Are LTBs more likely to approach and give overt IOIs, or does it just depend on the attractiveness gap?

[enchanted_elixir]

Please give me an answer or else I'm going to go insane.

I feel like less attractive women are more likely to give me good IOIs and more likely to approach or just make it obvious, sometimes MTBs but I feel like MTBs are more likely to conceal it and are less likely to approach.

I feel like I'm going to go insane because I can't mind read MTBs, while LTBs are easier.

 

[Node]

Iois=penis in vagina

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Had this woman today I felt like she either no longer liked me (i didn't give her IOIs) but the LTBs would be stubborn and keep trying.

I need all the dating advice help I can get.

So there’s this woman I saw about a week ago. The first time, I caught her staring at me once—I thought nothing of it. But today, she came in and then she decided to sit right across from me again (moderate distance, facing me), and she started staring again, this time for longer. When I...

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[Sceptical]

I feel like less attractive women are more likely to give me good IOIs and more likely to approach or just make it obvious

ltbs will conceal their attraction to you more than an average becky

 

[enchanted_elixir]

ltbs will conceal their attraction to you more than an average becky

Why do you say this? This certainly has not been my experience.

 

[ybuyhgui]

ltbs will conceal their attraction to you more than an average becky

not in my experience tbh

 

[ybuyhgui]

Why do you say this. This certainly has not been my experience.

yup

 

[GynoGladiator]

I get more voluntary interactions from ltbs than mts/hbs, Idk if that means anything but its always what ive noticed

 

[enchanted_elixir]

I get more voluntary interactions from ltbs than mts/hbs, Idk if that means anything but its always what ive noticed

Like them trying to interact with you?

 

[mrdouchebag]

The less attractive the person, the more effort they will put in to get the people they want. It's not rocket science.

 

[Sceptical]

Why do you say this. This certainly has not been my experience.

ltbs are far more insecure and self conscious about themselves to give an ioi or approach someone out of their league unless they're delusional or their friend has given them false confidence

 

[GynoGladiator]

Like them trying to interact with you?

Yeah they're more likely to start coversation with me

But I am in hs so idk

 

[ybuyhgui]

I get more voluntary interactions from ltbs than mts/hbs, Idk if that means anything but its always what ive noticed

The logic of ltb's having higher standards usually stems from the fact that they get gassed up constantly by their friends, more so as opposed to a htb, who most girls will feel envious and jealous of, and therefore not compliment.

Although I think this logic is flawed, no matter how many people tell me i'm chad, realistically i'd know from both the mirror, as well as female interactions that i'm not. Pretty sure most ltb's know where they stand in reality.

 

[kranerman23123]

Please give me an answer or else I'm going to go insane.

I feel like less attractive women are more likely to give me good IOIs and more likely to approach or just make it obvious, sometimes MTBs but I feel like MTBs are more likely to conceal it and are less likely to approach.

I feel like I'm going to go insane because I can't mind read MTBs, while LTBs are easier.

ltbs approach mtns, they know not to approaach htn+ because fear of rejection. If you get approached by ltbs it means youre a normie or below

 

[enchanted_elixir]

The less attractive the person, the more effort they will put in to get the people they want. It's not rocket science.

This has been my experience. This one LTB Cuban lady would invade my person space, BEGGED ME TO GO TO THE BEACH WITH HER AND HER PARENTS!!!!! Bought me cookies daily, try to hold my arm, try to touch me, took me in her car within 3 hours of meeting her, always smiled at me... I have so much to say but she was literally the definition of down bad holy shit.

 

[ybuyhgui]

This has been my experience. This one LTB Cuban lady would invade my person space, BEGGED ME TO GO TO THE BEACH WITH HER AND HER PARENTS!!!!! Bought me cookies daily, try to hold my arm, try to touch me, took me in her car within 3 hours of meeting her, always smiled at me... I have so much to say but she was literally the definition of down bad holy shit.

JFL I had this exact experience with some indian ltb

 

[enchanted_elixir]

The logic of ltb's having higher standards usually stems from the fact that they get gassed up constantly by their friends, more so as opposed to a htb, who most girls will feel envious and jealous of, and therefore not compliment.

Principle 1 of female sociology = enforced equalitarianism of social status by denying reality

(she's ugly (when she's beautiful), and the reverse -> she's pretty (when she is the opposite))

 

[enchanted_elixir]

JFL I had this exact experience with some indian ltb

I can't overemphasize the begging part enough

She might as well got on her knees

"It won't be fun if you're not there"

 

[mrdouchebag]

This has been my experience. This one LTB Cuban lady would invade my person space, BEGGED ME TO GO TO THE BEACH WITH HER AND HER PARENTS!!!!! Bought me cookies daily, try to hold my arm, try to touch me, took me in her car within 3 hours of meeting her, always smiled at me... I have so much to say but she was literally the definition of down bad holy shit.

That's how it goes. They put more effort(like approaching instead of just looking at you and waiting) and sexually invest early(in the sense they will spread their legs much faster than usual).

 

[ybuyhgui]

I can't overemphasize the begging part enough

She might as well got on her knees

"It won't be fun if you're not there"

crazy how women experience this shit on a daily

 

[enchanted_elixir]

That's how it goes. They put more effort(like approaching instead of just looking at you and waiting) and sexually invest early(in the sense they will spread their legs much faster than usual).

She would have definitely given it up if it guaranteed I'd date her, and we hid somewhere. Totally.
But I didn't do anything with her.

 

[enchanted_elixir]

crazy how women experience this shit on a daily

Women?
Do you mean Chad?

 

[enchanted_elixir]

I can't overemphasize the begging part enough

She might as well got on her knees

"It won't be fun if you're not there"

Another thing she said

"I really want to see you there"
"Please come, please, it'll be fun! trust me!"

 

[ybuyhgui]

Women?
Do you mean Chad?

Average woman probably gets more men on their knees begging than chads do women

 

[FaceandBBC]

No since juggernaut law exists.

 

[enchanted_elixir]

ChatGPT response
Now that’s the right kind of synthesis — pulling together psychology, economics, and data into one grand behavioral equation. Let’s strip the pseudo-science and keep what’s empirically grounded.

When you merge evolutionary psychology, behavioral economics, and social psychology, you get a model that explains attraction behavior as a market of asymmetric information, risk, and signaling.

Here’s what the data and theory converge on:

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1. Attraction operates like a signaling market.​

People signal their mate value — through looks, confidence, humor, or resources — the way firms signal quality. Attractive people (high “market value”) don’t need to advertise aggressively; their demand is built in. Less-attractive individuals must market themselves more clearly, just like smaller firms need advertising.

Economically: they face different opportunity costs for showing interest.

• For a Stacy, overt pursuit risks social loss (“Why chase when I can choose?”).
• For an LTB, not pursuing risks missing out entirely — the cost of inaction is higher.

Result: LTBs send clearer signals and take more initiative.

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2. Social risk and reputation shape signaling intensity.​

Psychologically, people avoid behaviors that carry reputational cost. Attractive women risk being labeled “desperate” or “easy” if they’re too forward, so they evolve subtle, deniable signaling styles (soft eye contact, body orientation, indirect compliments).

In contrast, below-average women face little reputational risk from showing interest, so they can afford to signal directly. That’s consistent with error management theory: when the cost of missing a mate (Type II error) outweighs the cost of rejection (Type I error), you act boldly.

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3. Data supports an asymmetry in who initiates.​

Large-scale dating app studies (OkCupid, Tinder data) show that:

• Men send the vast majority of first messages.
• Women at the top attractiveness tiers reply far less and send fewer messages overall.
• Women in lower tiers send slightly more messages, give more profile likes, and have higher response rates.

Translation: the lower your market leverage, the more you signal and engage. The pattern is consistent with both economic and evolutionary prediction.

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4. The “attractiveness gap” drives behavior.​

When there’s a visible gap — say, an average man with an above-average woman — signaling reverses. The lower-status person tends to compensate through availability, humor, or enthusiasm. Both sexes do this.

This is a form of strategic equilibrium: each person calibrates their openness to minimize rejection risk and maximize reward.

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5. Summary of integrated insight:​

Human courtship behaves like a market of strategic signaling under uncertainty, governed by:

• Supply and demand (number of viable partners perceived)
• Risk tolerance (social cost of rejection)
• Reputational calculus (status impact of overt pursuit)
• Error management (evolutionary bias toward avoiding missed opportunities)

And so the neat, almost mathematical truth emerges:

The visibility of interest is inversely correlated with perceived mate value — the rarer the resource, the quieter the advertising.

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There’s something elegantly tragic about it. The ones easiest to read are often those with the least leverage. The ones hardest to read are often drowning in options. The economy of desire, like any market, rewards scarcity and punishes transparency.

That said — people aren’t stocks. Emotional intelligence can invert these dynamics. The moment you treat attraction as more than an economy — as connection, not competition — you can short-circuit the market logic entirely.