Are women attracted to average men?

[Looks234]

I once had this belief too. Then the hit hard.

They’re projecting because they can’t get laid. NT Normies have sex all the time.

 

[lutte]

A simpler world
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@sytyl don't angry react you can go back to afghanistan and get the virgin gf you've been dreaming of

 

[Deleted member 275]

Not the norm. The average women don't encourage their bf to cheat jfl.

Well if that's not average just shows how little chance men even get to experience what is 'normal'.

I recently had a conversation with a female dominatrix I found on fetlife (jfl at me I know). I told her I am into femdom, we talked a bit. And, her words, she said that I wasn't into femdom. But into a relationship where a woman actively shows affection and sexual interest in me. And that this was supposed to be 'normal' in a 'normal' relationship.

I told her that it's my femdom kink that women initiate sex with me, instead of me having to always initiate sex with her and she said this wasn't femdom but how a normal relationship is supposed to be like.

fucking brutal. In both my fwb and LTR, I have NEVER had the girl initiate sex with me. Never had a women undress me, never had a woman throw herself at me, never had a woman grab my dick, nothing. I always feel like a little bit of a rapist when I have sex with women because I see/feel little active sexual interest from her. Other than that she is 'letting me take her'.

I hate women. My kink is women showing physical affection and I thought this was femdom fuck this gay world.

 

[lutte]

@Syobevoli was a chad at one point in time

He's like HTN (which is really good) but with mental problems

 

[Mongrelcel]

They’re projecting because they can’t get laid. NT Normies have sex all the time.

I feel like you're using "NT" as a catch-all here. Especially since it's something you can't define so easily.
Same as "game". Like some magic attribute (that no-one can define or measure) that just so happens to explain your argument

 

[Looks234]

I feel like you're using "NT" as a catch-all here. Especially since it's something you can't define so easily.
Same as "game". Like some magic attribute (that no-one can define or measure) that just so happens to explain your argument

Social circle, fashion and social skills

 

[AlexAP]

I feel like you're using "NT" as a catch-all here. Especially since it's something you can't define so easily.
Same as "game". Like some magic attribute (that no-one can define or measure) that just so happens to explain your argument

NT in romance = Having a social circle, being easily able to get new friends, being able to to hold conversations, flirt and escalate sexually without being (too) nervous.

 

[Mongrelcel]

Well if that's not average just shows how little chance men even get to experience what is 'normal'.

I recently had a conversation with a female dominatrix I found on fetlife (jfl at me I know). I told her I am into femdom, we talked a bit. And, her words, she said that I wasn't into femdom. But into a relationship where a woman actively shows affection and sexual interest in me. And that this was supposed to be 'normal' in a 'normal' relationship.

I told her that it's my femdom kink that women initiate sex with me, instead of me having to always initiate sex with her and she said this wasn't femdom but how a normal relationship is supposed to be like.

fucking brutal. In both my fwb and LTR, I have NEVER had the girl initiate sex with me. Never had a women undress me, never had a woman throw herself at me, never had a woman grab my dick, nothing. I always feel like a little bit of a rapist when I have sex with women because I see/feel little active sexual interest from her. Other than that she is 'letting me take her'.

I hate women. My kink is women showing physical affection and I thought this was femdom fuck this gay world.

fucking brutal if even a chad cant get desire from women

 

[Deleted member 8853]

I don’t think hypergamy is that bad personally. It’s real but not to the lengths autists here say.

Hypergamy it's pretty bad if you're sub 5/10
I've said this and will say it again.

 

[Edgar]

it's not really a mentality, it's reality
I try to delude myself that my situation is not so bad, but it is giga bad. Only the biggest losers don't have social life, not having social life = you're absolute trash
that's just a fact

reading through this thread RN

Experiences At College, Post-Ascension

I wouldn't say I'm inherently good-looking, but I think I managed to make a crucial difference this year: I finally have passed the looks threshold in the minds of most women. I'd probably rate myself a 6.5/10 (strongly above average, but not a chad) compared to the guys I see at my college, I...

looksmax.org

this is what it actually looks like when you're attractive - so obviously I'm not. I've never gotten an IOI even 1/10 of what actually attractive men get

Socializing is giga hard for me too, imagine my disappointment when I went to medschool and everybody already knew each other because a lot of just went to the same school ( there is a highschool that most graduates end up in medschool/bio or chemistry/engineering) not only that, but I've nothing in common with these flags they all want to play PES on PS3 and I just suck at it, or they talk about soccer or play dominoes and I just stand there like . Who the fuck are these people

 

[Deleted member 275]

NT in romance = Having a social circle, being easily able to get new friends, being able to to hold conversations, flirt and escalate sexually without being (too) nervous.

Makes me quite interested in our meet-up tbh, if that ever goes through.

I am reasonably sure that you would consider me 'NT' IRL. I behave normally honestly, nobody has ever called me an autist, incel, weirdo, etc. and I am lower inhib than the avg male. And usually I am among the guys that are making fun of other guys that act 'autistic/weird'

We have some rly weird ppl at my STEMcel uni and I laugh about them with my housemates. But perhaps real normies from non-autistic universities equally think we are autistic too while we consider ourselves normies.

My idea of average might be a bit warped due to being exposed to STEMcel autists non-stop.

 

[Deleted member 5786]

Hypergamy it's pretty bad if you're sub 5/10
I've said this and will say it again.

@subhuman incel is sub 3/10 and its over for him. Same goes for me

 

[Edgar]

i mean
@Syobevoli is an actual normie who has experience, he has experienced the exact same shit jfl.
Blackpill is universal, bluepill are exceptions, there's always exceptions to the rule
but stacies want chads, chads want to fuck as many women as they can, white subhumans realize how easy it is to jbw ethnic chicks, and ethnic normies die alone.

It says med mogger on your signature bro, am I to believe that is a lie?

 

[sytyl]

@sytyl don't angry react you can go back to afghanistan and get the virgin gf you've been dreaming of

already got it here which has contributed a lot to my bluepilling

 

[lutte]

already got it here which has contributed a lot to my bluepilling

attractive man has a gf
damn bluepilled again

 

[AlexAP]

Makes me quite interested in our meet-up tbh, if that ever goes through.

Of course it will go through.

I am reasonably sure that you would consider me 'NT' IRL. I behave normally honestly, nobody has ever called me an autist, incel, weirdo, etc. and I am lower inhib than the avg male. And usually I am among the guys that are making fun of other guys that act 'autistic/weird'

We have some rly weird ppl at my STEMcel uni and I laugh about them with my housemates. But perhaps real normies from non-autistic universities equally think we are autistic too while we consider ourselves normies.

My idea of average might be a bit warped due to being exposed to STEMcel autists non-stop.

Yeah, I was called NT too by Enfant terrible when I met him jfl, lifefuel tbh. Maybe there's hope.

 

[sytyl]

attractive man has a gf
damn bluepilled again

guys that look much worse than me have gfs
I used to cope with betabux etc. but it's just be nt

 

[Mongrelcel]

everybody already knew each other because a lot of just went to the same school

this is the part people always fucking miss when talking about socializing

that normies know a lot of other normies, they all know each other
this makes socializing giga difficult when youre a rotting social outcast, and super easy if you're in that game

 

[oatmeal]

i look okay, i do okay. but tbh it is pretty brutal if i compare myself to someone who is better than me ngl. is what it is.

 

[subhuman incel]

@subhuman incel is sub 3/10 and its over for him. Same goes for me

im sub 1/10

 

[sytyl]

this is the part people always fucking miss when talking about socializing

that normies know a lot of other normies, they all know each other
this makes socializing giga difficult when youre a rotting social outcast, and super easy if you're in that game

it's all about social circle/opportunities
if you're a normie you have two paths, rot in basement and complain, or join a frat and go along with others

 

[Edgar]

this is the part people always fucking miss when talking about socializing

that normies know a lot of other normies, they all know each other
this makes socializing giga difficult when youre a rotting social outcast, and super easy if you're in that game

Yes bro the odds are stacked against us. Like what do these retard gather around and talk about anyways jfll it is quantity over quality with normies I swear. I just lucked (?) that I have two close friends but they study abroad so get to see them like a twice a year at most

 

[Mongrelcel]

it's all about social circle/opportunities
if you're a normie you have two paths, rot in basement and complain, or join a frat and go along with others

>implying I can just join a frat
>implying that "frats" even exist in my country
>implying I go to a uni

 

[AlexAP]

I recently had a conversation with a female dominatrix I found on fetlife (jfl at me I know). I told her I am into femdom, we talked a bit. And, her words, she said that I wasn't into femdom. But into a relationship where a woman actively shows affection and sexual interest in me. And that this was supposed to be 'normal' in a 'normal' relationship.

I told her that it's my femdom kink that women initiate sex with me, instead of me having to always initiate sex with her and she said this wasn't femdom but how a normal relationship is supposed to be like.

fucking brutal. In both my fwb and LTR, I have NEVER had the girl initiate sex with me. Never had a women undress me, never had a woman throw herself at me, never had a woman grab my dick, nothing. I always feel like a little bit of a rapist when I have sex with women because I see/feel little active sexual interest from her. Other than that she is 'letting me take her'.

I hate women. My kink is women showing physical affection and I thought this was femdom fuck this gay world.

Sexworkerpilled again. They're the best therapists for men.

 

[Edgar]

>implying I can just join a frat
>implying that "frats" even exist in my country
>implying I go to a uni

I was thinking about joining a political party the other day like doesn't even matter what it is just a random shit Party to meet people

 

[Deleted member 275]

Chad and his Becky girlfriend
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Normie with Stacy that can easily get a muhh psl 6.772886 with hunter eyes chad
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These cherry-picked examples don't mean anything to me. Madison and the boyfriend she mogs get posted here constantly, precisely because it's such a rare occurance and therefore something interesting to post.

It's no different than people showing Jason Statham while saying that 'bald men are attractive'.

Honestly it makes me feel good though, that examples like this exist, because it means that is NEVER truly, completely over. There is always an element of randomness to life, luck, that allows people that have seemingly little hope, still get far in life. A subhuman might still get an attractive girlfriend through sheer luck.

That doesn't mean 'just be ugly because this ugly guy has stacy gf' is usefull advice. Because you are far more likely to get stacy gf when you are chad.

Neither does 'just be NT' mean anything when we have no clue whether these guys even are NT.

Perhaps the whole appeal of this ugly guy was that he wasn't NT, but had some weird, unique hobby/personality/life situation that caused him to get a girl above his looksmatch?

 

[Edgar]

Sexworkerpilled again. They're the best therapists for men.
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Hole thinks she is a human being

 

[Edgar]

Perhaps the whole appeal of this ugly guy was that he wasn't NT, but had some weird, unique hobby/personality/life situation that caused him to get a girl above his looksmatch?

Yess this is what I was looking for. But I think you are misunderstanding NT here, it just means you know how to behave yourself among normies, you can still have your weird tastes and hobbies in private, basically playing a character while revealing your true self to people you trust

 

[Deleted member 275]

Sexworkerpilled again. They're the best therapists for men.
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I agree though. I have had little to no success with actual therapists.

I had a really cool guy as a barber and when he would cut my hair for ~half an hour every 2 months, it would basically be like a therapy session for me.

If sex workers would be paid for as therapy by the state, I think it would help most guys more than actual therapists would. Just feeling accepted and being able to talk freely while feeling physically appreciated must be great.

 

[Deleted member 275]

""""far more""""
it's only 1% more
i.e. irrelevant

What happens when you remove the top20% of men in looks from those stats?


You are deluding yourself. Normie men at that age have no capacity to cheat, whilst chad(lites) are having soft harems.

 

[Looks234]

These cherry-picked examples don't mean anything to me. Madison and the boyfriend she mogs get posted here constantly, precisely because it's such a rare occurance and therefore something interesting to post.

It's no different than people showing Jason Statham while saying that 'bald men are attractive'.

Honestly it makes me feel good though, that examples like this exist, because it means that is NEVER truly, completely over. There is always an element of randomness to life, luck, that allows people that have seemingly little hope, still get far in life. A subhuman might still get an attractive girlfriend through sheer luck.

That doesn't mean 'just be ugly because this ugly guy has stacy gf' is usefull advice. Because you are far more likely to get stacy gf when you are chad.

Neither does 'just be NT' mean anything when we have no clue whether these guys even are NT.

Perhaps the whole appeal of this ugly guy was that he wasn't NT, but had some weird, unique hobby/personality/life situation that caused him to get a girl above his looksmatch?

He’s nt. I saw a interview with him.

 

[Deleted member 275]

>implying I can just join a frat
>implying that "frats" even exist in my country
>implying I go to a uni

>implying that joining a frat even makes the difference

I was in a frat for 2 years when I was 'socialmaxxing' (I was also part of the local salsa-dance school and their events during this time jfl). I did have a gf for ~6 months during that time and she told me that she found it attractive that I was a 'frat guy'. But beyond that I didn't get any success from there and I met this gf from tinder, not through my frat.

 

[Deleted member 13137]

Just be first theory is a fucking meme. I approached like 10 girls on my first day of college and they all rejected me, most of which were average or below and/or ethnic. A few days later I saw some of them walking around with Chadlites. Just be Chad(lite) is the only legit theory.

you have to sleep with them to be first

 

[Gad]

Women will only be attracted to a normie if they have money or status, or if the girl is bluepilled about her smv, or if the guy was first, they were together from their teens or something.