Aristotle on the active intellect which is immortal & indestructible. Without which no one would be able to think. From De Anima, Book 3 part 5

[Aristotélēs]

Since in every class of things, as in nature as a whole, we find two factors involved, (1) a matter which is potentially all the particulars included in the class, (2) a cause which is productive in the sense that it makes them all (the latter standing to the former, as e.g. an art to its material), these distinct elements must likewise be found within the soul.

And in fact mind as we have described it is what it is what it is by virtue of becoming all things, while there is another which is what it is by virtue of making all things: this is a sort of positive state like light; for in a sense light makes potential colours into actual colours. Mind in this sense of it is separable, impassible, unmixed, since it is in its essential nature activity (for always the active is superior to the passive factor, the originating force to the matter which it forms).

Actual knowledge is identical with its object: in the individual, potential knowledge is in time prior to actual knowledge, but in the universe as a whole it is not prior even in time. Mind is not at one time knowing and at another not. When mind is set free from its present conditions it appears as just what it is and nothing more: this alone is immortal and eternal (we do not, however, remember its former activity because, while mind in this sense is impassible, mind as passive is destructible), and without it nothing
thinks.

@theRetard

 

[Edelweiss]

this means fuck all and wont improve my life

 

[Aristotélēs]

this means fuck all and wont improve my life

Wrrong. The life of contemplation is the most superior & Godlike

Sense pleasure is ultimately only valuable as a means to further this Godlike pursuit

I live for philosophy & would kill myself without it

 

[Edelweiss]

Wrrong. The life of contemplation is the most superior & Godlike

Sense pleasure is ultimately only valuable as a means to further this Godlike pursuit

I live for philosophy & would kill myself without it

you didnt contemplate anything u just copied ideas from another man who u dickride

 

[Aristotélēs]

you didnt contemplate anything u just copied ideas from another man who u dickride

There's no need to contradict a man who is right. I'm an Aristotlean. Why are surprised I agree with him ?

 

[Edelweiss]

There's no need to contradict a man who is right. I'm an Aristotlean. Why are surprised I agree with him ?

u were talking about contemplation but u didnt contemplate anything, and im not saying philosophy is useless but what u posted is

 

[Glorious King]

now u just need plato and socrates to shit post all day

 

[Aristotélēs]

u were talking about contemplation but u didnt contemplate anything, and im not saying philosophy is useless but what u posted is

I could not understand what Aristotle wrote without having contemplated it. I did contemplate it.

Are you accusing me of not understanding what I have copy pasted ? If so, what's your evidence for that ? Or are you saying all of this out of spite & jealousy ?

 

[theRetard]

Mind in this sense of it is separable, impassible, unmixed, since it is in its essential nature activity (for always the active is superior to the passive factor, the originating force to the matter which it forms).

abstractions/forms are inherently superior to matter

 

[Edelweiss]

I could not understand what Aristotle wrote without having contemplated it. I did contemplate it.

Are you accusing me of not understanding what I have copy pasted ? If so, what's your evidence for that ? Or are you saying all of this out of spite & jealousy ?

i am accusing u of copy and pasting useless shit and acting deep when it literally means nothing

 

[Edelweiss]

abstractions/forms are inherently superior to matter

why

 

[The Fool]

Does carl jung speak of this?

 

[Aristotélēs]

i am accusing u of copy and pasting useless shit and acting deep when it literally means nothing

It means a lot & it isn't useless. You are just too stupid

One more idiotic comment from you & I will put you on ignore.

 

[theRetard]

why

basically matter is the substrate of substance.
forms or abstraction makes thing what it is, while matter is simply what it's made of

 

[theRetard]

kant also said something like this, he distinguished intelligence from reason

 

[theRetard]

you didnt contemplate anything u just copied ideas from another man who u dickride

seeking for pleasure is a kind of cattle/slave way of life

 

[Edelweiss]

It means a lot & it isn't useless. You are just too stupid

One more idiotic comment from you & I will put you on ignore.

how do u use this to improve ur life

basically matter is the substrate of substance.
forms or abstraction makes thing what it is, while matter is simply what it's made of

so why does that make it superior

seeking for pleasure is a kind of cattle/slave way of life

what r u talking about?

 

[theRetard]

so why does that make it superior

because form turns chaos of matter into order

what r u talking about?

you know

 

[Edelweiss]

because form turns chaos of matter into order

whats superior about that?

you know

did u mean to reply to my other post? i said improve life, nothing about pleasure

 

[theRetard]

whats superior about that?

do you know what superior means?

did u mean to reply to my other post? i said improve life, nothing about pleasure

i assume that it wouldn't improve your life because life improving is probably about pleasure, if it is not like this then what's your life about?

 

[Edelweiss]

do you know what superior means?

yes

i assume that it wouldn't improve your life because life improving is probably about pleasure, if it is not like this then what's your life about?

a bad unpleasurable thing can improve ur life and make it more pleasurable in the future

 

[theRetard]

yes

a bad unpleasurable thing can improve ur life and make it more pleasurable in the future

then get out, this thread isn't made for you. seeking for pleasure is a slave form of life, even epicurus would criticize it

 

[Edelweiss]

then get out, this thread isn't made for you. seeking for pleasure is a slave form of life, even epicurus would criticize it

what do u seek if not for pleasure?

 

[theRetard]

what do u seek if not for pleasure?

knowledge and overall well-being

 

[Edelweiss]

knowledge

knowledge makes ur life more pleasurable if used correctly, and learning new knowledge is pleasurable

and overall well-being

literally pleasure

 

[Edelweiss]

@theRetard seeking short term pleasure is a slave form of life, not pleasure overall

 

[theRetard]

knowledge makes ur life more pleasurable if used correctly, and learning new knowledge is pleasurable

literally pleasure

again, it's a slave thing if you are seeking for knowledge to achieve other good rather than knowledge as a value in it self. A free man always values knowledge just because it's knowledge, no need something "more" than that

@theRetard seeking short term pleasure is a slave form of life, not pleasure overall

pleasure is always short term

 

[Edelweiss]

again, it's a slave thing if you are seeking for knowledge to achieve other good rather than knowledge as a value in it self. A free man always values knowledge just because it's knowledge, no need something "more" than that

how is it slave? and u do the same thing u just dont realize it, u deem knowledge as important, so when u learn new knowledge it provides u more pleasure

pleasure is always short term

well being is just more pleasure and less pain over a given time

 

[theRetard]

how is it slave? and u do the same thing u just dont realize it, u deem knowledge as important, so when u learn new knowledge it provides u more pleasure

how do you know? do you have access to my consciousness?

well being is just more pleasure and less pain over a given time

no it's low iq reductionism. Well being/perfectness is valuable because it's value in it self. Pleasure is also a value in it self but it's inferior to well being because well being is more independent from external things

 

[Edelweiss]

how do you know? do you have access to my consciousness?

thats how brains work

no it's low iq reductionism. Well being/perfectness is valuable because it's value in it self. Pleasure is also a value in it self but it's inferior to well being because well being is more independent from external things

what is well being then?

 

[theRetard]

thats how brains work

how do you know how my brain works?

what is well being then?

eudaimonia for humans and entelechy for other substances.

 

[unstable]

Aristotle was a gay faggot who made shitty philosophy cuz he didn't have access to good one.

eudaimonia, virtue, telos, soul, prime mover are all his retarded creations.

he had good philosophy as well because he disproved idea theory and made political theory.

 

[Edelweiss]

how do you know how my brain works?

because why would ur brain waste time doing something that doesnt provide a positive chemical reaction?

eudaimonia for humans and entelechy for other substances.

thats your opinion, well being is usually defined as being comfortable, healthy and happy, which is just more pleasure and less pain

eudaimonia is just getting pleasure from fulfilling ur potential, and virtues

 

[theRetard]

because why would ur brain waste time doing something that doesnt provide a positive chemical reaction?

because physicalism is retarded, free will does exist so i can choose something that is not inherently leads to plesure

thats your opinion, well being is usually defined as being comfortable, healthy and happy, which is just more pleasure and less pain

pleasure and less pain in well being is an accident thing rather than essential one

eudaimonia is just getting pleasure from fulfilling ur potential, and virtues

it's not about pleasure

 

[Edelweiss]

because physicalism is retarded, free will does exist so i can choose something that is not inherently leads to plesure

but knowledge leads to pleasure and u choose it

pleasure and less pain in well being is an accident thing rather than essential one

how nigga

it's not about pleasure

then why do u want to fulfill your potential and virtues?