Ascending is stupid easy

[zemult]

I don't even think that being on here necessarily equates to someone having an abundance of falios and harmony issues that would significantly combat the positive effects of softmaxxing.

I think it's just a matter of they had low self-esteem to begin with and when they discover the blackpill they are BOMBARDED with the uncomfortable truth that their face is technically "ugly" because they don't have "optimal ratios."

I don't think that they overrate to cope because with enough time in the blackpill they will come to terms with how "ugly" they are and they take pride in that because they feel as if they are accepting reality.
Plus due to confirmation bias they will likely incorrectly equate their interactions in the real world to them being ugly, so they will adjust their rating of their looks fasley.
And they will inevitably ask for their face to get rated and blackpill mfs are harsh and will call them ugly.

But there would definitely be a lot of people with an abundance of falios and harmony issues here I just hate seeing people count themselves out for the reasons above.

Niggas need to STOP sleeping on softmaxxing.
It doesn't matter if you are 5'7, or have some horrible falio you will look legitimately 3x better if you completely softmax and you will feel confident finally.
Yes it's that simple softmaxxing is the 80/20 of the results, if you are ACTUALLY ugly and not just fucked by the blackpill/incel community then get a few surgerys sure.
If it's really that important to them they will find a way, it's just a money problem at that point. But it all starts with softmaxxing.

Pitiful these niggas don't workout because they diagnose themselves with facial LTN disease.

I understand your perspective, I just disagree personally from the users I've interacted with.

The ones that are truly on here for years on end and are active are more than not being hindered significantly by something they can't control (genetics).

The fakecels that are fat or acne ridden and self-diagnose them with LTN syndrome, or just love getting pity points from incels, are usually gone within a year or maybe 2 at most. because they get bored of larping or dooming around when they know it's just a power fantasy.

I've genetically had clear skin and good eyebrows. I was once fat but I fixed that, unfortunately no amount of fat loss will resolve your narrow jaw and horrible orbital fat pads.

I do want to start gymcelling however, even after hardmaxxing I don't think my face alone will be able to give me any success in the current dating market. I'm also accounting for severely lacking in experience which also hinders me a lot.

The main thing I have going for me is my pheno (white with blue eyes), but other than that softmaxxing isn't going to save me, and it's not going to save a lot of other people. It's all about your face.

 

[getAlLifeMaxxing]

I understand your perspective, I just disagree personally from the users I've interacted with.

The ones that are truly on here for years on end and are active are more than not being hindered significantly by something they can't control (genetics).

The fakecels that are fat or acne ridden and self-diagnose them with LTN syndrome, or just love getting pity points from incels, are usually gone within a year or maybe 2 at most. because they get bored of larping or dooming around when they know it's just a power fantasy.

I've genetically had clear skin and good eyebrows. I was once fat but I fixed that, unfortunately no amount of fat loss will resolve your narrow jaw and horrible orbital fat pads.

I do want to start gymcelling however, even after hardmaxxing I don't think my face alone will be able to give me any success in the current dating market. I'm also accounting for severely lacking in experience which also hinders me a lot.

The main thing I have going for me is my pheno (white with blue eyes), but other than that softmaxxing isn't going to save me, and it's not going to save a lot of other people. It's all about your face.

I understand I guess there is a point where genetic falios are TOO apparent and TOO obvious to be a result of someone with low self-esteem unknowingly stumbling upon the blackpill and getting their mindset fucked up.

But even then the line where the term "its over" is used is WAYYYYY too severe by blackpillers.

Maybe you genuinely have a terribly narrow jaw and horrible orbital fat pads, but cmon man.
Not speaking to you only but why no workout? Why not experience the laundry list of health benefits and be able to look in the mirror and genuinely be proud of yourself and feel sexy even despite your insecurities? Why not stylemax and feel good in your own body?

I think you get the point. There is no downside to softmaxxing. No matter how "right" you are that it is over for you because you and blackpill retards self-determined that it is OVER.

It's a combination of a lazy cop-out and a genuinely sad defeatist mindset.

You can always get the surgery later, and for the love of god: "just softmax bro"

 

[zemult]

I understand I guess there is a point where genetic falios are TOO apparent and TOO obvious to be a result of someone with low self-esteem unknowingly stumbling upon the blackpill and getting their mindset fucked up.

But even then the line where the term "its over" is used is WAYYYYY too severe by blackpillers.

Maybe you genuinely have a terribly narrow jaw and horrible orbital fat pads, but cmon man.
Not speaking to you only but why no workout? Why not experience the laundry list of health benefits and be able to look in the mirror and genuinely be proud of yourself and feel sexy even despite your insecurities? Why not stylemax and feel good in your own body?

I think you get the point. There is no downside to softmaxxing. No matter how "right" you are that it is over for you because you and blackpill retards self-determined that it is OVER.

It's a combination of a lazy cop-out and a genuinely sad defeatist mindset.

You can always get the surgery later, and for the love of god: "just softmax bro"

I do think physiquemaxxing is something I've been slacking on, mostly because it's something that can't happen overnight when I'm hardmaxxed.

Originally I was just planning on doing it during the swelling period but it probably wouldn't be enough time.

You're using low self esteem wrong though.

Incels only have low self esteem because they've experienced a life which lead you to the conclusion that women don't want you.

It is truly one causes the other, nobody develops low self esteem from a good life of being accepted into society.

 

[NateJacobs]

Plus due to confirmation bias they will likely incorrectly equate their interactions in the real world to them being ugly, so they will adjust their rating of their looks fasley.

REAL ASF. There have been so many times in the last few years where something bad or even good happens to me and i equate it to my looks but then the same thing happens to someone else who ik is gl or ugly and then i realize i was tweaking. i could narrowly avoid a rejection because i find out the girl has a man and then i realize if i did get curved w/o that knowledge i would have thought i was subhuman. I tie almost every interaction into my looks the blackpill def messed up my brain in that regard.

I understand your perspective, I just disagree personally from the users I've interacted with.

The ones that are truly on here for years on end and are active are more than not being hindered significantly by something they can't control (genetics).

The fakecels that are fat or acne ridden and self-diagnose them with LTN syndrome, or just love getting pity points from incels, are usually gone within a year or two

coming up on 2 years being here, thot i would have left my junior year but nope. Im a dopamine junkie and i love using this site to vent and share experiences i cannot talk about irl due to me not trusting people and bcuz i do say and think crazy things

 

[getAlLifeMaxxing]

I do think physiquemaxxing is something I've been slacking on, mostly because it's something that can't happen overnight when I'm hardmaxxed.

Originally I was just planning on doing it during the swelling period but it probably wouldn't be enough time.

You're using low self esteem wrong though.

Incels only have low self esteem because they've experienced a life which lead you to the conclusion that women don't want you.

It is truly one causes the other, nobody develops low self esteem from a good life of being accepted into society.

Yeah no one develops low-self esteem from living a good life and being hideous isn't the only way to develop low-self esteem.

Traumatic childhood, bullying, ect.

Someone that has low-self esteem from a traumatic childhood will be susceptible to dramatically overstating their "ugliness" when they find the blackpill.

That's fair to say no?

 

[zemult]

Yeah no one develops low-self esteem from living a good life and being hideous isn't the only way to develop low-self esteem.

Traumatic childhood, bullying, ect.

Someone that has low-self esteem from a traumatic childhood will be susceptible to dramatically overstating their "ugliness" when they find the blackpill.

That's fair to say no?

In early childhood yeah, but at a point of being in these environments.. if you are wanted, you will know.

Incels were never wanted.

 

[zemult]

REAL ASF. There have been so many times in the last few years where something bad or even good happens to me and i equate it to my looks but then the same thing happens to someone else who ik is gl or ugly and then i realize i was tweaking. i could narrowly avoid a rejection because i find out the girl has a man and then i realize if i did get curved w/o that knowledge i would have thought i was subhuman. I tie almost every interaction into my looks the blackpill def messed up my brain in that regard.

coming up on 2 years being here, thot i would have left my junior year but nope. Im a dopamine junkie and i love using this site to vent and share experiences i cannot talk about irl due to me not trusting people and bcuz i do say and think crazy things

You're likely one of the fakecels I was talking about in a previous reply

It's true for most, but some will stay

 

[getAlLifeMaxxing]

REAL ASF. There have been so many times in the last few years where something bad or even good happens to me and i equate it to my looks but then the same thing happens to someone else who ik is gl or ugly and then i realize i was tweaking. i could narrowly avoid a rejection because i find out the girl has a man and then i realize if i did get curved w/o that knowledge i would have thought i was subhuman. I tie almost every interaction into my looks the blackpill def messed up my brain in that regard.

coming up on 2 years being here, thot i would have left my junior year but nope. Im a dopamine junkie and i love using this site to vent and share experiences i cannot talk about irl due to me not trusting people and bcuz i do say and think crazy things

It's sad, blackpillers will literally debate, analyze, consume, think, ponder, vent about looks for HOURS too often, sometimes daily.

Imagine how inflated the value of looks is in their mind? look what it did to you.

Get out of here sooner rather than later, you are still NT and you've had success in the past.

Whatever you did to descend just work your way back up.

 

[getAlLifeMaxxing]

In early childhood yeah, but at a point of being in these environments.. if you are wanted, you will know.

Incels were never wanted.

You don't feel wanted when you are being bullied and you have a traumatic upbringing.

Being ugly doesn't bring a special type of low-self esteem, it's just another cause.

But yeah I've think I've said everything I wanted to say.

 

[zemult]

You don't feel wanted when you are being bullied and you have a traumatic upbringing.

Being ugly doesn't bring a special type of low-self esteem, it's just another cause.

But yeah I've think I've said everything I wanted to say.

It really depends, but if the incel wasn't homeschooled and was in a social environment for majority of his childhood, bullying doesn't matter - if they have good genetic material, a few girls would have at least showed interest in him. Giving him the confirmation that he wanted.

This is 5+ years we're talking about here. Not even counting College

 

[getAlLifeMaxxing]

It really depends, but if the incel wasn't homeschooled and was in a social environment for majority of his childhood, bullying doesn't matter - if they have good genetic material, a few girls would have at least showed interest in him. Giving him the confirmation that he wanted.

This is 5+ years we're talking about here. Not even counting College

"Bullying doesn't matter" TRUE bullying DESTROYS a persons self-esteem to the point where even someone good looking will believe they aren't worthy of love.
Even the validation they get from women won't be enough because they won't accept it.

We can agree to disagree though, this isn't a hill to die on. I believe my prior points are more important.

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

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"Ascending is stupid easy my boyo, just get a haircut and go to the gym."

just add a rhino, filler eyebrow transplant, Grow out hair. OBO and thats it

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

I understand your perspective, I just disagree personally from the users I've interacted with.

The ones that are truly on here for years on end and are active are more than not being hindered significantly by something they can't control (genetics).

The fakecels that are fat or acne ridden and self-diagnose them with LTN syndrome, or just love getting pity points from incels, are usually gone within a year or maybe 2 at most. because they get bored of larping or dooming around when they know it's just a power fantasy.

I've genetically had clear skin and good eyebrows. I was once fat but I fixed that, unfortunately no amount of fat loss will resolve your narrow jaw and horrible orbital fat pads.

I do want to start gymcelling however, even after hardmaxxing I don't think my face alone will be able to give me any success in the current dating market. I'm also accounting for severely lacking in experience which also hinders me a lot.

The main thing I have going for me is my pheno (white with blue eyes), but other than that softmaxxing isn't going to save me, and it's not going to save a lot of other people. It's all about your face.

jfl, fat pads get solved to filler and other topicals. narrow jaw means you arent lean. Take roids and gymmaxx. 99.99% of people can get saved. You arent the exception

 

[zemult]

jfl, fat pads get solved to filler and other topicals. narrow jaw means you arent lean. Take roids and gymmaxx. 99.99% of people can get saved. You arent the exception

Yeah just get filler and have it migrate jfl

"Narrow jaw" is not caused by excessive bodyfat rounded jaws are

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

Yeah just get filler and have it migrate jfl

"Narrow jaw" is not caused by excessive bodyfat rounded jaws are

I dont have pics of your face, I have zero clue what Im looking at. How old are you all that kind of stuff. Also fillers are pretty dumb I agree with you, Implants and shit. There is a risk with it Im aware of that but somthing you can consider. My point still stands that you can max almost anybody from inceldom.

 

[zemult]

I dont have pics of your face, I have zero clue what Im looking at. How old are you all that kind of stuff. Also fillers are pretty dumb I agree with you, Implants and shit. There is a risk with it Im aware of that but somthing you can consider. My point still stands that you can max almost anybody from inceldom.

I mean yeah, if you read what I said I'm getting implants and fat grafts.