Are modern women worth looksmaxxing for?

[ltnsincebirth]

The modern dating pool of women. hypergamy ( both for looks , status, money etc) and promiscuity makes almost none of them eligible candidates for marriage in my eyes.


~8–9 million white women ages 18–25 total
~60–70% have had fewer than 5 sexual partners
~30% identify as Christian

• Start with ~2.5 million white Christian women (18–25)
• Apply the same <5 partners rate (≈60–70%)

2.5M × 0.6–0.7 ≈ 1.5–1.75 million
This is just on Moral / Ethnic and religious values. When we account for attractiveness too, the number lowers

• Base group: ~1.6 million
• Estimated attractiveness (6/10+): 40% (MTB) ~ 960,000
• Estimated attractiveness (8/10+) ~ ~10% (HTB) ~ 160,000.

Assuming you live in the United States and you follow the same guidelines in dating / marriage as me your odds of finding a lover that fits these requisites is between 0.2815% - 0.0469% depending if you will settle for a mtb or htb.

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Too long didn't read? Awesome. This was purely my frustration and curiosity delved into chatgpt

 

[Deleted member 318048]

doing all these calculations instead of just talking to a girl

 

[ltnsincebirth]

doing all these calculations instead of just talking to a girl

idk if u know what site you're on

 

[FrancoAgain]

doing all these calculations instead of just talking to a girl

This was purely my frustration and curiosity delved into chatgpt

you really are the dude in your avi

 

[ltnsincebirth]

you really are the dude in your avi

The day I get in a ltr with a mtb can be the day I die

 

[ltnsincebirth]

you really are the dude in your avi

Lmfao honestly though he probably has a better chance than me from status pill

 

[Mavueis]

The modern dating pool of women. hypergamy ( both for looks , status, money etc) and promiscuity makes almost none of them eligible candidates for marriage in my eyes.


~8–9 million white women ages 18–25 total
~60–70% have had fewer than 5 sexual partners
~30% identify as Christian

• Start with ~2.5 million white Christian women (18–25)
• Apply the same <5 partners rate (≈60–70%)

2.5M × 0.6–0.7 ≈ 1.5–1.75 million
This is just on Moral / Ethnic and religious values. When we account for attractiveness too, the number lowers

• Base group: ~1.6 million
• Estimated attractiveness (6/10+): 40% (MTB) ~ 960,000
• Estimated attractiveness (8/10+) ~ ~10% (HTB) ~ 160,000.

Assuming you live in the United States and you follow the same guidelines in dating / marriage as me your odds of finding a lover that fits these requisites is between 0.2815% - 0.0469% depending if you will settle for a mtb or htb.

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Too long didn't read? Awesome. This was purely my frustration and curiosity delved into chatgpt

no jbg

 

[brotato78]

no jbg

Jbg pill is law

 

[ltnsincebirth]

no jbg

what does jbg mean

 

[SomaliSub5]

The modern dating pool of women. hypergamy ( both for looks , status, money etc) and promiscuity makes almost none of them eligible candidates for marriage in my eyes.


~8–9 million white women ages 18–25 total
~60–70% have had fewer than 5 sexual partners
~30% identify as Christian

• Start with ~2.5 million white Christian women (18–25)
• Apply the same <5 partners rate (≈60–70%)

2.5M × 0.6–0.7 ≈ 1.5–1.75 million
This is just on Moral / Ethnic and religious values. When we account for attractiveness too, the number lowers

• Base group: ~1.6 million
• Estimated attractiveness (6/10+): 40% (MTB) ~ 960,000
• Estimated attractiveness (8/10+) ~ ~10% (HTB) ~ 160,000.

Assuming you live in the United States and you follow the same guidelines in dating / marriage as me your odds of finding a lover that fits these requisites is between 0.2815% - 0.0469% depending if you will settle for a mtb or htb.

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Too long didn't read? Awesome. This was purely my frustration and curiosity delved into chatgpt

MTB is five out of 10 HTB is six out of 10 those ratings are inaccurate. Why are you doing this gray?

 

[ltnsincebirth]

oh bro im not being a fag fuck that

 

[ltnsincebirth]

MTB is five out of 10 HTB is six out of 10 those ratings are inaccurate. Why are you doing this gray?

5/10 = ltb no?

6-7 = mtb, 8-9 = htb?

 

[onic]

And those MTN or htn probably lesbian or settle with BBC, it's over for whitecel

 

[ltnsincebirth]

And those MTN or htn probably lesbian or settle with BBC, it's over for whitecel

White race will be extinct in 100 years

 

[SomaliSub5]

5/10 = ltn no?

6-7 = mtb, 8-9 = htn?

LTN is in the four range
MTN is in the five range hence the name midtier Normie
HTN is six out of 10 range

 

[Mavueis]

Jbg pill is law

ah yes let me entertain hypergamy and female worship by subjecting myself to the humiliation ritual which is modern dating
females arent self aware and most of them are retarded or desperate for male validation/attention, whenever anything is ruined; little kids and females are to blame
jbg is law

 

[Mavueis]

what does jbg mean

just be gay lil homie

 

[ltnsincebirth]

LTN is in the four range
MTN is in the five range hence the name midtier Normie
HTN is six out of 10 range

You think a 6/10 is considered a "high tier normie" if that was the case 40% of the population would be htb / htn no?

 

[ltnsincebirth]

just be gay lil homie

Ngl ill just go to a poor asian country and use money and whitepill before being gay.

 

[Mavueis]

5/10 = ltb no?

6-7 = mtb, 8-9 = htb?

what do u think sub5 means, retard
if ur sub5; ure an ltn
it’s not its own separate tier

 

[SomaliSub5]

You think a 6/10 is considered a "high tier normie" if that was the case 40% of the population would be htb / htn no?

no retard that's not how attractiveness works. Do you think 10% of the population is genuinely 10 out of 10? No, and neither is 10% of the population one out of 10 either who told you that bullshit

 

[ltnsincebirth]

what do u think sub5 means, retard
if ur sub5; ure an ltn
it’s not its own separate tier

there's no way 40% of the population is considered to be a htb/htn

if mtn is 5/10 , being slightly above that at 6 would be htn. When you think of a 6/10 you definitely don't think of an attractive person, maybe the argument LHTN or LLHTN is true but idk bro

 

[pfl]

U can increase chances of finding this girl depending on location

 

[miketheman]

You think a 6/10 is considered a "high tier normie" if that was the case 40% of the population would be htb / htn no?

Dnr retard

 

[ltnsincebirth]

no retard that's not how attractiveness works. Do you think 10% of the population is genuinely 10 out of 10? No, and neither is 10% of the population one out of 10 either who told you that bullshit

I believe 10% of the population of the youth are htb/htn and less than that (<2%) would be stacy/chad level

 

[SomaliSub5]

there's no way 40% of the population is considered to be a htb/htn

if mtn is 5/10 , being slightly above that at 6 would be htn. When you think of a 6/10 you definitely don't think of an attractive person, maybe the argument LHTN or LLHTN is true but idk bro

you're the only one that is saying 40% of the population is HTB htn go back to math class. You clearly have failed.

 

[Mavueis]

no retard that's not how attractiveness works. Do you think 10% of the population is genuinely 10 out of 10? No, and neither is 10% of the population one out of 10 either who told you that bullshit

this guy lacks common sense
if 5/10 was ltn
what would be bellow it????!???
whats lower than an ltn????

also 5/10 is literally the halfway mark
meaning medium-level attractiveness
and the populations bulk is not even at that
which would set the median at 3-4/10 (ltn-hltn) and the lowest of society between 1 & 2 (lltn to ltn) (5/10 means lmtn in this context which isnt extravagant but its just about above-average)

 

[SomaliSub5]

I believe 10% of the population of the youth are htb/htn and less than that (<2%) would be stacy/chad level

LTN = 4-4.9/10
MTN = 5-5.9/10
HTN = 6-6.9/10

get it right

 

[ltnsincebirth]

you're the only one that is saying 40% of the population is HTB htn go back to math class. You clearly have failed.

The reason I said that is because if a 6/10 is considered to be a HTN/ HTB this means that someone who is SLIGHTLY better looking than average would be considered a HTN/ HTB , which would put it in the 40th percentile of looks according to that logic.

 

[ltnsincebirth]

LTN = 4-4.9/10
MTN = 5-5.9/10
HTN = 6-6.9/10

get it right

Dude this has gotta be ragebait. there's no way we're considering a 7/10 woman to be a stacylite

 

[SomaliSub5]

The reason I said that is because if a 6/10 is considered to be a HTN/ HTB this means that someone who is SLIGHTLY better looking than average would be considered a HTN/ HTB , which would put it in the 40th percentile of looks according to that logic.

 

[SomaliSub5]

Dude this has gotta be ragebait. there's no way we're considering a 7/10 woman to be a stacylite

7/10 objectively is stacylite/chadlite what lmao

7/10 is very good looking

 

[ltnsincebirth]

7/10 objectively is stacylite/chadlite what lmao

7/10 is very good looking

The difference between MTN / MTB and Stacy/Chadlite is so much more of a gap than 2 points, unless we possibly mean PSL? But even then PSL only goes to like 7.5

 

[Mavueis]

The difference between MTN / MTB and Stacy/Chadlite is so much more of a gap than 2 points, unless we possibly mean PSL? But even then PSL only goes to like 7.5

there is no gap, are u retarded? rating someones looks is an objective process that doesnt fluctuate or decline based on their gender or how horny you are. “girl = 2 points more because my dick gets a little stiffy when is see her buiuuhhh”

 

[ltnsincebirth]

there is no gap, are u retarded? rating someones looks is an objective process that doesnt fluctuate or decline based on their gender or how horny you are. “girl = 2 points more because my dick gets a little stiffy when is see her buiuuhhh”

@SomaliSub5

If we're going off of a more concise guide with PSL ratings and beauty characteristics below is an attachment from a sub that did extensive research on those and more thorough ratings. I did not initially go off of this for the math, but 1/92 women being HTB actually makes sense.

 

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[ltnsincebirth]

U can increase chances of finding this girl depending on location

lol may be time to swallow europe-pill

 

[ltnsincebirth]

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I would choose to be chico lachowski over elias de poot in any lifetime. if u showed 100 women the 3 photos beneath and ask who is better looking 9/10 will choose chico

 

[Deleted member 332656]

If you understand that the real game is STR, then I think so.

 

[Mavueis]

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brootal psl appeal ayo chico

 

[SomaliSub5]

The difference between MTN / MTB and Stacy/Chadlite is so much more of a gap than 2 points, unless we possibly mean PSL? But even then PSL only goes to like 7.5

PSL scale is retarded

 

[SomaliSub5]

.

 

[ltnsincebirth]

PSL scale is retarded

10/10 looks doesn't objectively exist tbf

 

[SomaliSub5]

10/10 looks doesn't objectively exist tbf

yeah because 10/10 is perfection

there are some ppl that are 9/10 tho

thats why 1-10 scale is better its easier for comparison

 

[ltnsincebirth]

yeah because 10/10 is perfection

there are some ppl that are 9/10 tho

thats why 1-10 scale is better its easier for comparison

I think 1-10 scale is lowkey hard to maintain because normies have the idea that a 7 is the average so if you called someone a 5/10
90% of the population would assume you're insulting them

I'd say 9/10 women are stacylite and stacy and what differentiates the two between being 10/10 is different preferences in women, ex. some men like goth women, some men like latinas, asian etc. I saw that idea on a looks scale somewhere a few years back and it makes sense tbh

 

[pfl]

I would choose to be chico lachowski over elias de poot in any lifetime. if u showed 100 women the 3 photos beneath and ask who is better looking 9/10 will choose chico

Chico is literally higher psl anyway

 

[PharmaPhaggot]

Unless you have time machine yes

 

[ltnsincebirth]

Chico is literally higher psl anyway

Elias de poot is kinda uncanny bro. Half the time modeling agencies go for people with interesting bone structure because it's marketable, he mogs the shit out of me but he looks like a twink