Are chin tucks cope?

[Leo_2912]

Are Chin tucks cope? People told me that it would give your forward growth and a better jawline. But idk if it’s real or not and if I should do them or not

 

[Anakin_10k]

who the fuck is faceiq

Raw diet coper aswell but even him isnt biased as much as u

 

[D69mo]

god how can u cope like this , u watch to much faceiq shit

I used to watch goatis but he never spoke about this topic that deeply

 

[Anakin_10k]

I used to watch goatis but he never spoke about this topic that deeply

Cuz he dont know shi abt science and genes obv , a primal diet is only good for health and skin and weight lose and all that shi that it

 

[Leo_2912]

who the fuck is faceiq

A looksmaxxer on YouTube

 

[6”3neartyronelite]

goatis lvl of knwoledge , standard dev exist for a reason lolView attachment 5107239and literally craniofacial is genetic , never heard of genetic recombinasion?????????????diet cope lol , why do we still have chads w robust skulll who grew up on goyslops diet like u can literally google all what I fucking said , the diet cope must stop its literally simple : genetic set the selling , epigenetic or environnement develop u and then the outcome like literally basic science

unless you have some deformity if you have good habits during childhood and good nutrition you will develop well and in turn be attractive “epigenetics” Muh guess how their expressed from environmental factors like what you eat and what forces guide how your skull is formed like tongue posture biting food with incisors etc. 90% of ugly people have an underlying developmental issue quite rarely is it genetics alone

 

[Anakin_10k]

unless you have some deformity if you have good habits during childhood and good nutrition you will develop well and in turn be attractive “epigenetics” Muh guess how their expressed from environmental factors like what you eat and what forces guide how your skull is formed like tongue posture biting food with incisors etc. 90% of ugly people have an underlying developmental issue quite rarely is it genetics alone

The schemes is , genetic ( define the limit of developement ) > epigenetics receptor ( fixed genetics choose how you react to surroundings ) > epigenetic itself (
you respond based of your epigenetic modulators from environemental imput like diet etc etc yk ) > outcome (the way your body changed based of your epigenetic modulators + epigenetics ) literally scientific explaination of ur look is made , ofc a recession and a maloclusion is not normal but having a normal developement and not being recessed doesnt mean u look good , tbh an average guy isnt recessed

 

[6”3neartyronelite]

The schemes is , genetic ( define the limit of developement ) > epigenetics receptor ( fixed genetics choose how you react to surroundings ) > epigenetic itself (
you respond based of your epigenetic modulators from environemental imput like diet etc etc yk ) > outcome (the way your body changed based of your epigenetic modulators + epigenetics ) literally scientific explaination of ur look is made , ofc a recession and a maloclusion is not normal but having a normal developement and not being recessed doesnt mean u look good , tbh an average guy isnt recessed

What separates average people and goodlooking people is developmental. Perfect tongue posture and enough mechanical tension on the jaw =wide jaw + Midface forwardly grown face etc. Key make or break traits, average person is slightly recessed and lacking that nowadays I do think that genetics do play a large role though yea but I think development is 60-70% of importance in deciding overall attractiveness for sure. Some people will be chadded regardless like nobody is looking like Josh mcgregor doesn’t matter how your childhood was but average genetics with elite development is going to take u extremely far

 

[Anakin_10k]

What separates average people and goodlooking people is developmental. Perfect tongue posture and enough mechanical tension on the jaw =wide jaw + Midface forwardly grown face etc. Key make or break traits, average person is slightly recessed and lacking that nowadays I do think that genetics do play a large role though yea but I think development is 60-70% of importance in deciding overall attractiveness for sure. Some people will be chadded regardless like nobody is looking like Josh mcgregor doesn’t matter how your childhood was but average genetics with elite development is going to take u extremely far

looool bro pls go read some anthropology books pls I beg u and stop trusting what u see on tiktok , most of the thing u js said are genotype and phenotype related , and posture tongue and shi are literally epigenetic shi, that why in primal tribe w perfect natural environnement diet and posture and stressless life u still difference and not everyone is mogger , what u js said here is literally epigenetic and it doesnt debunk my statement at all , its js environement to grow properly obv if u have bad enviroenement u will not reach ur potential lol , but why do u think twin w perfect tongue posture and with the same diet dont have the same output ? literally cuz of genes even among the same phenotype we see difference and deviation like that fucking water take how do I have to explain this to u , stop believe shi u see on tiktok perfect tongue posture will not give u damian kater sphenoid

 

[Peco]

i feed both w the same shi and they look different like this is a common schemes and they still look different , also the study I send literally prove that we all have a genetic celling for our craniofacial developpement stop ignoring those on purpose pls

I mean we obviously have a ceiling, as we do for anything. What are you trying to prove with those studies ?

 

[Anakin_10k]

I mean we obviously have a ceiling, as we do for anything. What are you trying to prove with those studies ?

that a good diet will not give u Rira skull , that we arent equal no matter what our diet or environment is and that even perfect environement will not make u attractive and neither bad environement will make u unnattractive , its fully based on genes , ur maximum is some1 minimum and vice versa

 

[Peco]

that a good diet will not give u Rira skull , that we arent equal no matter what our diet or environment is and that even perfect environement will not make u attractive and neither bad environement will make u unnattractive , its fully based on genes , ur maximum is some1 minimum and vice versa

The studies don't prove that. I read the results of the studies quickly but from what I could see they just showed how genes affect your face and had some graphs of the features that had the highest heritability. They never say your face is fully based on genes, just that it is affected by them (which we obviously all agree on)

 

[6”3neartyronelite]

I jusy asked grok about what u said seems im quite wrong well then u learn something new everyday i guess im a lot more genetically gifted than I thought

looool bro pls go read some anthropology books pls I beg u and stop trusting what u see on tiktok , most of the thing u js said are genotype and phenotype related , and posture tongue and shi are literally epigenetic shi, that why in primal tribe w perfect natural environnement diet and posture and stressless life u still difference and not everyone is mogger , what u js said here is literally epigenetic and it doesnt debunk my statement at all , its js environement to grow properly obv if u have bad enviroenement u will not reach ur potential lol , but why do u think twin w perfect tongue posture and with the same diet dont have the same output ? literally cuz of genes even among the same phenotype we see difference and deviation like that fucking water take how do I have to explain this to u , stop believe shi u see on tiktok perfect tongue posture will not give u damian kater sphenoid

 

[Anakin_10k]

The studies don't prove that. I read the results of the studies quickly but from what I could see they just showed how genes affect your face and had some graphs of the features that had the highest heritability. They never say your face is fully based on genes, just that it is affected by them (which we obviously all agree on)

the words of another study named by " Genome wide association study reveals novel associations with face morphology" HERE ARE THE WORDS : "The heritability of craniofacial morphology is 0.80 for parents and offspring, and 0.41–0.86 based on twin studies, suggesting that face morphology is strongly determined by genetic."

 

[Anakin_10k]

I jusy asked grok about what u said seems im quite wrong well then u learn something new everyday i guess im a lot more genetically gifted than I thought

wtf gentically gifted u talk abt bro I dont understand and maybe for genotype and phenotype part im wrong but yh genetic literally put a celling to ur facial developpement I ask IA too then

yh clearly debunked , love on u my black brother

 

[Anakin_10k]

wtf gentically gifted u talk abt bro I dont understand and maybe for genotype and phenotype part im wrong but yh genetic literally put a celling to ur facial developpement I ask IA too then View attachment 5107554 yh clearly debunked , love on u my black brother

@Peco for u too this is what I am trying to prove

like if u were confused abt what I was talking abt

 

[Peco]

the words of another study named by " Genome wide association study reveals novel associations with face morphology" HERE ARE THE WORDS : "The heritability of craniofacial morphology is 0.80 for parents and offspring, and 0.41–0.86 based on twin studies, suggesting that face morphology is strongly determined by genetic."

I'm reading the study right now and can't find those words in the results or conclusions. Can you send a screenshot from the study ?

 

[D69mo]

Raw diet coper aswell but even him isnt biased as much as u

I agree on height and that genetics play a rule in some development in the face but In my view certain bones can exceed their gentic limitation

 

[Anakin_10k]

I'm reading the study right now and can't find those words in the results or conclusions. Can you send a screenshot from the study ?

here u got king

 

[Anakin_10k]

I agree on height and that genetics play a rule in some development in the face but In my view certain bones can exceed their gentic limitation

also all the bones in the face develop equaly like normal bones , we also have plates that fuses in our face like this is ridiculous how u still say this after I provided an enormous amount of proof , pls stop being biased pls

 

[Peco]

View attachment 5107596 here u got king

Yeah but the study they link to prove that stamente is this one: https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3933. I haven't read it but it doesn't seem to be about facial morphology.

 

[Peco]

Yeah but the study they link to prove that stamente is this one: https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3933. I haven't read it but it doesn't seem to be about facial morphology.

I tried searching the keywords morphology and craniofacial in this study but haven't found any results

 

[Anakin_10k]

Yeah but the study they link to prove that stamente is this one: https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3933. I haven't read it but it doesn't seem to be about facial morphology.

The link between the two papers comes down to a concept called pleiotropy—when one single gene or a cluster of genes controls multiple different, seemingly unrelated physical traits

 

[Anakin_10k]

I tried searching the keywords morphology and craniofacial in this study but haven't found any results

The link between the two papers comes down to a concept called pleiotropy—when one single gene or a cluster of genes controls multiple different, seemingly unrelated physical traits

also that later in the study we got the experiences and actual study dones by doing craniofacial measurement and that prove that feautures and width are related to genes

 

[D69mo]

View attachment 5107597View attachment 5107600 also all the bones in the face develop equaly like normal bones , we also have plates that fuses in our face like this is ridiculous how u still say this after I provided an enormous amount of proof , pls stop being biased pls

70% to 80% are genetics the rest of your bones are epigenetic

 

[scrcel]

It can help to fix your posture and I think it can help better your hyoid as well ? other than that it doesnt really do much

 

[Anakin_10k]

70% to 80% are genetics the rest of your bones are epigenetic
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yh literally prove my point ty

 

[D69mo]

yh literally prove my point ty

I never said all the bones in your face are epigenetic btw

 

[Anakin_10k]

I never said all the bones in your face are epigenetic btw

wtf is this nga talking abt " all the bones in ur face are epigenetic " this sentence literally hve no scientific sense like u are just spelling shit son , and I literally send paragraph and study debunking everything u said so far , stop the cope

 

[Peco]

The link between the two papers comes down to a concept called pleiotropy—when one single gene or a cluster of genes controls multiple different, seemingly unrelated physical traits

AI gave you this answer did it not ? I don't care about what AI says, the study pulls those numbers out and links a study that doesn't even mention craniofacial bones or morphology. I will try to search the numbers as keywords to see if there is some relation with that

 

[Anakin_10k]

AI gave you this answer did it not ? I don't care about what AI says, the study pulls those numbers out and links a study that doesn't even mention craniofacial bones or morphology. I will try to search the numbers as keywords to see if there is some relation with that

It mention genes , and if u arent satisfied of this study I can literally send 10 millions of others at will , that literally the most basic science ever I cannot understand how u arent agreeing tbh

 

[Peco]

It mention genes

Yeah but the study you sent gives very specific numbers and links a study that is not related to those in any way. I tried searching the numbers 0.80 and the range 0.41-0.86 and the only one mentioned was 0.80 but in an unrelated context (you can check yourself). The claim "The heritability of craniofacial morphology is 0.80 for parents and offspring, and 0.41–0.86 based on twin studies, suggesting that face morphology is strongly determined by genetic factors" seems unjustified.

, and if u arent satisfied of this study I can literally send 10 millions of others at will , that literally the most basic science ever I cannot understand how u arent agreeing tbh

The others you sent before only said that genetic affect facial features, not that they fully determine them.

 

[BrutalN2L]

believe me a lot of the development is heavily dependent on diet

It’s not there’s almost no chads who grew up eating healthy diets and many have said they ate whatever slop they wanted

 

[Anakin_10k]

It’s not there’s almost no chads who grew up eating healthy diets and many have said they ate whatever slop they wanted

Js tell them bro they are so fucking biased I swear

Yeah but the study you sent gives very specific numbers and links a study that is not related to those in any way. I tried searching the numbers 0.80 and the range 0.41-0.86 and the only one mentioned was 0.80 but in an unrelated context (you can check yourself). The claim "The heritability of craniofacial morphology is 0.80 for parents and offspring, and 0.41–0.86 based on twin studies, suggesting that face morphology is strongly determined by genetic factors" seems unjustified.

The others you sent before only said that genetic affect facial features, not that they fully determine them.

Alr ill send studies and explaination tommorow but u are a hard one , dw I ll debunk this too

 

[Peco]

Js tell them bro they are so fucking biased I swear

I'm not biased at all, I'm open to changing my mind but the studies you sent don't prove what you are trying to claim.

Alr ill send studies and explaination tommorow but u are a hard one , dw I ll debunk this too

 

[Anakin_10k]

I'm not biased at all, I'm open to changing my mind but the studies you sent don't prove what you are trying to claim.

I will sent more studies tommorow but alr

 

[ropemaxxer00]

dnr https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29459680/

https://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pgen.1002932

https://elifesciences.org/articles/49898

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5395823/

The studies you sent directly support the thesis seems like you didnt read your own studies jfl

 

[Anakin_10k]

The studies you sent directly support the thesis seems like you didnt read your own studies jfl

View attachment 5107597View attachment 5107600 also all the bones in the face develop equaly like normal bones , we also have plates that fuses in our face like this is ridiculous how u still say this after I provided an enormous amount of proof , pls stop being biased pls

 

[ropemaxxer00]

Literally what i said? I said its 50% determined by your genes