bangladesh, India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. They seemingly forgot about Nepal, or maybe that's the only country they really like. But let's be honest, Nepal is frickin' cool.

I propose that we take a look at the map of Afghanistan and then dissect its territory on ethnic lines. Afghanistan is a multi-ethnic country and therefore heterogenous. For the sake of simplicity, let's focus on the two main ethnic groups in Afghanistan.

First, you have the Tajiks who occupy Northern Afghanistan. They are the second-largest ethnic group in Afghanistan and noticeably different from the other ethnic groups.

Second, you have the Pashtuns who occupy Eastern Afghanistan and Southern Afghanistan.

Simply put, if we divide Afghanistan based on ethnical lines, that leads us to a Northern Tajik portion and an Eastern and Southern Pashtun portion.

Now, Tajiks are not only native to Afghanistan, but also to a bordering country: Tajikistan. Tajikistan is a part of Central Asia.

Also, Pashtuns are not only native to Afghanistan, but also to a bordering country: Pakistan. Pakistan is a part of South Asia

So we must identify the Northern part of the country with Central Asia. And the Southern part of the country with South Asia.

In conclusion: Tajiks are Central Asians and Pashtuns are South Asian.

If the term "Afghan" is synonymous to "Pashtun" then Afghans must no longer falsely claim that they are Central Asians instead of South Asians. In reality, however, that is the past definition. The modern-day definition of "Afghan" applies to every Afghan citizen, including Tajiks - therefore the only Afghans who can call themselves Central Asian are Tajiks.

hazara and tajik are central asians

pashtun are currycels

 

[Gengar]

hazara and tajik are central asians

pashtun are currycels

Yes, that's basically a TL;DR of this thread. But I put it into words with insight and usage of geography & most of all: logic. I remember you were Afghan so I assumed you'd be talking shit in this thread but to my surprise, you say what I say. Are you a Tajik?

 

[ihatereddit]

some of them look curry others look like moggers its a very diverse region pheno wise tbqh

 

[Gengar]

Why did I get tagged wtf

Because you're South Asian.

 

[Gengar]

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The country is so diverse with all the migration and invasions grouping it as one or the other doesn't do justice

These are said to be the descendents of the Mongols that once ruled Afghanistan. Makes sense.

 

[Gengar]

Afghanistan is curry unfortunately. According to Google they are located in south Asia.

Do these countries actually hate the label of being indian so much that they wan't to change geography? Surely there is some greater geopolitical perspective than they just hate curries.

No, they just really hate curries. Lol.

 

[Gengar]

Neither, Afghanistan was meant to be a no man’s land between empires

You are taking the view of a 20th century imperialist. That's not an accurate view.

 

[Gengar]

Depends I have an Afghan I friend who looks Asian probably due to Mongolian DNA but others look completely curry so idk

The Asian ones are Central Asian, as you theorized, they do have Mongol DNA. Others look curry because they're South Asian and also have noticeable amount of Ancestral Indian ancestry.

 

[Gengar]

This is the end of the argument. They’ve got genetics from all 3 sides Pakistan Iran and Turkic countries so they’re going to end up the most diverse gigamoggers on the planet

Actually, the most diverse people in the regions are Indians and Pakistanis.. not Iranians and Turkic countries.

 

[Anchor_Ship]

Because you're South Asian.

I’m not retard Kys

 

[Gengar]

You have to divide it into ethnic groups
Hazaras look like Kazakhs, they are central asian
Pashtuns and the rest are south asian

Yes. But Tajiks are also Central Asian, despite not looking Asian. This is because pre-Mongol Empire / Turkic migrations, originally speaking, Central Asia belonged to Indo-Europeans.

 

[Gengar]

I’m not retard Kys

Fucking faggot. You're curry now, deal with it.

 

[andy9432]

I know it is cherrypicked but some nuristanis look 100% white

Explain this? I know most nuristanis dont look white

 

[Anchor_Ship]

Fucking faggot. You're curry now, deal with it.

Fuck you lunatic , down with your curry fantasies you are @justinzayn from wish

 

[Gengar]

Geographically they are west asian.

//Thomas DOM

West Asia actually ends with Iran, Thomas bhai.

 

[Gengar]

I know it is cherrypicked but some nuristanis look 100% whiteView attachment 1979978

Explain this? I know most nuristanis dont look white

Nuristanis are Dardic. They are not Iranic-speaking peoples like Pashtuns and Tajiks and Hazaras.

 

[Gengar]

Fuck you lunatic , down with your curry fantasies you are @justinzayn from wish

Justin is a mogger keep crying for him.

 

[justinzayn]

Fuck you lunatic , down with your curry fantasies you are @justinzayn from wish

I didn't called you curry, or have any problem with you
Why roast me lol?
I have no curry fantasy

 

[Gengar]

some of them look curry others look like moggers its a very diverse region pheno wise tbqh

Yes, it's a diverse country. The ones who look curry are either Pashtun or Tajik (even though Tajiks are Central Asian).

 

[Gengar]

I didn't called you curry, or have any problem with you
Why roast me?

'Cause he's a faggot.