Ascension is a syringe of Juvederm away (looksmax story + chadlite advice)

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Short background: I'm an OG lookism.net poster between 2015-2018. That website utterly changed my life; I went from a 5/10 depressed awkward virgin to an unironic 9+/10 slayer, with everything that transformation entails. I recently tried to find the lookism website for moneymaxxing, but it's gone for some reason.

My goal here with my first post is to describe my looksmaxxing journey for you future models and billionaires, because I think it'll be very illuminating to a lot of you, especially for young guys feeling analysis paralysis and unsure of their course of action.
I spent my late teens agonising over my subpar looks. I'm 130 IQ, INTJ, probably on the spectrum, so I not only discover redpills very early on, but I can autistically research the fuck out of something if I care enough about it. And I cared about not being ugly.
By age 20 I'd spent hundreds of hours lurking and posting on lookism, researching, looking at before & afters, gazing at photographs of models, talking with users and asking their experiences, and most of all: staring into the mirror and formulating what my subhuman face needs in order to ascend.
I'll list all the things I did later, but by far the most important things I did, and the only procedures I underwent, were a rhinoplasty and jawline+cheekbone fillers, both of which were performed in Germany by two different doctors. Filler pretty much transformed my entire life instantly.

GENETICS
6'0", light olive skin, dark curly 'Greek statue' hair, dark eyes, perfect beard
A lot of you are reading this and thinking "fuck this guy he already had good genetics wtf". Yes, I'm very lucky in many ways. But whatever cards you're dealt with, your face is definitely the most malleable. You can change your looks, no matter if you're a hideous birdface or just a 6.5 who wants to feel like a God. Only difference is the likely extent of procedures required. There are plenty of before & afters on the internet which prove this (however, surgeons keep the best ones only for their consultations; I've seen many and they're insane).
Also, most of you reading this are probably just average or slightly below average looking autists who are intelligent enough to know that looks>everything, and determined to ascend and reach your full potential. In which case it truly is just a few millimetres of filler for most of you.

Height: many of the biggest slayers I've known were good looking manlets with excellent game, so don't be a blackpill loser just because you're short. Height is as much of a drawback as you want it to be.

Ethnicity: not gonna lie this is the most important factor. Not only can it make looksmaxxing more difficult and ineffective, but just the fact that you can inherit really bad genetics. For example, if your background is from very poor Brazilian or South Indian immigrants, then you've probably got terrible genetics. If you're from a very wealthy background, then you've probably inherited good genetics. This isn't so much the case with European people, only to a lesser extent.
Of course, it depends on the individual and where they live. Indians and Orientals will struggle the most anywhere they are. Black guys do much better as they benefit hugely from Western media and hiphop. Again, no matter your race, you can definitely looksmax and do very well. I've known slayers of all races, in fact one of the biggest slayers I know is Indian and he's easily slain more than I have.

BODY
I've always been a ~55kg skeleton but was 66kg at my peak, which doesn't sound big but I looked really good. I've lost and gained weight many times due to exam seasons and the lockdowns.
Whilst I've slayed as a skeleton, it definitely helps to be at least ottermode for your height. If you've ever read cope about "girls don't care about body" or "skinny is in fashion" just disregard it. Lifting is really good for you in many ways, not just looking jacked so you can easily slay, but also building strength and stamina, feeling great, confidence, commanding respect, mental clarity, cognitive function and longevity, structuring your life, fitting better in your clothes, improving posture, etc.

METAMORPHOSIS
This is the most important part as I'll go into everything I did to looksmax, first beginning with the non-invasive things.

Generally: Obviously, if you're not retarded then you should cease smoking, drinking alcohol, consuming any sugar, drug use (especially amphetamines), being stressed and angry all the time, sleeping poorly, eating junk, eating too much/too little, not drinking water. I recommend taking vitamin D3, zinc, magnesium. Those are the 3 essentials for men.

Hair: I have curly (not afro) hair, so I lurked a curly hair subreddit for advice on how to best take care of it. No matter your hair type, you should consider whether chemicals (sulfates, silicones) in your shampoo and conditioner are ruining it. I used shampoo and conditioner recommended in the subreddit as well as following methods on how best to wash my hair, and my hair has been unbelievably gorgeous on many days. I don't shower every day, when I shower I don't always use products, and I never use a blow dryer as it burns the fuck out of your hair and scalp. Nor do I towel dry; just air dry.
Hair style: I used to have hilariously bad hair. My mother would give me an ugly buzzcut once a year, which got uglier as it grew out. I was constantly the butt of jokes in school. The first time I went to a decent barber and asked for a skin fade was at 19 and it was life changing. People instantly commented on me looking much better. Girls who never spoke to me would light up and approach me to ask how I'm doing. I've always maintained a skin fade since then. By the way, tell your barber DO NOT TOUCH THE TEMPLE PEAKS. Some barbers are fucking retarded and will butcher them.

Skin: Don't rub or touch your face, avoid sunlight on your face, if you have clear skin or very light acne then you could exfoliate maximum once a month using a Konjac sponge (don't exfoliate if you have moderate acne; it'll make it worse), eliminate sugar, be careful with your diet, be careful of using any products which can cause irritation or breakouts (styling products for example), and for the love of God never rape your face with a towel.
I had moderate-severe acne in school and in my first year of university. Don't take prescription medication for it unless it's extremely severe or you still have acne in your early-mid 20s. Be patient. In school my problem was very oily skin, which required me to wash my face every morning and night. In university it was the opposite; I had very dry skin, especially in winter, which required moisturisation. Use a NON-COMEDOGENIC cleanser and moisturiser. Wear sunscreen as your moisturiser in the daytime.
I use Cetaphil for cleanser. La Roche Posay 50+ non-tinted sunscreen. I also use Trilogy rosehip oil as moisturiser instead of sunscreen if I'm going out in the evening. Those are the three skin products I use and swear by, that's it. If you have clear skin you don't need to use cleanser every day. By the way, in applying sunscreen/oil, don't rub it across your face. Put small amounts over your face and gently pat it in.
Also for guys with acne + facial hair: STOP USING RAZORS. Especially disposables holy shit those things instantly turn my face into pepperoni pizza. Every man should own a double edge safety razor, but if you have acne then stop clean shaving and use an electric trimmer. This noticeably helped a huge amount.
I stopped consuming dairy during my acne years.
My acne finally went away at 19-20. I've no idea if it went away on it's own or if my skin care and diet helped it. There are other things you should do such as sleeping on a clean pillow/towel every night, but I didn't do that.

Facial hair: Invest in a good Philips electric trimmer with millimetre graded sliding guard. If you rock a beard then experiment with fading the sides.
Stop buying (((Gillette))) and get a double edged safety razor which lasts your whole life. Buy shaving gel and a badger brush, not the canned foam shit. Make sure you're lathered up real good. You need to maintain the boundaries of your beard by clean shaving your cheekbones and upper cheek (but don't butcher your beard!), upper moustache, rear sideburns, and middle-lower neck. Search up some YouTube tutorials if you don't understand what I'm describing (I think alpha m. has a good one). Also, don't fuck up your sideburns.
For guys with thick eyebrows, you can use the safety razor to *very carefully* shave above your eyebrows as well, so you don't have two caterpillars.
Invest in very good tweezers if you have a unibrow. Don't use a razor.
Buy small, fine, curved eyebrow scissors. Brush your eyebrow hair upwards and carefully trim just a little bit. You can also use these scissors to trim your nose hair, and to trim moustache hair that hangs over your upper lip.
All these little things add up to make a HUGE difference and you're fucking insane if you don't do these.

Teeth: Professional teeth whitening (moulded trays done in clinic, with cartriges of gel which I did at home). Highly effective and easy; my teeth used to be yellow, within a few weeks they were dazzlingly white. Even 4 years later people still tell me I have really white teeth.

FASHIONMAXXING
Too much to go into but I just copied and took inspiration from my fashionable friends or famous dudes, YouTubers, Instagrammers. Whatever highly good looking guys are wearing is most likely what's attractive. Don't buy hypebeast shit unless you're a drug dealer, don't buy brands, don't buy clothes with slogans. You don't need to wear super snazzy clothes, just make sure you have high quality, well-fitting basics and a few outfits to wear. ASOS has the best clothes and service hands down. I can make a dedicated response about fashion if someone asks in the replies.

RHINOPLASTY
Underwent at 19 from a very skilled German maxillofacial surgeon, operated on both cartilage and bone. Don't go cheap; it's your fucking face. Recovery was fine, stayed in an airbnb and relaxed for a week. My nose looked wonderful when the bandage was removed, soon afterwards there's swelling which took years to subside and would always fluctuate, however this can be a good thing because it hides the surgery. Be very careful to not touch or hit your nose in the months after the surgery. You could very gently do drainage massages after a few weeks, if your surgeon allows it. My nose looks perfect and harmonious now and it doesn't look operated on at all.

FILLER
Filler is a revolutionary invention in cosmetics. It's gelatinous fucking gold. It's truly incredible stuff and many men and women swear by it, including the female receptionist and male doctor at the clinic I go to. It's quick, cheap, no recovery time, astonishingly effective, lasts for years, with pretty much zero drawbacks or risk of side effects (make sure the doctor is using a blunt tip cannula).
I went to another highly skilled German doctor who specialises in male aesthetics, first time I went being when I was 20, many months after the rhinoplasty and when my nose was looking great.
He evaluated my face for maybe 5-10 minutes and knew exactly how much and where to inject. I got a lot of it in my gonial angle, sides of chin, and cheekbones. I didn't get it infraorbitally; the doctor advised against it for reasons I don't remember, but I'm glad I didn't.
Yes, attractive cheek hollows are formed from the tenting effect of cheekbones and jawline, and filler can absolutely create them. I didn't have them before I got filler, now I do.
The result looked absolutely amazing even in the office, however you're a bit swollen in the first few days, and it might take a week for residual swelling to completely subside. It's hard to describe how it feels the first time you look in the mirror in the doctors office right after getting injected. For a moment I didn't recognise myself. Then, I realised that I look better than I could ever have imagined.
You should avoid touching the filler in the first weeks, and you should sleep on your back. But if you gently feel it in the bony areas like ramus or cheekbones, the filler feels hard just like bone. In muscular areas like the masseter it feels more like muscle.
Yes, it does decrease a little bit after 8-10 months, but it's only noticeable if you're obsessively evaluating it in the mirror like an autist. But for sure, the first 6 months are the most amazing.
Also my appearance does somewhat change depending on time of day, if I've just shaved (due to the massaging of the trimmer or razor), how hydrated I am, if I've exercised, etc.
It's been 3 years since I last had filler and I still look excellent and I receive plenty of compliments when I'm scrubbed up and well dressed.

FINANCES
Rhinoplasty cost 5k Euro at the time, filler around 2.5k Euro each visit (it's a lot of cartridges). Worth every penny. Whatever procedures you need, get your fucking money up and do it. You only get one life, why be a sub8 lmao.
Btw don't do the self-injecting meme, that's stupid.

YOU WILL GET BORED OF ATTENTION AND COMPLIMENTS
You only realise how far you've climbed when you're at the mountain top. In my looksmaxxing years I thought looks are the secret of life, and in many ways it is, but at the same time the obsessive pimping and preening is highly superficial and feminine in retrospect. I used to love compliments, now I hate them. It takes a few years but the initial excitement fades away. Or maybe I just need another filler appointment...
But God damn, THAT GLOW UP. Can't describe it, just feelsgoodman. Sometimes I felt spontaneous euphoria. It's insane to go from invisible to suddenly receiving a LOT of positive attention. Sometimes it was overwhelming, like when women would approach me in clubs and instantly start making out with me, or when I'd be at a club with a girl and another girl would plead with me to leave them and go home with her instead, or when women in public would just stare at me. You feel liberated. You feel adored. Dating is ez mode. Socialising is ez mode. Charm is ez mode. Friends you haven't seen for a while will ask "how did you get so hot??". Girls will gossip and conspire with each other to hook up with you.

MOST OF YOU DON'T NEED MAXILLOFACIAL SURGERY OR IMPLANTS LMAO
When I was 19 I had a consultation with the surgeon in Germany (same one who did my rhino) for a zygomatic sandwich osteotomy and chin wing, and another consultation in London for PEEK infraorbital implants. It was so fucking dumb and a waste of time and money.
Don't be retarded - just get filler, trust me.

IF YOU'RE DEFORMED (NOT DELUSIONAL) THEN YOU MAY NEED MAXFAC SURGERY, NO WAY AROUND IT
Recessed chins, underbites, overbites, etc. are unfortunately common in the population nowadays. But before getting surgery, make sure you visit a few surgeons and have gotten ratings from dozens of people (preferably actual doctors or dentists and not just random autists).

Also a word on meme surgeries like philtrum surgery, canthal surgery, facelifts, etc: be very, very careful with this shit. You can fuck your shit up quite badly. If you're unironically thinking about these surgeries then consider that you actually look fine you're just autistic and spending too much time on looksmaxxing forums. I know I've considered philtrum surgery and even a fucking hair transplant (at age 20) even though I actually looked completely fine and wasn't norwooding AT ALL. I was delusional.
Never get surgery for removing buccal fat pad.

WOMEN CAN BE A WASTE OF TIME
I spent a good 2-3 years of my life (ages 19-21) dedicated to dating, improving my game, being socially competent... I spent hundreds of hours watching YouTube videos like RSD, AMS strategy, Natural Lifestyles, alpha m., Based Zeus...
In the summer of 2020 I realised that money actually matters in life, and so I decided to learn about economics and finance. Then, I discovered crypto. I felt fucking stupid for having spent so much time chasing pussy after I saw that I'd just missed literally the best buying opportunity of a lifetime. I could be a retired millionaire today.
Don't get me wrong, a lot of what I learned about seduction and social skills was absolutely necessary, but it's one of those paths that can be never ending. Don't become one of those guys in their mid 30s who works a shit job, lives in a flatshare, and dedicates his life to sleeping with an average girl maybe a couple of times a year.
At the same time, don't be a dude who spends his youth obsessively chasing money, muh career, muh degree, and missing out on your prime years.
It can sometimes be difficult to do both, but if you can keep a good balance then you're golden.

LOOKSMAXXING IS NEVER A WASTE OF TIME
Ascend or die trying. But you'll likely find other problems to autistically tunnel vision on, both in your life and in the world.
 
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read every word 😍
 
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Bookmarked & Bumped. :love:
 
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Will read every word, and apply it to my life strenuously. Thank you brother.
 
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how much % filler last from your last injection?
 
how much % filler last from your last injection?
It fluctuates, mostly depending on if and when I've shaved my beard. When I'm clean shaven sometimes 80%. When I haven't shaved in weeks then it looks maybe 70% as good. I'd say that's the biggest difference over time; early on I'd look GODLY with a full beard, but nowadays I look noticeably more handsome clean shaven.
So on average, maybe 75% lasts to now. To date I've had three filler appointments, last one being 3 years ago. It lasts longer after each appointment.
 
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its crazy cuz many doctors claims that fillers last 6-18 months, but 70% after 3 years I will take anytime :)
 
its crazy cuz many doctors claims that fillers last 6-18 months, but 70% after 3 years I will take anytime :)
I'm very sedentary now and haven't been going to the gym or sports at all for the past two years. If I were doing those, as I was before, then I'd likely have a bit less filler remaining because exercise increases your metabolic rate.

The first time I got the filler (2018) it looked great at first but a lot of it went away within a few weeks for some reason, and it was a bit asymmetrical. I knew it could be better so I went back to the doctor maybe 2 months later and got some more. Then it looked utterly perfect. How well the doctor injects, and how much is injected, are obviously key factors in how long it'll last.
A year afterwards I went for the third appointment so I could be 10/10 again before semester started. Doctor injected it perfectly as before. Still looks great 3 years later.

So yeah you can certainly expect to get at least 12-18 months in my experience. If you're already decent looking you won't need to go as often.

btw I forgot to mention in the OP, the doctor told me to avoid sunlight after getting the filler.
 
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I'm very sedentary now and haven't been going to the gym or sports at all for the past two years. If I were doing those, as I was before, then I'd likely have a bit less filler remaining because exercise increases your metabolic rate.

The first time I got the filler (2018) it looked great at first but a lot of it went away within a few weeks for some reason, and it was a bit asymmetrical. I knew it could be better so I went back to the doctor maybe 2 months later and got some more. Then it looked utterly perfect. How well the doctor injects, and how much is injected, are obviously key factors in how long it'll last.
A year afterwards I went for the third appointment so I could be 10/10 again before semester started. Doctor injected it perfectly as before. Still looks great 3 years later.

So yeah you can certainly expect to get at least 12-18 months in my experience. If you're already decent looking you won't need to go as often.

btw I forgot to mention in the OP, the doctor told me to avoid sunlight after getting the filler.
Slaycount before and after?
 
Slaycount before and after?
0 -> double digits, maybe 10-12. all happened within two years. haven't dated since summer 2020, was too busy with finals, covid psyop, and shitcoin casino
 
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0 -> double digits, maybe 10-12. all happened within two years. haven't dated since summer 2020, was too busy with finals, covid psyop, and shitcoin casino
Congratulations, did your finals go well?
 
Did you get your results?
I had oral exams, results were immediate. top grades in my class ... thank you big pharma :feelsokman::redpill::feelsez::bluepill:
However, I think the amount of amphetamines I took + resulting severe calorie deficit + as well as the immense stress have all caused some noticeable hair thinning and recession. perhaps it's "mature hairline" (probably cope). maybe it's fucking over. we'll see by next year.
 
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I had oral exams, results were immediate. top grades in my class ... thank you big pharma :feelsokman::redpill::feelsez::bluepill:
However, I think the amount of amphetamines I took + resulting severe calorie deficit + as well as the immense stress have all caused some noticeable hair thinning and recession. perhaps it's "mature hairline" (probably cope). maybe it's fucking over. we'll see by next year.
Do you think you can recover?
 
Short background: I'm an OG lookism.net poster between 2015-2018. That website utterly changed my life; I went from a 5/10 depressed awkward virgin to an unironic 9+/10 slayer, with everything that transformation entails. I recently tried to find the lookism website for moneymaxxing, but it's gone for some reason.

My goal here with my first post is to describe my looksmaxxing journey for you future models and billionaires, because I think it'll be very illuminating to a lot of you, especially for young guys feeling analysis paralysis and unsure of their course of action.
I spent my late teens agonising over my subpar looks. I'm 130 IQ, INTJ, probably on the spectrum, so I not only discover redpills very early on, but I can autistically research the fuck out of something if I care enough about it. And I cared about not being ugly.
By age 20 I'd spent hundreds of hours lurking and posting on lookism, researching, looking at before & afters, gazing at photographs of models, talking with users and asking their experiences, and most of all: staring into the mirror and formulating what my subhuman face needs in order to ascend.
I'll list all the things I did later, but by far the most important things I did, and the only procedures I underwent, were a rhinoplasty and jawline+cheekbone fillers, both of which were performed in Germany by two different doctors. Filler pretty much transformed my entire life instantly.

GENETICS
6'0", light olive skin, dark curly 'Greek statue' hair, dark eyes, perfect beard
A lot of you are reading this and thinking "fuck this guy he already had good genetics wtf". Yes, I'm very lucky in many ways. But whatever cards you're dealt with, your face is definitely the most malleable. You can change your looks, no matter if you're a hideous birdface or just a 6.5 who wants to feel like a God. Only difference is the likely extent of procedures required. There are plenty of before & afters on the internet which prove this (however, surgeons keep the best ones only for their consultations; I've seen many and they're insane).
Also, most of you reading this are probably just average or slightly below average looking autists who are intelligent enough to know that looks>everything, and determined to ascend and reach your full potential. In which case it truly is just a few millimetres of filler for most of you.

Height: many of the biggest slayers I've known were good looking manlets with excellent game, so don't be a blackpill loser just because you're short. Height is as much of a drawback as you want it to be.

Ethnicity: not gonna lie this is the most important factor. Not only can it make looksmaxxing more difficult and ineffective, but just the fact that you can inherit really bad genetics. For example, if your background is from very poor Brazilian or South Indian immigrants, then you've probably got terrible genetics. If you're from a very wealthy background, then you've probably inherited good genetics. This isn't so much the case with European people, only to a lesser extent.
Of course, it depends on the individual and where they live. Indians and Orientals will struggle the most anywhere they are. Black guys do much better as they benefit hugely from Western media and hiphop. Again, no matter your race, you can definitely looksmax and do very well. I've known slayers of all races, in fact one of the biggest slayers I know is Indian and he's easily slain more than I have.

BODY
I've always been a ~55kg skeleton but was 66kg at my peak, which doesn't sound big but I looked really good. I've lost and gained weight many times due to exam seasons and the lockdowns.
Whilst I've slayed as a skeleton, it definitely helps to be at least ottermode for your height. If you've ever read cope about "girls don't care about body" or "skinny is in fashion" just disregard it. Lifting is really good for you in many ways, not just looking jacked so you can easily slay, but also building strength and stamina, feeling great, confidence, commanding respect, mental clarity, cognitive function and longevity, structuring your life, fitting better in your clothes, improving posture, etc.

METAMORPHOSIS
This is the most important part as I'll go into everything I did to looksmax, first beginning with the non-invasive things.

Generally: Obviously, if you're not retarded then you should cease smoking, drinking alcohol, consuming any sugar, drug use (especially amphetamines), being stressed and angry all the time, sleeping poorly, eating junk, eating too much/too little, not drinking water. I recommend taking vitamin D3, zinc, magnesium. Those are the 3 essentials for men.

Hair: I have curly (not afro) hair, so I lurked a curly hair subreddit for advice on how to best take care of it. No matter your hair type, you should consider whether chemicals (sulfates, silicones) in your shampoo and conditioner are ruining it. I used shampoo and conditioner recommended in the subreddit as well as following methods on how best to wash my hair, and my hair has been unbelievably gorgeous on many days. I don't shower every day, when I shower I don't always use products, and I never use a blow dryer as it burns the fuck out of your hair and scalp. Nor do I towel dry; just air dry.
Hair style: I used to have hilariously bad hair. My mother would give me an ugly buzzcut once a year, which got uglier as it grew out. I was constantly the butt of jokes in school. The first time I went to a decent barber and asked for a skin fade was at 19 and it was life changing. People instantly commented on me looking much better. Girls who never spoke to me would light up and approach me to ask how I'm doing. I've always maintained a skin fade since then. By the way, tell your barber DO NOT TOUCH THE TEMPLE PEAKS. Some barbers are fucking retarded and will butcher them.

Skin: Don't rub or touch your face, avoid sunlight on your face, if you have clear skin or very light acne then you could exfoliate maximum once a month using a Konjac sponge (don't exfoliate if you have moderate acne; it'll make it worse), eliminate sugar, be careful with your diet, be careful of using any products which can cause irritation or breakouts (styling products for example), and for the love of God never rape your face with a towel.
I had moderate-severe acne in school and in my first year of university. Don't take prescription medication for it unless it's extremely severe or you still have acne in your early-mid 20s. Be patient. In school my problem was very oily skin, which required me to wash my face every morning and night. In university it was the opposite; I had very dry skin, especially in winter, which required moisturisation. Use a NON-COMEDOGENIC cleanser and moisturiser. Wear sunscreen as your moisturiser in the daytime.
I use Cetaphil for cleanser. La Roche Posay 50+ non-tinted sunscreen. I also use Trilogy rosehip oil as moisturiser instead of sunscreen if I'm going out in the evening. Those are the three skin products I use and swear by, that's it. If you have clear skin you don't need to use cleanser every day. By the way, in applying sunscreen/oil, don't rub it across your face. Put small amounts over your face and gently pat it in.
Also for guys with acne + facial hair: STOP USING RAZORS. Especially disposables holy shit those things instantly turn my face into pepperoni pizza. Every man should own a double edge safety razor, but if you have acne then stop clean shaving and use an electric trimmer. This noticeably helped a huge amount.
I stopped consuming dairy during my acne years.
My acne finally went away at 19-20. I've no idea if it went away on it's own or if my skin care and diet helped it. There are other things you should do such as sleeping on a clean pillow/towel every night, but I didn't do that.

Facial hair: Invest in a good Philips electric trimmer with millimetre graded sliding guard. If you rock a beard then experiment with fading the sides.
Stop buying (((Gillette))) and get a double edged safety razor which lasts your whole life. Buy shaving gel and a badger brush, not the canned foam shit. Make sure you're lathered up real good. You need to maintain the boundaries of your beard by clean shaving your cheekbones and upper cheek (but don't butcher your beard!), upper moustache, rear sideburns, and middle-lower neck. Search up some YouTube tutorials if you don't understand what I'm describing (I think alpha m. has a good one). Also, don't fuck up your sideburns.
For guys with thick eyebrows, you can use the safety razor to *very carefully* shave above your eyebrows as well, so you don't have two caterpillars.
Invest in very good tweezers if you have a unibrow. Don't use a razor.
Buy small, fine, curved eyebrow scissors. Brush your eyebrow hair upwards and carefully trim just a little bit. You can also use these scissors to trim your nose hair, and to trim moustache hair that hangs over your upper lip.
All these little things add up to make a HUGE difference and you're fucking insane if you don't do these.

Teeth: Professional teeth whitening (moulded trays done in clinic, with cartriges of gel which I did at home). Highly effective and easy; my teeth used to be yellow, within a few weeks they were dazzlingly white. Even 4 years later people still tell me I have really white teeth.

FASHIONMAXXING
Too much to go into but I just copied and took inspiration from my fashionable friends or famous dudes, YouTubers, Instagrammers. Whatever highly good looking guys are wearing is most likely what's attractive. Don't buy hypebeast shit unless you're a drug dealer, don't buy brands, don't buy clothes with slogans. You don't need to wear super snazzy clothes, just make sure you have high quality, well-fitting basics and a few outfits to wear. ASOS has the best clothes and service hands down. I can make a dedicated response about fashion if someone asks in the replies.

RHINOPLASTY
Underwent at 19 from a very skilled German maxillofacial surgeon, operated on both cartilage and bone. Don't go cheap; it's your fucking face. Recovery was fine, stayed in an airbnb and relaxed for a week. My nose looked wonderful when the bandage was removed, soon afterwards there's swelling which took years to subside and would always fluctuate, however this can be a good thing because it hides the surgery. Be very careful to not touch or hit your nose in the months after the surgery. You could very gently do drainage massages after a few weeks, if your surgeon allows it. My nose looks perfect and harmonious now and it doesn't look operated on at all.

FILLER
Filler is a revolutionary invention in cosmetics. It's gelatinous fucking gold. It's truly incredible stuff and many men and women swear by it, including the female receptionist and male doctor at the clinic I go to. It's quick, cheap, no recovery time, astonishingly effective, lasts for years, with pretty much zero drawbacks or risk of side effects (make sure the doctor is using a blunt tip cannula).
I went to another highly skilled German doctor who specialises in male aesthetics, first time I went being when I was 20, many months after the rhinoplasty and when my nose was looking great.
He evaluated my face for maybe 5-10 minutes and knew exactly how much and where to inject. I got a lot of it in my gonial angle, sides of chin, and cheekbones. I didn't get it infraorbitally; the doctor advised against it for reasons I don't remember, but I'm glad I didn't.
Yes, attractive cheek hollows are formed from the tenting effect of cheekbones and jawline, and filler can absolutely create them. I didn't have them before I got filler, now I do.
The result looked absolutely amazing even in the office, however you're a bit swollen in the first few days, and it might take a week for residual swelling to completely subside. It's hard to describe how it feels the first time you look in the mirror in the doctors office right after getting injected. For a moment I didn't recognise myself. Then, I realised that I look better than I could ever have imagined.
You should avoid touching the filler in the first weeks, and you should sleep on your back. But if you gently feel it in the bony areas like ramus or cheekbones, the filler feels hard just like bone. In muscular areas like the masseter it feels more like muscle.
Yes, it does decrease a little bit after 8-10 months, but it's only noticeable if you're obsessively evaluating it in the mirror like an autist. But for sure, the first 6 months are the most amazing.
Also my appearance does somewhat change depending on time of day, if I've just shaved (due to the massaging of the trimmer or razor), how hydrated I am, if I've exercised, etc.
It's been 3 years since I last had filler and I still look excellent and I receive plenty of compliments when I'm scrubbed up and well dressed.

FINANCES
Rhinoplasty cost 5k Euro at the time, filler around 2.5k Euro each visit (it's a lot of cartridges). Worth every penny. Whatever procedures you need, get your fucking money up and do it. You only get one life, why be a sub8 lmao.
Btw don't do the self-injecting meme, that's stupid.

YOU WILL GET BORED OF ATTENTION AND COMPLIMENTS
You only realise how far you've climbed when you're at the mountain top. In my looksmaxxing years I thought looks are the secret of life, and in many ways it is, but at the same time the obsessive pimping and preening is highly superficial and feminine in retrospect. I used to love compliments, now I hate them. It takes a few years but the initial excitement fades away. Or maybe I just need another filler appointment...
But God damn, THAT GLOW UP. Can't describe it, just feelsgoodman. Sometimes I felt spontaneous euphoria. It's insane to go from invisible to suddenly receiving a LOT of positive attention. Sometimes it was overwhelming, like when women would approach me in clubs and instantly start making out with me, or when I'd be at a club with a girl and another girl would plead with me to leave them and go home with her instead, or when women in public would just stare at me. You feel liberated. You feel adored. Dating is ez mode. Socialising is ez mode. Charm is ez mode. Friends you haven't seen for a while will ask "how did you get so hot??". Girls will gossip and conspire with each other to hook up with you.

MOST OF YOU DON'T NEED MAXILLOFACIAL SURGERY OR IMPLANTS LMAO
When I was 19 I had a consultation with the surgeon in Germany (same one who did my rhino) for a zygomatic sandwich osteotomy and chin wing, and another consultation in London for PEEK infraorbital implants. It was so fucking dumb and a waste of time and money.
Don't be retarded - just get filler, trust me.

IF YOU'RE DEFORMED (NOT DELUSIONAL) THEN YOU MAY NEED MAXFAC SURGERY, NO WAY AROUND IT
Recessed chins, underbites, overbites, etc. are unfortunately common in the population nowadays. But before getting surgery, make sure you visit a few surgeons and have gotten ratings from dozens of people (preferably actual doctors or dentists and not just random autists).

Also a word on meme surgeries like philtrum surgery, canthal surgery, facelifts, etc: be very, very careful with this shit. You can fuck your shit up quite badly. If you're unironically thinking about these surgeries then consider that you actually look fine you're just autistic and spending too much time on looksmaxxing forums. I know I've considered philtrum surgery and even a fucking hair transplant (at age 20) even though I actually looked completely fine and wasn't norwooding AT ALL. I was delusional.
Never get surgery for removing buccal fat pad.

WOMEN CAN BE A WASTE OF TIME
I spent a good 2-3 years of my life (ages 19-21) dedicated to dating, improving my game, being socially competent... I spent hundreds of hours watching YouTube videos like RSD, AMS strategy, Natural Lifestyles, alpha m., Based Zeus...
In the summer of 2020 I realised that money actually matters in life, and so I decided to learn about economics and finance. Then, I discovered crypto. I felt fucking stupid for having spent so much time chasing pussy after I saw that I'd just missed literally the best buying opportunity of a lifetime. I could be a retired millionaire today.
Don't get me wrong, a lot of what I learned about seduction and social skills was absolutely necessary, but it's one of those paths that can be never ending. Don't become one of those guys in their mid 30s who works a shit job, lives in a flatshare, and dedicates his life to sleeping with an average girl maybe a couple of times a year.
At the same time, don't be a dude who spends his youth obsessively chasing money, muh career, muh degree, and missing out on your prime years.
It can sometimes be difficult to do both, but if you can keep a good balance then you're golden.

LOOKSMAXXING IS NEVER A WASTE OF TIME
Ascend or die trying. But you'll likely find other problems to autistically tunnel vision on, both in your life and in the world.
pls respond to dm brah
 
That was a good read.
How old are you now?

Can you elaborate on how the PEEK infraorbital implants were a waste of time?

To me, implants are a better long term solution than fillers simply due to ongoing cost.

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I’ve got a chance to do a nose filler for cheap, I only need a very small change on my nose bridge I want to make it straight. They said the HA filler they use is Restylane, do you know it? Its worth it?

Also, never knew fillers lasted that long, I always heard doctors said it lasts 6-12 months max.
 
Short background: I'm an OG lookism.net poster between 2015-2018. That website utterly changed my life; I went from a 5/10 depressed awkward virgin to an unironic 9+/10 slayer, with everything that transformation entails. I recently tried to find the lookism website for moneymaxxing, but it's gone for some reason.

My goal here with my first post is to describe my looksmaxxing journey for you future models and billionaires, because I think it'll be very illuminating to a lot of you, especially for young guys feeling analysis paralysis and unsure of their course of action.
I spent my late teens agonising over my subpar looks. I'm 130 IQ, INTJ, probably on the spectrum, so I not only discover redpills very early on, but I can autistically research the fuck out of something if I care enough about it. And I cared about not being ugly.
By age 20 I'd spent hundreds of hours lurking and posting on lookism, researching, looking at before & afters, gazing at photographs of models, talking with users and asking their experiences, and most of all: staring into the mirror and formulating what my subhuman face needs in order to ascend.
I'll list all the things I did later, but by far the most important things I did, and the only procedures I underwent, were a rhinoplasty and jawline+cheekbone fillers, both of which were performed in Germany by two different doctors. Filler pretty much transformed my entire life instantly.

GENETICS
6'0", light olive skin, dark curly 'Greek statue' hair, dark eyes, perfect beard
A lot of you are reading this and thinking "fuck this guy he already had good genetics wtf". Yes, I'm very lucky in many ways. But whatever cards you're dealt with, your face is definitely the most malleable. You can change your looks, no matter if you're a hideous birdface or just a 6.5 who wants to feel like a God. Only difference is the likely extent of procedures required. There are plenty of before & afters on the internet which prove this (however, surgeons keep the best ones only for their consultations; I've seen many and they're insane).
Also, most of you reading this are probably just average or slightly below average looking autists who are intelligent enough to know that looks>everything, and determined to ascend and reach your full potential. In which case it truly is just a few millimetres of filler for most of you.

Height: many of the biggest slayers I've known were good looking manlets with excellent game, so don't be a blackpill loser just because you're short. Height is as much of a drawback as you want it to be.

Ethnicity: not gonna lie this is the most important factor. Not only can it make looksmaxxing more difficult and ineffective, but just the fact that you can inherit really bad genetics. For example, if your background is from very poor Brazilian or South Indian immigrants, then you've probably got terrible genetics. If you're from a very wealthy background, then you've probably inherited good genetics. This isn't so much the case with European people, only to a lesser extent.
Of course, it depends on the individual and where they live. Indians and Orientals will struggle the most anywhere they are. Black guys do much better as they benefit hugely from Western media and hiphop. Again, no matter your race, you can definitely looksmax and do very well. I've known slayers of all races, in fact one of the biggest slayers I know is Indian and he's easily slain more than I have.

BODY
I've always been a ~55kg skeleton but was 66kg at my peak, which doesn't sound big but I looked really good. I've lost and gained weight many times due to exam seasons and the lockdowns.
Whilst I've slayed as a skeleton, it definitely helps to be at least ottermode for your height. If you've ever read cope about "girls don't care about body" or "skinny is in fashion" just disregard it. Lifting is really good for you in many ways, not just looking jacked so you can easily slay, but also building strength and stamina, feeling great, confidence, commanding respect, mental clarity, cognitive function and longevity, structuring your life, fitting better in your clothes, improving posture, etc.

METAMORPHOSIS
This is the most important part as I'll go into everything I did to looksmax, first beginning with the non-invasive things.

Generally: Obviously, if you're not retarded then you should cease smoking, drinking alcohol, consuming any sugar, drug use (especially amphetamines), being stressed and angry all the time, sleeping poorly, eating junk, eating too much/too little, not drinking water. I recommend taking vitamin D3, zinc, magnesium. Those are the 3 essentials for men.

Hair: I have curly (not afro) hair, so I lurked a curly hair subreddit for advice on how to best take care of it. No matter your hair type, you should consider whether chemicals (sulfates, silicones) in your shampoo and conditioner are ruining it. I used shampoo and conditioner recommended in the subreddit as well as following methods on how best to wash my hair, and my hair has been unbelievably gorgeous on many days. I don't shower every day, when I shower I don't always use products, and I never use a blow dryer as it burns the fuck out of your hair and scalp. Nor do I towel dry; just air dry.
Hair style: I used to have hilariously bad hair. My mother would give me an ugly buzzcut once a year, which got uglier as it grew out. I was constantly the butt of jokes in school. The first time I went to a decent barber and asked for a skin fade was at 19 and it was life changing. People instantly commented on me looking much better. Girls who never spoke to me would light up and approach me to ask how I'm doing. I've always maintained a skin fade since then. By the way, tell your barber DO NOT TOUCH THE TEMPLE PEAKS. Some barbers are fucking retarded and will butcher them.

Skin: Don't rub or touch your face, avoid sunlight on your face, if you have clear skin or very light acne then you could exfoliate maximum once a month using a Konjac sponge (don't exfoliate if you have moderate acne; it'll make it worse), eliminate sugar, be careful with your diet, be careful of using any products which can cause irritation or breakouts (styling products for example), and for the love of God never rape your face with a towel.
I had moderate-severe acne in school and in my first year of university. Don't take prescription medication for it unless it's extremely severe or you still have acne in your early-mid 20s. Be patient. In school my problem was very oily skin, which required me to wash my face every morning and night. In university it was the opposite; I had very dry skin, especially in winter, which required moisturisation. Use a NON-COMEDOGENIC cleanser and moisturiser. Wear sunscreen as your moisturiser in the daytime.
I use Cetaphil for cleanser. La Roche Posay 50+ non-tinted sunscreen. I also use Trilogy rosehip oil as moisturiser instead of sunscreen if I'm going out in the evening. Those are the three skin products I use and swear by, that's it. If you have clear skin you don't need to use cleanser every day. By the way, in applying sunscreen/oil, don't rub it across your face. Put small amounts over your face and gently pat it in.
Also for guys with acne + facial hair: STOP USING RAZORS. Especially disposables holy shit those things instantly turn my face into pepperoni pizza. Every man should own a double edge safety razor, but if you have acne then stop clean shaving and use an electric trimmer. This noticeably helped a huge amount.
I stopped consuming dairy during my acne years.
My acne finally went away at 19-20. I've no idea if it went away on it's own or if my skin care and diet helped it. There are other things you should do such as sleeping on a clean pillow/towel every night, but I didn't do that.

Facial hair: Invest in a good Philips electric trimmer with millimetre graded sliding guard. If you rock a beard then experiment with fading the sides.
Stop buying (((Gillette))) and get a double edged safety razor which lasts your whole life. Buy shaving gel and a badger brush, not the canned foam shit. Make sure you're lathered up real good. You need to maintain the boundaries of your beard by clean shaving your cheekbones and upper cheek (but don't butcher your beard!), upper moustache, rear sideburns, and middle-lower neck. Search up some YouTube tutorials if you don't understand what I'm describing (I think alpha m. has a good one). Also, don't fuck up your sideburns.
For guys with thick eyebrows, you can use the safety razor to *very carefully* shave above your eyebrows as well, so you don't have two caterpillars.
Invest in very good tweezers if you have a unibrow. Don't use a razor.
Buy small, fine, curved eyebrow scissors. Brush your eyebrow hair upwards and carefully trim just a little bit. You can also use these scissors to trim your nose hair, and to trim moustache hair that hangs over your upper lip.
All these little things add up to make a HUGE difference and you're fucking insane if you don't do these.

Teeth: Professional teeth whitening (moulded trays done in clinic, with cartriges of gel which I did at home). Highly effective and easy; my teeth used to be yellow, within a few weeks they were dazzlingly white. Even 4 years later people still tell me I have really white teeth.

FASHIONMAXXING
Too much to go into but I just copied and took inspiration from my fashionable friends or famous dudes, YouTubers, Instagrammers. Whatever highly good looking guys are wearing is most likely what's attractive. Don't buy hypebeast shit unless you're a drug dealer, don't buy brands, don't buy clothes with slogans. You don't need to wear super snazzy clothes, just make sure you have high quality, well-fitting basics and a few outfits to wear. ASOS has the best clothes and service hands down. I can make a dedicated response about fashion if someone asks in the replies.

RHINOPLASTY
Underwent at 19 from a very skilled German maxillofacial surgeon, operated on both cartilage and bone. Don't go cheap; it's your fucking face. Recovery was fine, stayed in an airbnb and relaxed for a week. My nose looked wonderful when the bandage was removed, soon afterwards there's swelling which took years to subside and would always fluctuate, however this can be a good thing because it hides the surgery. Be very careful to not touch or hit your nose in the months after the surgery. You could very gently do drainage massages after a few weeks, if your surgeon allows it. My nose looks perfect and harmonious now and it doesn't look operated on at all.

FILLER
Filler is a revolutionary invention in cosmetics. It's gelatinous fucking gold. It's truly incredible stuff and many men and women swear by it, including the female receptionist and male doctor at the clinic I go to. It's quick, cheap, no recovery time, astonishingly effective, lasts for years, with pretty much zero drawbacks or risk of side effects (make sure the doctor is using a blunt tip cannula).
I went to another highly skilled German doctor who specialises in male aesthetics, first time I went being when I was 20, many months after the rhinoplasty and when my nose was looking great.
He evaluated my face for maybe 5-10 minutes and knew exactly how much and where to inject. I got a lot of it in my gonial angle, sides of chin, and cheekbones. I didn't get it infraorbitally; the doctor advised against it for reasons I don't remember, but I'm glad I didn't.
Yes, attractive cheek hollows are formed from the tenting effect of cheekbones and jawline, and filler can absolutely create them. I didn't have them before I got filler, now I do.
The result looked absolutely amazing even in the office, however you're a bit swollen in the first few days, and it might take a week for residual swelling to completely subside. It's hard to describe how it feels the first time you look in the mirror in the doctors office right after getting injected. For a moment I didn't recognise myself. Then, I realised that I look better than I could ever have imagined.
You should avoid touching the filler in the first weeks, and you should sleep on your back. But if you gently feel it in the bony areas like ramus or cheekbones, the filler feels hard just like bone. In muscular areas like the masseter it feels more like muscle.
Yes, it does decrease a little bit after 8-10 months, but it's only noticeable if you're obsessively evaluating it in the mirror like an autist. But for sure, the first 6 months are the most amazing.
Also my appearance does somewhat change depending on time of day, if I've just shaved (due to the massaging of the trimmer or razor), how hydrated I am, if I've exercised, etc.
It's been 3 years since I last had filler and I still look excellent and I receive plenty of compliments when I'm scrubbed up and well dressed.

FINANCES
Rhinoplasty cost 5k Euro at the time, filler around 2.5k Euro each visit (it's a lot of cartridges). Worth every penny. Whatever procedures you need, get your fucking money up and do it. You only get one life, why be a sub8 lmao.
Btw don't do the self-injecting meme, that's stupid.

YOU WILL GET BORED OF ATTENTION AND COMPLIMENTS
You only realise how far you've climbed when you're at the mountain top. In my looksmaxxing years I thought looks are the secret of life, and in many ways it is, but at the same time the obsessive pimping and preening is highly superficial and feminine in retrospect. I used to love compliments, now I hate them. It takes a few years but the initial excitement fades away. Or maybe I just need another filler appointment...
But God damn, THAT GLOW UP. Can't describe it, just feelsgoodman. Sometimes I felt spontaneous euphoria. It's insane to go from invisible to suddenly receiving a LOT of positive attention. Sometimes it was overwhelming, like when women would approach me in clubs and instantly start making out with me, or when I'd be at a club with a girl and another girl would plead with me to leave them and go home with her instead, or when women in public would just stare at me. You feel liberated. You feel adored. Dating is ez mode. Socialising is ez mode. Charm is ez mode. Friends you haven't seen for a while will ask "how did you get so hot??". Girls will gossip and conspire with each other to hook up with you.

MOST OF YOU DON'T NEED MAXILLOFACIAL SURGERY OR IMPLANTS LMAO
When I was 19 I had a consultation with the surgeon in Germany (same one who did my rhino) for a zygomatic sandwich osteotomy and chin wing, and another consultation in London for PEEK infraorbital implants. It was so fucking dumb and a waste of time and money.
Don't be retarded - just get filler, trust me.

IF YOU'RE DEFORMED (NOT DELUSIONAL) THEN YOU MAY NEED MAXFAC SURGERY, NO WAY AROUND IT
Recessed chins, underbites, overbites, etc. are unfortunately common in the population nowadays. But before getting surgery, make sure you visit a few surgeons and have gotten ratings from dozens of people (preferably actual doctors or dentists and not just random autists).

Also a word on meme surgeries like philtrum surgery, canthal surgery, facelifts, etc: be very, very careful with this shit. You can fuck your shit up quite badly. If you're unironically thinking about these surgeries then consider that you actually look fine you're just autistic and spending too much time on looksmaxxing forums. I know I've considered philtrum surgery and even a fucking hair transplant (at age 20) even though I actually looked completely fine and wasn't norwooding AT ALL. I was delusional.
Never get surgery for removing buccal fat pad.

WOMEN CAN BE A WASTE OF TIME
I spent a good 2-3 years of my life (ages 19-21) dedicated to dating, improving my game, being socially competent... I spent hundreds of hours watching YouTube videos like RSD, AMS strategy, Natural Lifestyles, alpha m., Based Zeus...
In the summer of 2020 I realised that money actually matters in life, and so I decided to learn about economics and finance. Then, I discovered crypto. I felt fucking stupid for having spent so much time chasing pussy after I saw that I'd just missed literally the best buying opportunity of a lifetime. I could be a retired millionaire today.
Don't get me wrong, a lot of what I learned about seduction and social skills was absolutely necessary, but it's one of those paths that can be never ending. Don't become one of those guys in their mid 30s who works a shit job, lives in a flatshare, and dedicates his life to sleeping with an average girl maybe a couple of times a year.
At the same time, don't be a dude who spends his youth obsessively chasing money, muh career, muh degree, and missing out on your prime years.
It can sometimes be difficult to do both, but if you can keep a good balance then you're golden.

LOOKSMAXXING IS NEVER A WASTE OF TIME
Ascend or die trying. But you'll likely find other problems to autistically tunnel vision on, both in your life and in the world.
greycel tails
 
is their a permanet version of filler
 
That was a good read.
How old are you now?

Can you elaborate on how the PEEK infraorbital implants were a waste of time?

To me, implants are a better long term solution than fillers simply due to ongoing cost.

Once you know good dimensions for your face with fillers, surely you can just get them dissolved once they're past their best and get some permanent implants.
I'm 24

The consultation was a waste of time because:
1. Infraorbital area is nowhere near as important as people here think unless you're some majorly deformed bug eyed subhuman. Alain Delon is the best looking man of all time and, by incel standards, he has a "bad" infraorbital area and dark circles. He has perfect cheekbones and jawline, which is what actually matters and can be achieved easily with filler. Note, I didn't even get infraorbital filler, however the cheekbone filler creates some tenting in the lateral area which definitely had some positive effect on my infraorbital.
2. If you're hot then dark circles are hot
3. Implants are just shit no matter the material. They're for people with genetic diseases or severe trauma. Fillers are superior in every way.
4. Implants are much more expensive, require operation, you might require psychological analysis before surgery, traumatic, long recovery time, can have complications, can have an unpredictable or poor outcome or outright failure all of which require another operation. List goes on.
5. The ongoing cost is not that much. Sell your car. Buy bitcoin now and sell it in two years. There you go, now you've got enough money to afford filler for the rest of your life and never be a sub8 again.
 
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I’ve got a chance to do a nose filler for cheap, I only need a very small change on my nose bridge I want to make it straight. They said the HA filler they use is Restylane, do you know it? Its worth it?

Also, never knew fillers lasted that long, I always heard doctors said it lasts 6-12 months max.
yes restylane is probably fine for nose
for me they lasted more than 12 months but I had a fuckload injected
 
you're overexaggerating by saying you went from 5/10 to 9+/10 you're probably just an htn now inflating your rating but good for you either way
 
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1617741298893
 
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you're overexaggerating by saying you went from 5/10 to 9+/10 you're probably just an htn now inflating your rating but good for you either way
lolno. was rated by dozens as 8-9 on lookism, unironic 10 on reddit. cope all you like.
 
Its like a fucking fairy tale myth your a fucking prince but ever year you have to go to a witch to keep your prince royalness
kek it really is
feels so weird too. normies have no idea.
 
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lolno. was rated by dozens as 8-9 on lookism, unironic 10 on reddit. cope all you like.
you'd have to be model tier to get those kinds of ratings, literally like sean opry tier.
 
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you'd have to be model tier to get those kinds of ratings, literally like sean opry tier.
I was. Not opry tier of course otherwise I wouldn't be here trying to moneymax.
 
should show pics though
 
Damn ! Finally a great post in this forum after soooo long ! You clearly explained the path for so many ! u got a discord dude? would love to know more from you!
 
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Damn ! Finally a great post in this forum after soooo long ! You clearly explained the path for so many ! u got a discord dude? would love to know more from you!
thanks. you can just dm me on here, prefer to use discord for other things
 
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I had very subtle fillers done for the first time, small amounts, this week. Like 0,3 under each eye and 0,5 in a convex in my jawline. It's quite addicting.. I was considering getting them in my cheekbones too, but I'm not sure if a buccal fat removal would be better... My ratios are good, but I've always been bothered by the fact that I need to drop to unhealthy levels of bodyfat to get my cheekbones to pop..
 
I had very subtle fillers done for the first time, small amounts, this week. Like 0,3 under each eye and 0,5 in a convex in my jawline. It's quite addicting.. I was considering getting them in my cheekbones too, but I'm not sure if a buccal fat removal would be better... My ratios are good, but I've always been bothered by the fact that I need to drop to unhealthy levels of bodyfat to get my cheekbones to pop..
Never get buccal fat removal. You will look like shit and age like a meth user.
You can absolutely get cheekbone filler. Ask your filler doctor if whether think you could benefit from it.
 
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No money for surgery or fillers, I beg $10.
 
Greycels carrying the forum once again
 
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