As a natty it's very hard not to look skinny or skinny fat or shredded but very wide in body type

[reptiles]

As a natty you can easily put on muscles but the issue is usually you look skinny and after you do get shredded your muscles don't get wider they become more visible and pop out due to fat being lost in that area that's common sense.

But your chest getting laterally wider or your clavicles getting laterally wider that doesn't happen through natty practises usually and when the results are insane the before results are also insane tbqh.

but natty is the safest route and doesn't fuck you up in 4 diffren't factors it doesn't fuck your HPTA axis, nor is it liver toxic, nor will it give you man tits, or balding. But the fact remains most dudes in general look skinny as fuck after going natty the amount of changes on roids is insane

 

[Kama]

In my personal view and experience at seeing other natty lifters, if you consistently workout for years, your frame does get way better, ie wider shoulders, quad bulge, veiny forearms and v taper. It might not be as drastic as non natty, but it’s consistent. And, even if you stop working out for months, the foundation will be there and you can come back to it.
On a side note on longevity, my grandpa had defined delta and chest well into his 60s though he quit working out in his 40s, but he had been a weightlifter when he was young for many years.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

I don’t know y people stay natty tbh you can dose stuff that will make you non natty but will generally make your organism a better specimen. Normies and their muh natty card

 

[SoberAndRetarded]

I don’t know y people stay natty tbh you can dose stuff that will make you non natty but will generally make your organism a better specimen. Normies and their muh natty card

I just do creatine and my protein shake has bcaas. What’s some shit that is easy to get and good?

 

[Kama]

I don’t know y people stay natty tbh you can dose stuff that will make you non natty but will generally make your organism a better specimen. Normies and their muh natty card

Cuz roids fuck with your face after initial cycle, age you both internally and outside, and you become dependent on them at some point and can’t come back.

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Cuz roids fuck with your face after initial cycle, age you both internally and outside, and you become dependent on them at some point and can’t come back.

If you blast like a retard then yes