At 20, is test a waste of time for facial/clavicle development?

[xboxac3]

19m, almost 20. I'm 5'8.5 and I think my height is a lost cause since plates r probably fused so I'm lowkey just gonna fraudmax to 5'11 and call it 6'0.

My bigger issue is facial development + my frame as well as size and power for sports. I have too much exposure between my brows and eyes; my lower jaw also isnt as developed as I like it to be; my clavicles also are too short and I'm too light in terms of lean weight for my age and sex.

I know im an old man but I lowkey need advice on this before I do it. Is this gonna do me much for my face and clavicles? What about my overall power? Anything I should know about?

Also, does anyone know if college postal services are typically gonna check my shit if I buy gear? I dont want these dudes to check my shit and then I get in trouble. My college's system is that your items received at the college post office and they put your stuff in a collection box you open with your ID. It should pass them since it passes postal services, right?

 

[TheSadAlbanian]

idk but ask grok tbh

 

[pucchiach]

19m, almost 20. I'm 5'8.5 and I think my height is a lost cause since plates r probably fused so I'm lowkey just gonna fraudmax to 5'11 and call it 6'0.

My bigger issue is facial development + my frame as well as size and power for sports. I have too much exposure between my brows and eyes; my lower jaw also isnt as developed as I like it to be; my clavicles also are too short and I'm too light in terms of lean weight for my age and sex.

I know im an old man but I lowkey need advice on this before I do it. Is this gonna do me much for my face and clavicles? What about my overall power? Anything I should know about?

Tons of threads on how to gymcel to increase your frame and neck aswell as the effect hormonal substances have on different ethnicities and ages.

Also, does anyone know if college postal services are typically gonna check my shit if I buy gear? I dont want these dudes to check my shit and then I get in trouble. My college's system is that your items received at the college post office and they put your stuff in a collection box you open with your ID. It should pass them since it passes postal services, right?

HOw would you not know this? If they dont open packages there would be no reason they would find out

 

[Proxy-]

if your really worried about your collage finding out you could always get a collection box off sight and go collect it yourself, then there's absolutely no chance of them catching wind.

I'm not educated on what test does to growing bone and frame obviously more of it means you'll get more masculine features, but with your growth plates your clavicles are one of the last things to close so they could still be open.

 

[xboxac3]

Yeah well to be clear they (college) probably wouldnt know, I just threw that in there in case somebody knew of a case where they did somehow find out, just in case

Clavicles, I do know theres evidence for them closing late, but my biggest concern is the face

 

[xboxac3]

idk but ask grok tbh

I lowkey tried it thinking it would be like claude in the sense that it completely discredits any looksmaxxing but to my surprise it did respond okay. I feel like it does still underplay looksmaxxing but thanks lowkey

 

[gencell.]

19m, almost 20. I'm 5'8.5 and I think my height is a lost cause since plates r probably fused so I'm lowkey just gonna fraudmax to 5'11 and call it 6'0.

My bigger issue is facial development + my frame as well as size and power for sports. I have too much exposure between my brows and eyes; my lower jaw also isnt as developed as I like it to be; my clavicles also are too short and I'm too light in terms of lean weight for my age and sex.

I know im an old man but I lowkey need advice on this before I do it. Is this gonna do me much for my face and clavicles? What about my overall power? Anything I should know about?

Also, does anyone know if college postal services are typically gonna check my shit if I buy gear? I dont want these dudes to check my shit and then I get in trouble. My college's system is that your items received at the college post office and they put your stuff in a collection box you open with your ID. It should pass them since it passes postal services, right?

probably not gonna do anything for bones at that age, your clavicles would still appear longer because of muscle growth on gear.

 

[Proxy-]

Yeah well to be clear they (college) probably wouldnt know, I just threw that in there in case somebody knew of a case where they did somehow find out, just in case

Clavicles, I do know theres evidence for them closing late, but my biggest concern is the face

i mean i know its not the most scientific approach but generally if you look at bodybuilders who are on test they may not look the most good looking they just look more manly cos obviously test is the male hormone so i think that it only works if you have a decent enough base. it in most cases just ages the user facially loads id say, could be science that proves me wrong though im just not aware of it

 

[xboxac3]

i mean i know its not the most scientific approach but generally if you look at bodybuilders who are on test they may not look the most good looking they just look more manly cos obviously test is the male hormone so i think that it only works if you have a decent enough base. it in most cases just ages the user facially loads id say, could be science that proves me wrong though im just not aware of it

HGH and IGF-1? I'm so desperate bruh. Honestly im even willing to scrap the face and settle for fraudmaxxing and beard but I just wanna lock in on the clavicles and the body's bonemass so I can be better at sports. Sorry if I come off as a bit clueless

 

[TheSadAlbanian]

I lowkey tried it thinking it would be like claude in the sense that it completely discredits any looksmaxxing but to my surprise it did respond okay. I feel like it does still underplay looksmaxxing but thanks lowkey

grok is easy to manipulate just tell you ur under medical supervision n shit like that

 

[Proxy-]

HGH and IGF-1? I'm so desperate bruh. Honestly im even willing to scrap the face and settle for fraudmaxxing and beard but I just wanna lock in on the clavicles and the body's bonemass so I can be better at sports. Sorry if I come off as a bit clueless

mate dw u dont sound cluless your litterely on a sight to learn about these kinds of things, hgh id say is a better shout than test because obviosley with test u have to be carfull to not botch yourself where your body gets so used to getting test externally that it stops making it naturally and you basically go cold turkey and end up with things like man boobs and other things, hgh to my knowledge dont quote me on this if you where to go cold turkey you would just drop down to your base hormone levels, don't quote me on that but im pretty sure thats the case, obviosley you gotta know what your doing to cycle it properly, igf1 I've heard good things about not to informed on it but id reasearch into igf1-rl3 witch is just a updated version witch is meant to be better.
good look though bro whatever you deside to do reaserch it more, and lmn what your progress is like would love to keep up to date with how your assentions going ill drop u a follow.