are sarms less likely to cause perma suppression than test?

[bddcoper]

i wanna run something but i dont have the money/ability to stay on forever if i get perma suppression. are sarms like anavar and lgd 4033 less likely to cause long term suppression compared to test? if not, what is the max test dose if i wanna go back to living without roids

 

[rotation]

it depends, the degree of suppression depends on the compound and dose

like ostarine is much less suppressive than rad140, obviously

and quite a lot of sarms don't cause full supression, but testosterone does

SARMs are less likely to cause permanent suppression, but depends on how you use them

either way, a lot of the time it seems you can prevent perma suppression on testosterone if you control it well enough

 

[vision_n]

No, lgd or anavar can still cause suppression, sometimes long term if abused


If you want to recover naturally later, low dose testosterone (around 100 -150 mg/week) is generally safer for recovery than sarms or stronger cycles Anything higher increases the risk of shutdown.

 

[rotation]

i wanna run something but i dont have the money/ability to stay on forever if i get perma suppression. are sarms like anavar and lgd 4033 less likely to cause long term suppression compared to test? if not, what is the max test dose if i wanna go back to living without roids

I did not even read this part, but you cannot run either without a testosterone base.

for SARMS like this, you need a test base to not fuck your hormones

even if that base is low trt, you still need it

 

[bddcoper]

I did not even read this part, but you cannot run either without a testosterone base.

for SARMS like this, you need a test base to not fuck your hormones

even if that base is low trt, you still need it

i was thinking enclo as my test base for a sarm, but what first cycle would guys you recommend in my case

note: it's not really my first cycle as i have done cjc/ipa (even if it doesnt do much) at 200-300 mcg daily for the past 2 months

 

[rotation]

i was thinking enclo as my test base for a sarm, but what first cycle would guys you recommend in my case

honestly, I know people don't like it, but trt for life is optimal in my opinion

but I get that you wouldn't want perma suppression

either way, I wouldn't use enclomiphene it is pretty awful and causes problems

look at pneumos thread about rad140, he used enclo as a base at first and removed it because it fucked his hormones up

if you are set on using sarms, you could just use a trt base

however the best 'first stack' honestly will always be 300-500mg testosterone propionate, split into ED dosing

 

[bddcoper]

honestly, I know people don't like it, but trt for life is optimal in my opinion

but I get that you wouldn't want perma suppression

either way, I wouldn't use enclomiphene it is pretty awful and causes problems

look at pneumos thread about rad140, he used enclo as a base at first and removed it because it fucked his hormones up

if you are set on using sarms, you could just use a trt base

however the best 'first stack' honestly will always be 300-500mg testosterone propionate, split into ED dosing

wont i experience suppression at 300-500 mg? i care about youthfulness as well esp bc i look a bit older than my age. what about 200 mg test with some PCT will that suppress me long term

also i can't do trt for life even if i wanted to (or if i did want to it can't be withiin these next few years, as i have no way to do the roids when i go home for the holidays from uni or anywhere to hide them without my nosy parents uncovering them somehow.

 

[rotation]

wont i experience suppression at 300-500 mg? i care about youthfulness as well esp bc i look a bit older than my age. what about 200 mg test with some PCT will that suppress me long term

also i can't do trt for life even if i wanted to (or if i did want to it can't be withiin these next few years, as i have no way to do the roids when i go home for the holidays from uni or anywhere to hide them without my nosey parents uncovering them somehow.

nobody can tell you if something will supress you long term, it varies from person to person

any amount of testosterone shuts you down whilst you are on it

and as for the 200mg with pct, you will get very little gains from this

its only just above trt

roiding is not for everyone, if you are worried about supression, or can't do trt, maybe it is best you do nothing at all