As an athiest, why do you have morals?

[HtnceI]

Morals come from relegion making them essentially a relegious belief, they were created to limit us in general, and to limit our happiness. No logical sane human who believes in god should have morals.

@Lvminositycc

 

[Sub->CL]

Trve

 

[milkshake_addict]

reasoning

 

[Tenres]

Notice how you are absolutely retard. You don't believe in God, so you believe religious texts were manmade. Hence any morals embedded in religious narratives by necessity precede the texts.

Niggas are ass but hype themselves up

 

[emogymmaxx]

Notice how you are absolutely retard. You don't believe in God, so you believe religious texts were manmade. Hence any morals embedded in religious narratives by necessity precede the texts.

Niggas are ass but hype themselves up

are you seriously claiming a God wrote the bible we have today

 

[Tenres]

are you seriously claiming a God wrote the bible we have today

No, dumbass. Can you read? If you're a naturalist, religious texts were written by men. Hence the ideas of these men preceded their creation of the texts.

 

[got.daim]

Morals come from relegion

Your legitimacy is already in the drain

Read into ethics and morality before speaking on such

 

[them streets b cold]

son thinking too deep

 

[emogymmaxx]

No, dumbass. Can you read? If you're a naturalist, religious texts were written by men. Hence the ideas of these men preceded their creation of the texts.

You don't believe in God, so you believe religious texts were manmade

Yes i can. you just contradicted yourself?

 

[Tenres]

Yes i can. you just contradicted yourself?

You are genuinely a severely confused subhuman.

What I said is that "person x does not believe in God --> person x believes religious texts were made by men," which clearly doesn't imply I believe the opposite. I believe the same, hence why I also believe the commitment of the view that religious texts are manmade, which is that the stories embedded in religious narratives precede the creation of the text.

 

[emogymmaxx]

You are genuinely a severely confused subhuman.

What I said is that "person x does not believe in God --> person x believes religious texts were made by men," which clearly doesn't imply I believe the opposite. I believe the same, hence why I also believe the commitment of the view that religious texts are manmade, which is that the stories embedded in religious narratives precede the creation of the text.

so you came into a thread supporting the same claims with a hostile tone and a argumentative claim without backing it up? yet im the confused subhuman. iqlet with a dictionary

 

[Tenres]

so you came into a thread supporting the same claims with a hostile tone and a argumentative claim without backing it up? yet im the confused subhuman. iqlet with a dictionary

No I disagreed with the claim that morality is made by religion. This is just so bad for you, extremely confused

 

[emogymmaxx]

No I disagreed with the claim that morality is made by religion. This is just so bad for you, extremely confused

Notice how you are absolutely retard. You don't believe in God, so you believe religious texts were manmade. Hence any morals embedded in religious narratives by necessity precede the texts.

Niggas are ass but hype themselves up

Notice how you are absolutely retard.

 

[emogymmaxx]

No I disagreed with the claim that morality is made by religion. This is just so bad for you, extremely confused

back to iqlet with a dictionary
ndpill man

 

[Tenres]

@emogymmaxx Perhaps you're ESL?

"Preceded" means to come before. What I'm saying in that message is that the morals in the text came before the texts creation. Si

 

[emogymmaxx]

What I'm saying in that message is that the morals in the text came before the texts creation. Si

mind sharing where you found this out?

 

[emogymmaxx]

@emogymmaxx Perhaps you're ESL?

iqlet with a dictionary

 

[Tenres]

mind sharing where you found this out?

Yeah so it's an induction from the fact that most of the time when you write something, it comes from thoughts. And you generally have to have a thought before you write that thought down

 

[Tenres]

iqlet with a dictionary

English Second Langauge

 

[emogymmaxx]

Yeah so it's an induction from the fact that most of the time when you right something, it's come from thoughts. And you generally have to have a thought before you write that thought down

so morals would were created,

they were created to limit us in general, and to limit our happiness.

by a group of people, to control the masses in the time to come

iqlet with a dictionary

 

[Tenres]

so morals would were created,

by a group of people, to control the masses in the time to come

iqlet with a dictionary

Thank God you quoted me with your own ridiculous grammatical errors or it would've been over for me.

Anyways, he says:

Morals come from relegion

I disagree.

What's confusing about this still? You have to know you're wrong by now so is it just a low self esteem thing. This will be my second to last response.

 

[emogymmaxx]

Thank God you quoted me with your own ridiculous grammatical errors or it would've been over for me.

Anyways, he says:


I disagree.

What's confusing about this still? You have to know you're wrong by now so is it just a low self esteem thing. This will be my second to last response.

JFL
this is so brutal, genuine autist who is larping a high iq.

I disagree.

Yeah so it's an induction from the fact that most of the time when you write something, it comes from thoughts. And you generally have to have a thought before you write that thought down

by a group of people, to control the masses in the time to come

Thank God you quoted me with your own ridiculous grammatical errors or it would've been over for me.

heres you saying im correct though

 

[Tenres]

JFL
this is so brutal, genuine autist who is larping a high iq.




heres you saying im correct though

Copying my rhetoric but that's ok. You're a slow kid with no charisma so you leech off me. Wtv.

What do you think we disagree on lol? Like what do you think my original point was?

 

[LXR]

I dont have any

 

[emogymmaxx]

Copying my rhetoric but that's ok. You're a slow kid with no charisma so you leech off me. Wtv.

What do you think we disagree on lol? Like what do you think my original point was?

you do realize you've made like 3 different points that all contradict each other in the entire time we've been talking right

 

[Tenres]

you do realize you've made like 3 different points that all contradict each other in the entire time we've been talking right

That doesn't answer my question. I'm just asking what you think my points were, any one of them

 

[emogymmaxx]

That doesn't answer my question. I'm just asking what you think my points were, any one of them

You don't believe in God, so you believe religious texts were manmade. Hence any morals embedded in religious narratives by necessity precede the texts.

if you cant figure out what i mean by this your a room temp iq as ive said this once already

 

[Tenres]

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if you cant figure out what i mean by this your a room temp iq as ive said this once already

Yeah so when you show to everyone you're incapable of answering basic questions, it's actually a really bad look. Its make you look like a sperg and a dumbass.

Edit: The desperate metamonkeying and never actually engaging with any argument is exactly what we should expect from an ESL 3rd world lowlife tho

 

[emogymmaxx]

Yeah so when you show to everyone you're incapable of answering basic questions, it's actually a really bad look. Its make you look like a sperg and a dumbass.

i just answered your question with exactly what you said and what the points were?

 

[Tenres]

i just answered your question with exactly what you said and what the points were?

Obviously I wanted you to paraphrase what you took my points to be, because I suspect you (a) don't know what I've claimed (b) you think I've made claims I haven't (c) there is likely some vocab that confused you, given your continual dictionary comments. I would be willing to help you with understanding anything I've said.

But anyways, imagine if your teacher asked you what the main point of a passage was and then you printed out a picture of the exact passage. That's what you did and it's probably maybe kinda stupid

 

[emogymmaxx]

That doesn't answer my question. I'm just asking what you think my points were, any one of them

Notice how you are absolutely retard. You don't believe in God, so you believe religious texts were manmade. Hence any morals embedded in religious narratives by necessity precede the texts.

Point A: hostile and vulgar language indicts that you
A: believe in God and believe he wrote the bible, which is why i asked you if you thought a God wrote our current bible.
you replied with once again hostile and vulgar language
B: are a chimping out low iq normie who doesn't know how to talk to people

No, dumbass. Can you read? If you're a naturalist, religious texts were written by men. Hence the ideas of these men preceded their creation of the texts.

once again backing up that you don't know what your talking about or are chimping out

What I'm saying in that message is that the morals in the text came before the texts creation. Si

you then said the morals in the bible, existed before the bible. when i asked you for a source on this you simply implied that this was the case as its in the bible, when i said so then they created them to control the masses in the time to come, you said im quoting you meaning you also back that up.
you then disagree that the morals in the bible were simply created by and for religion

PSA: idc abt grammar on a incel site + im trying to trigger you

 

[Tenres]

Point A: hostile and vulgar language indicts that you
A: believe in God and believe he wrote the bible, which is why i asked you if you thought a God wrote our current bible.
you replied with once again hostile and vulgar language
B: are a chimping out low iq normie who doesn't know how to talk to people

Right so clearly hostile and vulgar language is consistent with a multitude of hypothesis, including a hostility that carried over from previous interactions being the cause of my hostility. Or it could just be that I'm a staunch moralist. Both of these explain hostility and don't involve any religious commitments from me. Thirdly, when we look at the total evidence, it includes me telling you that I'm not religious. Hence we should update in favor of the hypotheses that are consistent with all the data.

B is just you larping as someone who has authority to say anyone else is dumb. The weird posturing from a guy who's brain is clearly mush is just bizzare and cringe.

once again backing up that you don't know what your talking about or are chimping out

Notice how neither of these supports your claim. You're confusing yourself now because of your subhuman working memory. Holy shit

you then said the morals in the bible, existed before the bible. when i asked you for a source on this you simply implied that this was the case as its in the bible, when i said so then they created them to control the masses in the time to come, you said im quoting you meaning you also back that up.
you then disagree that the morals in the bible were simply created by and for religion

No so my argument was that if the Bible is man made, any ideas in the Bible came from the minds of men. And their ideas preceded their writing of the ideas, right?

More broadly, the point is that whatever morals we are talking about that people decided to put into a text they wrote, they held the belief prior to writing.

 

[emogymmaxx]

B is just you larping as someone who has authority to say anyone else is dumb. The weird posturing from a guy who's brain is clearly mush is just bizzare and cringe.

i just dont want to entertain a ethnic trucel, have this conversation in call or in real life and ill actually care about it, sorry your life is revolved around a incel forum man,

Notice how neither of these supports your claim. You're confusing yourself now because of your subhuman working memory. Holy shit

i've been saying the same thing over and over man

Right so clearly hostile and vulgar language is consistent with a multitude of hypothesis, including a hostility that carried over from previous interactions being the cause of my hostility. Or it could just be that I'm a staunch moralist. Both of these explain hostility and don't involve any religious commitments from me. Thirdly, when we look at the total evidence, it includes me telling you that I'm not religious. Hence we should update in favor of the hypotheses that are consistent with all the data.

so you dont know how to talk to people because your a autist.. got it?

 

[JewishNationalist]

i don't have morals

 

[134applesauce456]

>society would collapse without it

> we need society

basic logic and reasoning

also innate empathy and integrity

but morals are up for interpretation and are very bendable imo

 

[JewishNationalist]

>society would collapse without it

> we need society

basic logic and reasoning

also innate empathy and integrity

but morals are up for interpretation and are very bendable imo

society wont collapse without it

 

[134applesauce456]

society wont collapse without it

elaborate because obviously it would

 

[Framemaxxx]

heckin basic human empathy

 

[JewishNationalist]

elaborate because obviously it would

ancient societies had no morals (in our sense) yet still were operating

 

[134applesauce456]

ancient societies had no morals (in our sense) yet still were operating

yep with mass rape murder pillaging theft

pretty nice society to live in if you ask me

 

[yushmaxx]

Morals come from relegion making them essentially a relegious belief, they were created to limit us in general, and to limit our happiness. No logical sane human who believes in god should have morals.

@Lvminositycc

there have been thousands of religions with millions of differing moral codes

people who make this argument assume that theres a dichotomy between religion and atheism, but no, its a conflict between thousands of different moral codes

aztecs religious moral code commanded them to sacrifice infants

 

[JewishNationalist]

yep with mass rape murder pillaging theft

pretty nice society to live in if you ask me

mass rape murder pillaging theft were happening only against weaklings, not strong people

 

[Tenres]

i just dont want to entertain a ethnic trucel, have this conversation in call or in real life and ill actually care about it, sorry your life is revolved around a incel forum man,

i've been saying the same thing over and over man

so you dont know how to talk to people because your a autist.. got it?

You are a literal untermensch

Subhuman galore. Muhh I'm not taking it seriously, yeah bro you're not rattled at all

 

[emogymmaxx]

Subhuman galore. Muhh I'm not taking it seriously, yeah bro you're not rattled at all

im 6'2-3 200 at 17 btw
also i dont care about you bro

 

[Tenres]

im 6'2-3 200 at 17 btw
also i dont care about you bro

W edit RATTLED

 

[emogymmaxx]

W edit RATTLED

i forgot to say something because im playing valorant

 

[Tenres]

Anyways, I think moral subjectivism (even though I'm kinda uncertain about either side) is def the safe edgy position to take. In general moral talk is so much less determinate than anything else in philosophy, so you can just kinda say random shit and never be wrong. And you get to counter signal moralists (who are based, tho) and larp high IQ by saying shit like "morality is fake."

That guy FaceIQ was on that shit too and then said the guys who beat the shit out of him were "evil" which shows how strong these commitments really are

 

[Tenres]

i forgot to say something because im playing valorant

Bounces to show submission

 

[emogymmaxx]

Bounces to show submission

i would no joke put you in the icu for 2 weeks irl brother

 

[Tenres]

i would no joke put you in the icu for 2 weeks irl brother

Yeah luckily this is an online forum dumbass so you're just going to keep fuming for me like the good bitch you are.

Edit: not to be too narcy, but am I not the best at this. Maybe ever, some people are saying