Ascension Cycle

[jeff1234]

It really depends my family has never had an issue and never blocked it, died with a full head of hair and never had greasy oily skin with acne neither with me.

But they didn’t injected test didn’t they?

 

[repulse]

Use RU58841 on cycle for hairloss.

These faggots are talking out of their ass fearmongering in order to get everyone to hop of dut.

The fact of the matter is that dutasteride WILL inhibit potential periosteal bone formation, so youre not wrong for not wanting to take it.

Also given the fact that youre 16, your dick is still likely to grow especially on steroids, so I would not recommend you nandrolone by any means.

Ru58841if hairloss is a concern.

Exactly my point if hairloss becomes a concern I'll get RU that's fine but won't block dht systemically until I'm older and really need too

 

[slaters]

so I would not recommend you nandrolone by any mean

Thought nandrolone just causes ed wdym stunts dick growth?

 

[repulse]

But they didn’t injected test didn’t they?

My dad is on TRT and he's fine

 

[chadbeingmade]

@chadbeingmade and @Jonasㅤㅤ would love this one.

Make up your mind
Is DHT poison at any age, or only specifically after puberty?
OP should not take Dut at 16

DHT is literally important during development what

If you are in puberty DHT is worthless insofar as you have the desire to experiment with androgens, which it seems you are. But your retarded ass decided to chose masteron (which isn’t even DHT) over something that mogs in androgenicity like MENT & Tren that is also active in muscle tissue, unlike pissweak DHT.

These guys think DHT only causes hairloss and acne

It most definitely does. What a stupid thing to say.

The fact of the matter is that dutasteride WILL inhibit potential periosteal bone formation, so youre not wrong for not wanting to take it.

That’s cope when experimenting with other androgens or even just have supraphysiological Test levels.

Even when natty it’s questionable how much it really does. There isn’t much type 1 isoenzyme present in bone what so ever, and type 2 isn’t expressed at all in bone.

 

[repulse]

It most definitely does. What a stupid thing to say.

So why did men in my family never go bald and never had acne?

 

[aids]

So why did men in my family never go bald and never had acne?

Not everybody has MAA, doesn't mean you don't.

 

[repulse]

Not everybody has MAA, doesn't mean you don't.

Well it's true that u can be unlucky and get it but based on family history it's very unlikely

 

[chadbeingmade]

So why did men in my family never go bald and never had acne?

Are you retarded or something?

Conversely I can say why did my hairloss and acne completely go away after adding Dutasteride? Your argument is completely dogshit.

It’s a know fact that all androgens causes hair loss and upregulate sebaceous glands which means more oil production, sebum and more acne. It’s not up for debate. It depends on genetics and predisposition to hair loss and androgens.

The men who don't lose hair on steroids or lose hair in general are in the minority, especially as a white. Most people bald on steroids, not everyone gets acne but a lot of men do.

If you don’t lose hair on steroids then that's awesome. You have great genetics. (your parents hair loss genetics barely means anything, it can skip generations). My problem is faggots who dissuade users from using 5ar inhibitors and spread bs like “DHT doesn’t cause hair loss or acne” simply because YOU don't experience hairloss or acne. Fucking retarded fags.

 

[jeff1234]

Well it's true that u can be unlucky and get it but based on family history it's very unlikely

You are an idiot.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

That’s cope when experimenting with other androgens or even just have supraphysiological Test levels.

Even when natty it’s questionable how much it really does. There isn’t much type 1 isoenzyme present in bone what so ever, and type 2 isn’t expressed what so ever in bone.

From what ive read, 5ar knockout does lead to mild decreases in Periosteal formation

"The cortical bone dimensions were reduced in the male Srd5a1⁻/⁻ mice as a result of a reduced cortical periosteal circumference compared with WT mice"

Is this enough to justify the dimissal of dutasteride in his case?
Imo yes, given that hes only 16 and thus mostly has decent age related resistance to AGA can use RU instead

Dut is not a god particle. Not everyone needs it and I dont like the rhetoric that literally everyone should be using it.
Amazing compound for those who need it. But not everyone does

 

[repulse]

Are you retarded or something?

Conversely I can say why did my hairloss and acne completely go away after adding Dutasteride? Your argument is completely dogshit.

It’s a know fact that all androgens causes hair loss and upregulate sebaceous glands which means more oil production, sebum and more acne. It’s not up for debate. It depends on genetics and predisposition to hair loss and androgens.

The men who don't lose hair on steroids or lose hair in general are in the minority, especially as a white. Most people bald on steroids, not everyone gets acne but a lot of men do.

If you don’t lose hair on steroids then that's awesome. You have great genetics. (your parents hair loss genetics barely means anything, it can skip generations). My problem is faggots who dissuade users from using 5ar inhibitors and spread bs like “DHT doesn’t cause hair loss or acne” simply because YOU don't experience hairloss or acne. Fucking retarded fags.

You do know I've stated above if ur genetically inferior then go ahead and block DHT as it won't benefit you like the "lucky" people. DHT doesn't ONLY cause acne and balding it will turn u into a man, thicken your dick unless you're unlucky it's very unlikely it's skipped generations and this is probably from your mothers side if ur dad's side has no history of balding, but yeah I also stated above it can happen have u read anything or are u just pulling shit out of ur ass?

yes it does. I blast fuck tons of gear over the last couple of years and my hairline is perfect because no men in my family go bald
as we speak im on 750 test 200 mast 4ius hgh and 20 var hairline is perfect and I have never had hairloss

genes are everything

 

[chadbeingmade]

From what ive read, 5ar knockout does lead to mild decreases in Periosteal formation

"The cortical bone dimensions were reduced in the male Srd5a1⁻/⁻ mice as a result of a reduced cortical periosteal circumference compared with WT mice"

Is this enough to justify the dimissal of dutasteride in his case?
Imo yes, given that hes only 16 and thus mostly has decent age related resistance to AGA can use RU instead

Mice studies are cope. They are way more dependant on 5ar than humans.

 

[repulse]

From what ive read, 5ar knockout does lead to mild decreases in Periosteal formation

"The cortical bone dimensions were reduced in the male Srd5a1⁻/⁻ mice as a result of a reduced cortical periosteal circumference compared with WT mice"

Is this enough to justify the dimissal of dutasteride in his case?
Imo yes, given that hes only 16 and thus mostly has decent age related resistance to AGA can use RU instead

Dut is not a god particle. Not everyone needs it and I dont like the rhetoric that literally everyone should be using it.
Amazing compound for those who need it. But not everyone does

Exactly as I've stated not everyone needs to block DHT because for them it's not working against them (balding, acne, oily skin etc)

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Thought nandrolone just causes ed wdym stunts dick growth?

Your dick is filled with 5ar enzyme. This is why your dick is so sensitive to DHT.

With nandrolone on the otherhand the process is very counter intuitive.
As we all know, testosterone converts to dht which is like 10x stronger in agonizing the androgen receptor which gives you secondary you characteristics, like hairloss and a bigger dick.

But what nandrolone does instead when encountering the 5ar enzyme is convert to DHN which is an extremely weak androgen which clogs up the receptors and just does fuckall.
As a result you basicly get no androgenic signalling which will stop your dick from growing but will also result in less hairloss

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Mice studies are cope. They are way more dependant on 5ar than humans.

True tbh.

But I still dont think op should be hopping on a medication if he doesnt need it

 

[chadbeingmade]

But I still dont think op should be hopping on a medication if he doesnt need it

Said by every person on the planet before they experienced hair loss etc tbh.

Not to mention the inevitable of supraphysiological test and androgen levels which is the evisceration of his elastin which his genetics won’t save him against and cannot be repaired after the fact. It’s all about prevention.

I fully believe roiding is a looksmin without Dut tbh. He should at least be on a topical AA for skin as well if he isn’t going to use Dut.

 

[repulse]

Said by every person on the planet before they experienced hair loss etc tbh.

Not to mention the inevitable of supraphysiological test and androgen levels which is the evisceration of his elastin which his genetics won’t save him against and cannot be repaired after the fact. It’s all about prevention.

I fully believe roiding is a looksmin without Dut tbh. He should at least be on a topical AA for skin as well if he isn’t going to use Dut.

I will use RU and find something for skin if it comes about but blocking DHT is off the table for now.

 

[zdiaa]

16, 6’1, 68kg

Weeks 1–4:

• 300mg Test Cypionate/week
• 250 IU hCG twice weekly
• 12.5mg Aromasin every other day


Weeks 4–16:

• 300mg Test Cypionate/week
• 250 IU hCG twice weekly
• 12.5mg Aromasin EOD
• 2 IU HGH daily (bump to 4 IU after 2–3 weeks)
• 100mg Masteron Prop (if sourced)


Week 16-24

• 150mg Test Cypionate/week (cruise)
• 250 IU hCG twice weekly
• 4 IU HGH daily
• 6.25mg Aromasin EOD

Week 24
All of the above
2IU maintenance dose or leave it out
20mg Anavar ED
1-2mg Reta 1x weekly
-1000 Calorie Deficit

Rate this cycle.

wasting your money by using hcg proactively. not much point dropping the test from 300 to 150. run the hgh the whole time

 

[repulse]

wasting your money by using hcg proactively. not much point dropping the test from 300 to 150. run the hgh the whole time

Just cruise on 150-175 per week then go up and blast again this is just to pubertymaxx. Wanna be as safe as possible so I will run HCG my source also sells it for very cheap.

 

[chadbeingmade]

I will use RU and find something for skin if it comes about but blocking DHT is off the table for now.

You can realistically use RU on your skin.

If you are cycling you should realistically blast 500mg for the entire 20weeks. 500mg isn’t a random dosage, it’s the most tolerated dosage before sides become a problem.

 

[repulse]

You can realistically use RU on your skin.

If you are cycling you should realistically blast 500mg for the entire 20weeks. 500mg isn’t a random dosage, it’s the most tolerated dosage before sides become a problem.

I was thinking of starting on 300 and seeing how I react if it's good I'll bump up to like 400-500 for the rest of duration unless I react bad to that dose then I'd obviously lower

 

[zdiaa]

Just cruise on 150-175 per week then go up and blast again this is just to pubertymaxx. Wanna be as safe as possible so I will run HCG my source also sells it for very cheap.

you can desensitize yourself to HCG and HMG etc. there is no need to run it during this unless youre planning on having kids very soon.

your logic with the blast cruise is correct, however going from 150 to 300 is completely negligible if youre looking for any long term outcomes from test.

my advice is save money on the unnecessary bs and run HGH the whole time. especially at this age

 

[slaters]

Your dick is filled with 5ar enzyme. This is why your dick is so sensitive to DHT.

With nandrolone on the otherhand the process is very counter intuitive.
As we all know, testosterone converts to dht which is like 10x stronger in agonizing the androgen receptor which gives you secondary you characteristics, like hairloss and a bigger dick.

But what nandrolone does instead when encountering the 5ar enzyme is convert to DHN which is an extremely weak androgen which clogs up the receptors and just does fuckall.
As a result you basicly get no androgenic signalling which will stop your dick from growing but will also result in less hairloss

I read about the dhn part but he’d still have dht from the test no? Not saying he should add deca but yk

 

[chadbeingmade]

I was thinking of starting on 300 and seeing how I react if it's good I'll bump up to like 400-500 for the rest of duration unless I react bad to that dose then I'd obviously lower

That’s fine.

It will take around 4 weeks to fully saturate so wait till after then to assess and bump dosage.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Said by every person on the planet before they experienced hair loss etc tbh.

Not to mention the inevitable of supraphysiological test and androgen levels which is the evisceration of his elastin which his genetics won’t save him against and cannot be repaired after the fact. It’s all about prevention.

I fully believe roiding is a looksmin without Dut tbh. He should at least be on a topical AA for skin as well if he isn’t going to use Dut.

If hes 16 his dick is still likely to grow. That enough reason not to hop on DUT imo

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

I read about the dhn part but he’d still have dht from the test no? Not saying he should add deca but yk

Yea, im talking about nandrolone monotherapy tbh

Probably fine in conjunction

 

[repulse]

If hes 16 his dick is still likely to grow. That enough reason not to hop on DUT imo

My voice only started changing last year mid 2024 (15yo) so i’m still developing and dick will probably grow

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

My voice only started changing last year mid 2024 (15yo) so i’m still developing and dick will probably grow

Will definitely grow. Hop on roids asap fr nigga.

This shit could ascend you all the way to heaven

 

[repulse]

Will definitely grow. Hop on roids asap fr nigga.

This shit could ascend you all the way to heaven

I will pin today I’ll update you guys in 4-6 months about everything in a new thread

 

[TitusA]

How come

You're only 68kg at 6ft1. You need probably 20kg of muscle (thats assuming you are lean already). Likely you will cut at the end of 24 weeks and find when you actually get lean/drop some water from the excess calories and test you have put on maybe 6kg (most people hugely overestimate the amount of muscle they have/they gain on cycles because they never get legit lean) of actual lean muscle tissue.

I would cruise for 2 years and just bump up my doses overtime then cut at the end. You shouldn't have health work/blood work issues with low testosterone like that unless you have a terrible lifestyle/diet or some kind of genetic predisposition. Get bloodwork at 300mg - 400mg mark and if you are having issues there at your age you probably need lifestyle fixes.

 

[repulse]

You're only 68kg at 6ft1. You need probably 20kg of muscle (thats assuming you are lean already). Likely you will cut at the end of 24 weeks and find when you actually get lean/drop some water from the excess calories and test you have put on maybe 6kg (most people hugely overestimate the amount of muscle they have/they gain on cycles because they never get legit lean) of actual lean muscle tissue.

I would cruise for 2 years and just bump up my doses overtime then cut at the end. You shouldn't have health work/blood work issues with low testosterone like that unless you have a terrible lifestyle/diet or some kind of genetic predisposition. Get bloodwork at 300mg - 400mg mark and if you are having issues there at your age you probably need lifestyle fixes.

My precycle bloods are very good so I doubt cruising at 150mg would kill me but obviously I'll get tests every 3 months while on cruise for now I'll bulk on 300mg then bump up if i don't see sides to 400 or 500 and possibly add in some SARMs or other compounds that weren't listed here.

 

[rc201]

How much do u shorten ur life span with that cycle

 

[TitusA]

My precycle bloods are very good so I doubt cruising at 150mg would kill me but obviously I'll get tests every 3 months while on cruise for now I'll bulk on 300mg then bump up if i don't see sides to 400 or 500 and possibly add in some SARMs or other compounds that weren't listed here.

U will probably notice nothing apart from dose dependant HDL reduction and blood pressure rising a bit above what it is now depending on how high your estrogen gets. Some people even get lucky and HDL isnt effected.

 

[repulse]

U will probably notice nothing apart from dose dependant HDL reduction and blood pressure rising a bit above what it is now depending on how high your estrogen gets. Some people even get lucky and HDL isnt effected.

I'll be using AI but obviously dose will differ if i up or lower my test dosage I'll be using telmisartan and nebivolol too