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It doesn't matter how hard you ascend, if you never got social reinforcement and a semi-normal/non-traumatic upbringing from 0-18 then your brain is permanently damaged and you will never live even a normal life or a good life
 
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It doesn't matter how hard you ascend, if you never got social reinforcement and a semi-normal/non-traumatic upbringing from 0-18 then your brain is permanently damaged and you will never live even a normal life or a good life
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definitelyyyy a good life no question, a little story when puberty hit making me chopped from 2021-2023, i was ltn and i was invisible to people got rejected a few times, got cheated on etc, i ascended to mtn in 2024 but being mtn i didn’t get much attention but in early 2025 i starting taking things serious, i was doing everything i could n ascended to htn w a lot of appeal and life literally changed, everybody was glazing me, when i go out strangers say i look like a model dudes say im majestic, majority of my school wanted me, girls would randomly come up to me and say im beautiful, i was the best looking white male at my school n won best looking senior award, i’d get 5-10 compliments a day from girls, guys my teachers, doctors etc.. older women would try to get with me i’ve dated 15-20 girls this year, when i go out to eat w my friends friend group i’ve never met before they say i look quote “sculpted by god” obviously im not chad or anything but i definitely took over the spotlight and with that there was a small handful of ltns who called me “ugly” and “gay” who envied me even tho i life-mog them n could steal their bitch and mind you i have no social skills, im a neurodivergent freak, i treat girls like shit and an asshole to ppl yet everyone still loves me platonically. as for dating i try to stay single and my friends say “i feel like you purposely stay single so no one can have you” and it’s true bc i don’t want anyone to have me to themselves , now i just goto clubs and parties and date multiple girls at once and keep on the low and never ask them to be my gf. life from 2024 to 2025 literally improved so much js because of how i looked. im definitely not the best looking but im getting up there, im also european speak 4 languages and have a extremely rare name, im muscular & lean w a small waist & broad shoulders also 5’10 so its not js my face that makes me a 1 of 1. but unfortunately have a bunch of mental problems that make me fucked up
 
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definitelyyyy a good life no question, a little story when puberty hit making me chopped from 2021-2023, i was ltn and i was invisible to people got rejected a few times, got cheated on etc, i ascended to mtn in 2024 but being mtn i didn’t get much attention but in early 2025 i starting taking things serious, i was doing everything i could n ascended to htn w a lot of appeal and life literally changed, everybody was glazing me, when i go out strangers say i look like a model dudes say im majestic, majority of my school wanted me, girls would randomly come up to me and say im beautiful, i was the best looking white male at my school n won best looking senior award, i’d get 5-10 compliments a day from girls, guys my teachers, doctors etc.. older women would try to get with me i’ve dated 15-20 girls this year, when i go out to eat w my friends friend group i’ve never met before they say i look quote “sculpted by god” obviously im not chad or anything but i definitely took over the spotlight and with that there was a small handful of ltns who called me “ugly” and “gay” who envied me even tho i life-mog them n could steal their bitch and mind you i have no social skills, im a neurodivergent freak, i treat girls like shit and an asshole to ppl yet everyone still loves me platonically. as for dating i try to stay single and my friends say “i feel like you purposely stay single so no one can have you” and it’s true bc i don’t want anyone to have me to themselves , now i just goto clubs and parties and date multiple girls at once and keep on the low and never ask them to be my gf. life from 2024 to 2025 literally improved so much js because of how i looked. im definitely not the best looking but im getting up there, im also european speak 4 languages and have a extremely rare name, im muscular & lean w a small waist & broad shoulders also 5’10 so its not js my face that makes me a 1 of 1. but unfortunately have a bunch of mental problems that make me fucked up
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definitelyyyy a good life no question, a little story when puberty hit making me chopped from 2021-2023, i was ltn and i was invisible to people got rejected a few times, got cheated on etc, i ascended to mtn in 2024 but being mtn i didn’t get much attention but in early 2025 i starting taking things serious, i was doing everything i could n ascended to htn w a lot of appeal and life literally changed, everybody was glazing me, when i go out strangers say i look like a model dudes say im majestic, majority of my school wanted me, girls would randomly come up to me and say im beautiful, i was the best looking white male at my school n won best looking senior award, i’d get 5-10 compliments a day from girls, guys my teachers, doctors etc.. older women would try to get with me i’ve dated 15-20 girls this year, when i go out to eat w my friends friend group i’ve never met before they say i look quote “sculpted by god” obviously im not chad or anything but i definitely took over the spotlight and with that there was a small handful of ltns who called me “ugly” and “gay” who envied me even tho i life-mog them n could steal their bitch and mind you i have no social skills, im a neurodivergent freak, i treat girls like shit and an asshole to ppl yet everyone still loves me platonically. as for dating i try to stay single and my friends say “i feel like you purposely stay single so no one can have you” and it’s true bc i don’t want anyone to have me to themselves , now i just goto clubs and parties and date multiple girls at once and keep on the low and never ask them to be my gf. life from 2024 to 2025 literally improved so much js because of how i looked. im definitely not the best looking but im getting up there, im also european speak 4 languages and have a extremely rare name, im muscular & lean w a small waist & broad shoulders also 5’10 so its not js my face that makes me a 1 of 1. but unfortunately have a bunch of mental problems that make me fucked up
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It doesn't matter how hard you ascend, if you never got social reinforcement and a semi-normal/non-traumatic upbringing from 0-18 then your brain is permanently damaged and you will never live even a normal life or a good life
Ur brain doesn’t adapt theory
 
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I didn't do much, and just ascended from mltn (middle school) to lmtn (11th grade high school) to I'd say lhtn-mhtn from puberty from mid 17-early 18 (12th grade). As of current (20), i grew a brow bone, an inch of height, and my cheekbones got wider from more bone mass (again i did nothing), and I look even better cuz my pfl is high and i no longer have round eyes.

I don't know if I'd consider it a "good life" (besides the food and anti-rape stuff) and more just a better quality of life in my day-to-day. After a certain looks threshold, there's more to life than just mogging and girls. Looks alone don't define a good life unless you're an outlier (e.g Meeks). I feel a true good lifer is tall, good looking, and rich. Regardless, I'll give some recent and memorable "good quality of life" experiences:

  1. got called beautiful while walking on the street by a girl near my college. This made me very uncomfortable and i smiled like this :forcedsmile: while saying "thanks" in a shaky voice since I was caught so off-guard. Was the first that ever happened to me.
  2. Not rlly relevant but funny: This dude, who watched Zherka, Goatis, Sam Hyde (basically covertly blackpilled before it was mainstream), lost his mind when he saw me after high school. He kept saying "wtf did you do?", "you look so much better". I 🤷‍♂️... He still eats raw meat to this day and has had gout on several occasions.
  3. This one makes me cringe, but my professor used to ONLY ask me if i needed help, no one else in the class. The rest had to raise their hands or ask him directly. Small class, as well; I'm pretty sure the whole class wanted to murder me. I'd die inside every time he addressed me :forcedsmile: .
  4. 2 girls gawked at me while walking out of the liquor store. They were chopped blondes and drunk. Sounds so tales, but they literally shrieked when i walked past them jfl
  5. Another liquor store story, at checkout, this girl was just standing around with her friends; got extremely close to my face from the side (like 6 inches away, saw her peripherally) and just stood next to me. I guess she wanted me to make a move? i was dying inside about getting carded and just speed walked away after getting my booze jfl.
  6. This one is ridiculous... My professor rubbed my shoulders while she was talking to me from behind JFL.
  7. Got free food (flat out, or added desserts for free) or discounts several times by male workers... Could've been some gay but some of them looked very straight. Though i do question it since surely that's gay...
  8. After presenting while on Adderall in college, I was so fucking nervous (legit shaking), I sat down, and blacked out mentally. I sighed while laying down my head on a girls thigh who was wearing short shorts unintentionally. I literally recoiled upwards when I realized, but It ended up being an ice breaker. I know where that interaction could've gone if I were ugly given my face touched her bare thigh.
  9. Irrelevant but funny: I went to an Esthetician, and my Estheticians' co-worker (my age) had sparkling eyes with full teeth show while talking to me. I was talking about tweezers.

I'm a 5'9 skinny manlet and would trade it all to be ltn (with green eyes), wide, and 6'3. I know my existence is irrelevant if lights are dimmed.
 
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Damn so you get more positive interactions in your day to day and more female attention but life itself is still the same? And yeah getting heightmogged isnt fun.
I didn't do much, and just ascended from mltn (middle school) to lmtn (11th grade high school) to I'd say lhtn-mhtn from puberty from mid 17-early 18 (12th grade). As of current (20), i grew a brow bone, an inch of height, and my cheekbones got wider from more bone mass (again i did nothing), and I look even better cuz my pfl is high and i no longer have round eyes.

I don't know if I'd consider it a "good life" (besides the food and anti-rape stuff) and more just a better quality of life in my day-to-day. After a certain looks threshold, there's more to life than just mogging and girls. Looks alone don't define a good life unless you're an outlier (e.g Meeks). I feel a true good lifer is tall, good looking, and rich. Regardless, I'll give some recent and memorable "good quality of life" experiences:

  1. got called beautiful while walking on the street by a girl near my college. This made me very uncomfortable and i smiled like this :forcedsmile: while saying "thanks" in a shaky voice since I was caught so off-guard. Was the first that ever happened to me.
  2. Not rlly relevant but funny: This dude, who watched Zherka, Goatis, Sam Hyde (basically covertly blackpilled before it was mainstream), lost his mind when he saw me after high school. He kept saying "wtf did you do?", "you look so much better". I 🤷‍♂️... He still eats raw meat to this day and has had gout on several occasions.
  3. This one makes me cringe, but my professor used to ONLY ask me if i needed help, no one else in the class. The rest had to raise their hands or ask him directly. Small class, as well; I'm pretty sure the whole class wanted to murder me. I'd die inside every time he addressed me :forcedsmile: .
  4. 2 girls gawked at me while walking out of the liquor store. They were chopped blondes and drunk. Sounds so tales, but they literally shrieked when i walked past them jfl
  5. Another liquor store story, at checkout, this girl was just standing around with her friends; got extremely close to my face from the side (like 6 inches away, saw her peripherally) and just stood next to me. I guess she wanted me to make a move? i was dying inside about getting carded and just speed walked away after getting my booze jfl.
  6. This one is ridiculous... My professor rubbed my shoulders while she was talking to me from behind JFL.
  7. Got free food (flat out, or added desserts for free) or discounts several times by male workers... Could've been some gay but some of them looked very straight. Though i do question it since surely that's gay...
  8. After presenting while on Adderall in college, I was so fucking nervous (legit shaking), I sat down, and blacked out mentally. I sighed while laying down my head on a girls thigh who was wearing short shorts unintentionally. I literally recoiled upwards when I realized, but It ended up being an ice breaker. I know where that interaction could've gone if I were ugly given my face touched her bare thigh.
  9. Irrelevant but funny: I went to an Esthetician, and my Estheticians' co-worker (my age) had sparkling eyes with full teeth show while talking to me. I was talking about tweezers.

I'm a 5'9 skinny manlet and would trade it all to be ltn (with green eyes), wide, and 6'3. I know my existence is irrelevant if lights are dimmed.
 
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definitelyyyy a good life no question, a little story when puberty hit making me chopped from 2021-2023, i was ltn and i was invisible to people got rejected a few times, got cheated on etc, i ascended to mtn in 2024 but being mtn i didn’t get much attention but in early 2025 i starting taking things serious, i was doing everything i could n ascended to htn w a lot of appeal and life literally changed, everybody was glazing me, when i go out strangers say i look like a model dudes say im majestic, majority of my school wanted me, girls would randomly come up to me and say im beautiful, i was the best looking white male at my school n won best looking senior award, i’d get 5-10 compliments a day from girls, guys my teachers, doctors etc.. older women would try to get with me i’ve dated 15-20 girls this year, when i go out to eat w my friends friend group i’ve never met before they say i look quote “sculpted by god” obviously im not chad or anything but i definitely took over the spotlight and with that there was a small handful of ltns who called me “ugly” and “gay” who envied me even tho i life-mog them n could steal their bitch and mind you i have no social skills, im a neurodivergent freak, i treat girls like shit and an asshole to ppl yet everyone still loves me platonically. as for dating i try to stay single and my friends say “i feel like you purposely stay single so no one can have you” and it’s true bc i don’t want anyone to have me to themselves , now i just goto clubs and parties and date multiple girls at once and keep on the low and never ask them to be my gf. life from 2024 to 2025 literally improved so much js because of how i looked. im definitely not the best looking but im getting up there, im also european speak 4 languages and have a extremely rare name, im muscular & lean w a small waist & broad shoulders also 5’10 so its not js my face that makes me a 1 of 1. but unfortunately have a bunch of mental problems that make me fucked up
W so your whole social life changed basically. Did u do hardmaxxes or was ur base fixable/good.
 
Whatever it is now, it will be way better after ascending
 
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It doesn't matter how hard you ascend, if you never got social reinforcement and a semi-normal/non-traumatic upbringing from 0-18 then your brain is permanently damaged and you will never live even a normal life or a good life
false. the pathways can be reset

you do have to actually ascend first tho
 
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Better in most cases.
 
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Damn so you get more positive interactions in your day to day and more female attention but life itself is still the same? And yeah getting heightmogged isnt fun.
Relatively speaking, no, it's much different. It's a big improvement, though it was all so gradual, it doesn't feel drastic. Add in the fact the changes were all social as well. Which while they can lead to physical actions, arent inherently physical IMO so my life doesnt feel structurally different. To me, I still live the same old life (still waste free time on CSS+alchohol, and live in the same place) with a better social life in a sense, to me its not a big deal. The same way a tall guy doesn't see his height as a big deal.

We also want better, and after a certain point you reach a new baseline where you find importance in other attributes. Regardless, I'm not very content with my life. Female attention and attention in general doesnt fix any of that, it brightens my day transiently, similarly to a drug. I dont consider it a true good life just better. Good life to me is the social aspects of looks+height, the physicality money grants you (being able to move you around, the things that can be touched through it), and the freedom to pursue my hobbies freely.

Though he asked if ascending gives a good life by default and thats what I gave my opinion on. I feel you need the whole package for that. Even then, you'd probably be stuck in the same cycle of finding the next thing, so who knows.

Yes unfortunatley the height mog is brutal... Congratulations to all the tallcels.
 
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false. the pathways can be reset

you do have to actually ascend first tho
Cope, name one person that has genuinely happened to, even actual celebrities who become famous millionaire slayers like Kurt Cobaine cant hold back the traumas from their painful past
 
Relatively speaking, no, it's much different. It's a big improvement, though it was all so gradual, it doesn't feel drastic. Add in the fact the changes were all social as well. Which while they can lead to physical actions, arent inherently physical IMO so my life doesnt feel structurally different. To me, I still live the same old life (still waste free time on CSS+alchohol, and live in the same place) with a better social life in a sense, to me its not a big deal. The same way a tall guy doesn't see his height as a big deal.

We also want better, and after a certain point you reach a new baseline where you find importance in other attributes. Regardless, I'm not very content with my life. Female attention and attention in general doesnt fix any of that, it brightens my day transiently, similarly to a drug. I dont consider it a true good life just better. Good life to me is the social aspects of looks+height, the physicality money grants you (being able to move you around, the things that can be touched through it), and the freedom to pursue my hobbies freely.

Though he asked if ascending gives a good life by default and thats what I was answering. I feel you need the whole package for that. Even then, you'd probably be stuck in the same cycle of finding the next thing, so who knows.

Yes unfortunatley the height mog is brutal... Congratulations to all the tallcels.
Last part esp your always gonna chase the next thing. Ty for sharing 🙏
 
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definitelyyyy a good life no question, a little story when puberty hit making me chopped from 2021-2023, i was ltn and i was invisible to people got rejected a few times, got cheated on etc, i ascended to mtn in 2024 but being mtn i didn’t get much attention but in early 2025 i starting taking things serious, i was doing everything i could n ascended to htn w a lot of appeal and life literally changed, everybody was glazing me, when i go out strangers say i look like a model dudes say im majestic, majority of my school wanted me, girls would randomly come up to me and say im beautiful, i was the best looking white male at my school n won best looking senior award, i’d get 5-10 compliments a day from girls, guys my teachers, doctors etc.. older women would try to get with me i’ve dated 15-20 girls this year, when i go out to eat w my friends friend group i’ve never met before they say i look quote “sculpted by god” obviously im not chad or anything but i definitely took over the spotlight and with that there was a small handful of ltns who called me “ugly” and “gay” who envied me even tho i life-mog them n could steal their bitch and mind you i have no social skills, im a neurodivergent freak, i treat girls like shit and an asshole to ppl yet everyone still loves me platonically. as for dating i try to stay single and my friends say “i feel like you purposely stay single so no one can have you” and it’s true bc i don’t want anyone to have me to themselves , now i just goto clubs and parties and date multiple girls at once and keep on the low and never ask them to be my gf. life from 2024 to 2025 literally improved so much js because of how i looked. im definitely not the best looking but im getting up there, im also european speak 4 languages and have a extremely rare name, im muscular & lean w a small waist & broad shoulders also 5’10 so its not js my face that makes me a 1 of 1. but unfortunately have a bunch of mental problems that make me fucked up
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if u luh guh then guh if u luh normal then normal
 
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Cope, name one person that has genuinely happened to, even actual celebrities who become famous millionaire slayers like Kurt Cobaine cant hold back the traumas from their painful past
skill issue

i've managed to recover lost inner light not once but even 2 times and im prepared to do it again

If you'd been lurking long enough, you'll have seen a decent chunk of users (benchmaxxer being the most recent one i know) manage to socially recalibrate after ascending, but since they delete org and dont come back you forget about them. I've overcome plenty of traumas but i keep farming more because i havent properly ascended yet 😣
 
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It doesn't matter how hard you ascend, if you never got social reinforcement and a semi-normal/non-traumatic upbringing from 0-18 then your brain is permanently damaged and you will never live even a normal life or a good life
cope, new looks = new life
 
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Good life. Passing the IRL "attractive" threshold, which is literally as low as HMTN, if not just MTN will already ascend the ever living shit outta your life experience. Get into HTN territory and you're essentially living life as a deity. MTN is already well above average just so you know, but most can reach it. Most guys are some shade of LTN
 
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I didn't do much, and just ascended from mltn (middle school) to lmtn (11th grade high school) to I'd say lhtn-mhtn from puberty from mid 17-early 18 (12th grade). As of current (20), i grew a brow bone, an inch of height, and my cheekbones got wider from more bone mass (again i did nothing), and I look even better cuz my pfl is high and i no longer have round eyes.

I don't know if I'd consider it a "good life" (besides the food and anti-rape stuff) and more just a better quality of life in my day-to-day. After a certain looks threshold, there's more to life than just mogging and girls. Looks alone don't define a good life unless you're an outlier (e.g Meeks). I feel a true good lifer is tall, good looking, and rich. Regardless, I'll give some recent and memorable "good quality of life" experiences:

  1. got called beautiful while walking on the street by a girl near my college. This made me very uncomfortable and i smiled like this :forcedsmile: while saying "thanks" in a shaky voice since I was caught so off-guard. Was the first that ever happened to me.
  2. Not rlly relevant but funny: This dude, who watched Zherka, Goatis, Sam Hyde (basically covertly blackpilled before it was mainstream), lost his mind when he saw me after high school. He kept saying "wtf did you do?", "you look so much better". I 🤷‍♂️... He still eats raw meat to this day and has had gout on several occasions.
  3. This one makes me cringe, but my professor used to ONLY ask me if i needed help, no one else in the class. The rest had to raise their hands or ask him directly. Small class, as well; I'm pretty sure the whole class wanted to murder me. I'd die inside every time he addressed me :forcedsmile: .
  4. 2 girls gawked at me while walking out of the liquor store. They were chopped blondes and drunk. Sounds so tales, but they literally shrieked when i walked past them jfl
  5. Another liquor store story, at checkout, this girl was just standing around with her friends; got extremely close to my face from the side (like 6 inches away, saw her peripherally) and just stood next to me. I guess she wanted me to make a move? i was dying inside about getting carded and just speed walked away after getting my booze jfl.
  6. This one is ridiculous... My professor rubbed my shoulders while she was talking to me from behind JFL.
  7. Got free food (flat out, or added desserts for free) or discounts several times by male workers... Could've been some gay but some of them looked very straight. Though i do question it since surely that's gay...
  8. After presenting while on Adderall in college, I was so fucking nervous (legit shaking), I sat down, and blacked out mentally. I sighed while laying down my head on a girls thigh who was wearing short shorts unintentionally. I literally recoiled upwards when I realized, but It ended up being an ice breaker. I know where that interaction could've gone if I were ugly given my face touched her bare thigh.
  9. Irrelevant but funny: I went to an Esthetician, and my Estheticians' co-worker (my age) had sparkling eyes with full teeth show while talking to me. I was talking about tweezers.

I'm a 5'9 skinny manlet and would trade it all to be ltn (with green eyes), wide, and 6'3. I know my existence is irrelevant if lights are dimmed.
This is already a million times better treatment than what most men receive throughout their entire lives without even knowing what they're missing out on. I know it doesn't seem like much, but getting play without needing to approach is so refreshing, you would hate it if you had to go back. Try empathizing with guys who have to spam approach to land a 4/10 roastie, while you can tweak out on uni bitches and get something going, instead of a restraining order. Also, your life would literally downgrade so hard if you actually woke up as a 6'3 LTN ogre, like look at the lives of the millions of tall LTN ogres out there. They're shit. Women are literally scared of them
 
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Yes unfortunatley the height mog is brutal... Congratulations to all the tallcels.
I don't get how you can still get triggered by getting heightmogged after growing up hot. Literally it's all just in your head. If you're hot, respectable men respect you and women wanna date you if they ain't taller than you. Idk why it's always the 5'9-5'11 guys coping the hardest about height, like dude you ain't even short. I feel like 5'6-5'8 guys are less butthurt about height because they just always get heightmogged by everyone around them and it's just noise for them, while still being at a height where you don't get completely shafted by it.
 
If you’re ltn and you ascend to htn then it will be great ofc if you’re subhuman and make it to mtn then it would be good just depends on what you get to
 
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This is already a million times better treatment than what most men receive throughout their entire lives without even knowing what they're missing out on. I know it doesn't seem like much, but getting play without needing to approach is so refreshing, you would hate it if you had to go back. Try empathizing with guys who have to spam approach to land a 4/10 roastie, while you can tweak out on uni bitches and get something going, instead of a restraining order. Also, your life would literally downgrade so hard if you actually woke up as a 6'3 LTN ogre, like look at the lives of the millions of tall LTN ogres out there. They're shit. Women are literally scared of them
I agree with you, no doubt. Yes, I can't truly empathize with certain people since my reality is mine, and as is theirs. Though, since I know my reality, I truly wouldn't mind just having pure physicality and no looks, since I already got a taste of them. Of course, if I woke up with my mind cleared from my previous reality while being tall and LTN, I wouldn't feel the same way as I do now.

I don't get how you can still get triggered by getting heightmogged after growing up hot. Literally it's all just in your head. If you're hot, respectable men respect you and women wanna date you if they ain't taller than you. Idk why it's always the 5'9-5'11 guys coping the hardest about height, like dude you ain't even short. I feel like 5'6-5'8 guys are less butthurt about height because they just always get heightmogged by everyone around them and it's just noise for them, while still being at a height where you don't get completely shafted by it.
I genuinely feel inferior when presented near large statured people irregardless of their face 🤷‍♂️ Looks don't give physicality (maybe in combination), add in the rare occasions where I travel internationally and get matched looks wise + brutally build mogged. For example this prob 6'6, proportional, lean/wiry, and wide Saudi HTN, it's ropefuel. Like I said we'll always want better, and I might seem ungrateful but its just relative to my reality. It's easy to say "If I get X, I'll never complain again" but that's because you know X is impossible, because X will probably never happen, you don't have to live up to it, it's easy to make that promise to yourself. Impossibility prevents disconfirmation.
 
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