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ASKING A DOMINICAN 8 ABOUT HER WORLDVIEW WHILE ON A DATE WITH HER While visiting foreign countries is often fun, for many reasons, to meet local women. Apart from the ‘woman’ part of that experience sometimes just for entertainment like to ask questions to try to build a theory of mind about what people from the country are like, how they see and don’t see the world. This isn’t a very scientific approach but it sometimes throws up interesting perspectives - and when I say interesting perspectives here I don’t mean arcane 200IQ new vistas I mean mostly (from my perspective) bizarre incomplete patchwork weltanschauungs
Thomas Nagel wrote famous epistemology paper ‘What Is It Like To Be A Bat?’ Thesis is ‘basically’ that because of a perception gap you can’t really ever know on a phenomenological level what it is like to be a bat. Similarly when you try to find out what it is like to see the world as an average eg Cuban, Lebanese, Rwandan woman whatever (obviously epistemologically not autogynophilically) though like bats women also try to suck your blood there is slightly less of a perception gap since unlike bats generally they don’t use biosonar to echo-locate. And yet even in this smaller gap you still often pull up very strange priors!
To this, know not really a revelation to say people / women don’t know much but just as an example here was in the Dominican Republic on date with a Dominican woman who seemed otherwise relatively intelligent, very sweet you know, great thighs, had a bachelor in marketing and so on and was just talking…
Thing that first caught me was when I asked “have you ever left the island?”
“No I’ve never left the island”
Never having left the Dominican Republic doesn’t preclude you from being (sorry being a bit disparaging here but-) cosmopolitan. And to be fair most people in most countries are like this, like I say you know not really knowing anything about anything… maybe have not really left their home country. It’s normal. Such types are even prominent in media, policymaking, academia and so on…
She told me it seemed like I travelled a lot and wanted to play a game where she said a country and I guessed the capital city. Went a few rounds and I guessed them all. She was impressed. I said we should flip and I would ask her-
“Okay”
“Tehran”
“I don’t know. Austria?”
“What? No Iran”
“Oh I’ve never heard of it”
“Buenos Aires”
“Mmm… Brazil?”
“No not quite…”
“Oh, um… uh… Argentina”
“Cairo”
“Umm…”
“It’s a very famous country, I guarantee you will know it”
“Oooh you’re making me feel stupid”
“Pyramids, you know the Pyramids?”
“Umm… the pyramids? I don’t know”
“Don’t be stupid, come on. You know this you know the pyramids”
“Maybe”
“The Pharaohs, Mummies, Exodus. Egypt”
“Oh I think so, maybe. Cairo is the capital of Africa?”
“It’s the capital of Egypt I just said”
“Ah okay”
“Athens”
“I’ve never heard of it”
“You’ve never heard of Athens? What?”
[frowns] “Is it in Europe?”
“Ancient Greece you know Ancient Greece?”
“Heard of Greece”
“Do you know Athens then? Democracy, Parthenon, Socrates”
“Mmm… I don’t know, maybe”
“Not being rude but are you joking?”
“Oooh you’re making me feel stupid”
Wanted to see how far I could push this…
“Berlin. Surely you know Berlin”
“It’s also in Europe right?”
“Do you know the Nazis? Have you heard of the Nazis?”
“I think so”
“Do you know the war they were involved with? Do you know what they did?”
“I don’t know much about history”
“Have you heard of World War 2? Adolf Hitler?”
“I heard of World War 2 but I don’t know much about it”
“Do you know what Hitler did?”
“Not really. He was one of the leaders right?”
Was taken aback, very egregious case of not knowing things especially since she didn’t seem stupid. Eventually recovered though - she was attractive and there wasn’t much point sidetracking rest of the evening with it beyond that. Want to stress this part of the conversation I put on X was not the whole evening…
