Ascending whilst being nd means women now treat me great and men still treat me like shit

[Celt]

I really don’t have the same animosity towards women that most of you do because I’ve found that they’ve always been substantially nicer to me than men ever were, even more so after I ascended. Even before, they may have passed over me but they were almost always polite, if patronising at times, whilst other men were cruel and merciless.

If you are a neurodivergent male, nt men will always treat you like shit. This is just an objective fact. Your presence will annoy them. They won’t invite you to things, they’ll have discussions and group chats and hangouts behind your back. You’ll always be the butt of their jokes and the one people dogpile on. I mean actual clinical neurodivergence btw not your “im so heckin nd da beepee is so brutal bro im not like the normies”

This doesn’t change even when you get jacked and gain dimo and ascend or whatever. Maybe they get marginally less bold but I’ve found that even guys who are substantially smaller, weaker, uglier etc will be perfectly comfortable slighting you so long as they don’t expect physical retaliation, and if you ever do so they’ll call you a psycho and disassociate with you anyways

Men are competition. Those that are less attractive, intelligent successful etc are bitter and spiteful towards you and want to tear you down. Those that are moreso than you wish to gloat and humiliate you and crush your spirit because most men are inherently sadistic. This myth of a “brotherhood” of males against hypergamy is retarded and I seek no part of it

I was out today with a couple of people who I’ve come to realise tolerate my presence rather than enjoy it, and I had a number of interactions with both men and women.

Literally all of the interactions with women were positive, they were actually interested in listening to me and smiled a lot etc. But with the men (both known and strangers) I constantly found myself being ignored or slighted or treated with disinterest. The only men I ever tend to really get along with are either also nd or incel/volcel guys

If men treat you better than women do, you’re either subhuman or mid + nt and likeable, and to say otherwuse is cope

 

[slaviccartfiend]

thats so true, ive been treated far better by women all my life

 

[bibodude]

i dont know why people think that ugly gets treated badly by women.

when i was ltn i was still treated pretty good by women, maybe just in my country people are more nice , but even during school when i was at the worst i ever looked i remember i was sitting there with really bad posture and this girls and sitting next to me and she says something like "nice posture dude" to be a little bit rude, but then literaly right after that 2 same girls were talking about me and one of them said like "hes really cute though"

but that was even before i ascend and i was like a whole point or 1.5 lower, and now since i've never had experience where women was be rude to me or something, usually they treat me very nicely or neutrally, but never rude or mean

 

[Celt]

i dont know why people think that ugly gets treated badly by women.

when i was ltn i was still treated pretty good by women, maybe just in my country people are more nice , but even during school when i was at the worst i ever looked i remember i was sitting there with really bad posture and this girls and sitting next to me and she says something like "nice posture dude" to be a little bit rude, but then literaly right after that 2 same girls were talking about me and one of them said like "hes really cute though"

Not to sound like a bluepiller but its because a lot of guys consider being rejected and not “chosen” by women as an act of cruelty and malice rather than indifference because they consider themselves entitled to them

even stereotypical “mean girls” have always just picked on other girls. at worst they were sarcastic/patronising towards weird/autistic men, but women generally just dont go out of their way to be cruel to men at all

men treat ugly women way worse than women treat ugly men

And ok, in the spirit of the website i get that the dating market is brutal and the nature of hypergamy and female sexual selection can be soul destroying for a genetically unfortunate young man
But it just causes them to draw the wrong conclusions about the moral culpability of people involved. Hypergamy is an amoral process, it is just nature.

 

[bibodude]

Not to sound like a bluepiller but its because a lot of guys consider being rejected and not “chosen” by women as an act of cruelty and malice rather than indifference because they consider themselves entitled to them

even stereotypical “mean girls” have always just picked on other girls. at worst they were sarcastic/patronising towards weird/autistic men, but women generally just dont go out of their way to be cruel to men at all

men treat ugly women way worse than women treat ugly men

And ok, in the spirit of the website i get that the dating market is brutal and the nature of hypergamy and female sexual selection can be soul destroying for a genetically unfortunate young man
But it just causes them to draw the wrong conclusions about the moral culpability of people involved. Hypergamy is an amoral process, it is just nature.

yeah like every time whenever i am going outside basically, i see that in day to day interactions the better looking and taller guys arent treated that much differently by women than like short ugly guys just in regular day to day interactions, like usually for both of them its pretty neutral or just basic kindness.

like i dont know where people get an idea that just in the regular day that a tall handsome guy women will immediately just get in their knees and start kissing his feet, because i never seen them treating those guys really any differently than everyone else. maybe in like a nightclub it is more like this , but not in normal life.