At what age do girls/women begin to look busted and/or give off motherly vibes?

[Callooh_Calais]

Seeing a lot of women from my sixth form days in my age range (25-29) who just look absolutely busted now, and it makes me kinda sad. I feel like I've only become more attractive (at least, the female attention has become much, much more frequent) and have been looksmaxing a long time with such things as raw milk, trentinoin, and fasting. As such I've been Norwood 1.5 since I was a teenager and have full collagen (i.e no wrinkles, bumps or ridges), I still look fresh and ready, and if anything, just look more masculine with age.

All the girls in my age range however...They feel like they could be hanging out at the Happy Hour drinking mimosas and just being hella boring compared to young females, who always have passion, beauty and joie de vivre on their side.

What happens to women after the age of 25 that just turns them so...'old'?

 

[CtrlAltDelete]

Over if you don't have a JB girlfriend giving you her tits to suck on after you undergo plastic surgery to look better for her (and your other side hoes)

 

[Deleted member 15129]

Their years of drinking, fucking, drugs, and other collagen-raping activities catch up to them. White whores look post-wall at around 26. Other ethnicities usually age a little slower, so maybe 30-40. With good aging genetics some women even last all the way till menopause. But it's just life tbh. Fat also depletes in the face as you get older so you get more sunken in face/less youthful look

 

[Deleted member 2403]

21+

 

[Callooh_Calais]

Their years of drinking, fucking, drugs, and other collagen-raping activities catch up to them. White whores look post-wall at around 26. Other ethnicities usually age a little slower, so maybe 30-40. With good aging genetics some women even last all the way till menopause. But it's just life tbh. Fat also depletes in the face as you get older so you get more sunken in face/less youthful look

True, in Asia I see a lot of beautiful women who are still attractive at +30--You can tell they're no longer spring chickens, but they're still not ugly to the eye.

But overall in the US, women become invisible to me after 25. I won't even consider dating one since I truly believe I need to establish a strong enough pairbond with a younger woman so that I grow to love her enough to care for her after she no longer gets me off with her mere physical charms.

I feel like nothing turns me off more than that elongated shield face that women develop as they get older. If her face isn't round, I'm just not attracted. Mandy Moore is a perfect archtypical example of what I'm talking about

When did herface become so damn ovalish and masculine?

 

[Callooh_Calais]

Seriously, are women completely oblivious to visual objectivity without some sort of underarching social queue? How could anyone possibly say that Mandy Moore "doesn't age" when her chin seems to grow by a cm every year (aging women get that ugly sharp chin I hate)

60 Photos That Prove Mandy Moore Just Simply Does NOT Age

It's like she's staring into our souls . . .

www.popsugar.com

 

[Kekee]

Where's the 16+ option? Looking at human history will give you the truth.

Babies get made as soon as women get their first period. Should tell you a lot about motherly vibes.

 

[Callooh_Calais]

Where's the 16+ option? Looking at human history will give you the truth.

Babies get made as soon as women get their first period. Should tell you a lot about motherly vibes.

Outside of the Middle East/Mediterranean, Eastern Europe and parts of the Americas, it was historically very unusual for men to marry women much younger than them, with 18-20 being a much more common age for marriage; Lady Murasaki for example was married at 20; King Henry VIII divorced Catherine of Aragorn (who he married at 18 when she was 23) to marry Anne Boleyn when she was between 23-25 (probably explains why he executed her soon after).

While it wasn't at all condemned for men to marry women much younger than them historically (so long as they were past the age of puberty), it wasn't necessarily common, though it did happen, esp. when French influence was much stronger in Europe: Many English monarchs of the House of married rather young Frenchwomen, with Richard II's marriage to 6-year old Isabella of Valois at the age of 29 caused quite a commotion (though he waited until she was in her teens to consummate the marriage).

I think if you think +16 is too old, you must be being facetious, or you're literally a paedophile.

 

[Kekee]

Outside of the Middle East/Mediterranean, Eastern Europe and parts of the Americas, it was historically very unusual for men to marry women much younger than them, with 18-20 being a much more common age for marriage; Lady Murasaki for example was married at 20; King Henry VIII divorced Catherine of Aragorn (who he married at 18 when she was 23) to marry Anne Boleyn when she was between 23-25 (probably explains why he executed her soon after).

While it wasn't at all condemned for men to marry women much younger than them historically (so long as they were past the age of puberty), it wasn't necessarily common, though it did happen, esp. when French influence was much stronger in Europe: Many English monarchs of the House of married rather young Frenchwomen, with Richard II's marriage to 6-year old Isabella of Valois at the age of 29 caused quite a commotion (though he waited until she was in her teens to consummate the marriage).

I think if you think +16 is too old, you must be being facetious, or you're literally a paedophile.

Essentially cultural differences. Nothing more. No right or wrong time and way to marry. Should be individual choice.

As for me, I follow the ways of Ancient Greek Nobles, who mog all.

There were usually no established age limits for marriage, although, with the exception of political marriages, waiting until childbearing age was considered proper decorum. Many women were married by the age of 14 or 16, while men commonly married around the age of 30.

Mogged.

 

[Callooh_Calais]

Essentially cultural differences. Nothing more. No right or wrong time and way to marry.

To marry, not to consummate the marriage! People hate paedophiles as much then just as much as they do now, I can assure you, so let's not try to stretch the goal-posts to suit your agenda by any means

As for me, I follow the ways of Ancient Greek Nobles, who mog all.


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Mogged.

The Hellenic deities had blue eyes, i.e, were White

 

[Reckless Turtle]

Women start giving off motherly vibes as early as puberty. By sexual maturation (15-16), those vibes are on full force.

Some women manage to not look "busted" all the way up to menopause. "Busted" is a such a subjective term though.

 

[Kekee]

To marry, not to consummate the marriage! People hate paedophiles as much then just as much as they do now, I can assure you, so let's not try to stretch the goal-posts to suit your agenda by any means

Not sure why you keep mentioning pedos when we're talking about Prime age females who can reproduce and produce milk. But whatever.

You've shown no proof of your claims btw.

Girls reached puberty at ages twelve or thirteen, at which point they were considered adults and could marry. Girls took their childhood toys and left them at the temple of Artemis. This signaled that their childhood was over and that they were becoming adults. After marrying, the women were expected to have a baby. Not being able to bear children was seen as curse from the gods.

Yes I'm sure they waited years after marriage to consummate. JFL.

Over for you. The mog is too much.

 

[Callooh_Calais]

Not sure why you keep mentioning pedos when we're talking about Prime age females who can reproduce and produce milk. But whatever.

You've shown no proof of your claims btw.

What six year old can 'produce milk' you weird fuck?

Yes I'm sure they waited years after marriage to consummate. JFL.

There's no reason to think that they didn't, especially considering how medieval morality was.

 

[Kekee]

What six year old can 'produce milk' you weird fuck?

JFL when did I mention any age even close to 6? Just lol, don't put words in my mouth. I'm talking about Females who are ready to reproduce, not children. Read the quote correctly.

Girls reached puberty at ages twelve or thirteen, at which point they were considered adults and could marry. Girls took their childhood toys and left them at the temple of Artemis. This signaled that their childhood was over and that they were becoming adults. After marrying, the women were expected to have a baby. Not being able to bear children was seen as curse from the gods.

Puberty, adulthood, 12-13 years. Obviously 6 year olds cannot have babies and produce milk, so they should not be having sex. However time of marriage(not consummate) is again, cultural opinion based.

There's no reason to think that they didn't, especially considering how medieval morality was.

There's no reason to think that they did. Your point is null.

 

[Deleted member 275]

women start to look 'aged' at 25+ tbh. Some a bit later, some a bit earlier.

I much prefer the non-mature 14-20yo look though. Girls between 21-25 already look different.

 

[Deleted member 4430]

Girls between 21-25 already look different.

its call aging...

 

[TITUS]

its call aging...

I call it withering.

 

[lutte]

18

 

[AlexAP]

There were usually no established age limits for marriage, although, with the exception of political marriages, waiting until childbearing age was considered proper decorum. Many women were married by the age of 14 or 16, while men commonly married around the age of 30.

The ages in which men and women married can't be that different, otherwise men had to remain celibate for many years.

Also, the best age to have kids for men is young too. A 17 year-old high school jock impregnating a 15 year-old girl is what nature wanted.

 

[Kekee]

The ages in which men and women married can't be that different, otherwise men had to remain celibate for many years.

That's what whores were for.

Also, the best age to have kids for men is young too. A 17 year-old high school jock impregnating a 15 year-old girl is what nature wanted.

Ideally yes. But we don't live in an ideal society that allows nature to run it's course. Otherwise we would all have kids already and not worry about money/wageslave.

 

[Deleted member 11770]

Lol at the copers in here. Most women above 25 look good, it's only around mid 30s when they start looking wrinkly and less attractive

 

[Xangsane]

I'd say 30s generally but I voted 25+ since many women particularly white women descend hard
Still not as much as post 30

 

[Callooh_Calais]

Also, the best age to have kids for men is young too. A 17 year-old high school jock impregnating a 15 year-old girl is what nature wanted.

Not necessarily: Middle-aged men running off with much younger women is common enough that tired old bags write articles like this to shame biological female dating preference. The theory is that older men who have survived long enough are attractive to younger women because they haven't died yet, so they must have much better genes than all the younger men who perished before them; ergo, Zoologist Stephan Proulx's theory that women become more attracted to men as they age much the same way silverback gorillas (which are often the oldest in the group) get preference in mating choice.

TL;DR: A young man's genes are unproven and untested (and have no latent indicators of fertility the way women do), whereas an older man's are proven. Thus, women have a preference for older men, and while they usually prefer someone slightly older than them for relationships, for sexual encounters, they tend to err much, much higher.

 

[Kakarotto]

7 IG

 

[damnit]

Seeing many girls they loose facial fat in their late 20ties , facial fat is important for girls to look young.

 

[Cope_detector]

True, in Asia I see a lot of beautiful women who are still attractive at +30--You can tell they're no longer spring chickens, but they're still not ugly to the eye.

But overall in the US, women become invisible to me after 25. I won't even consider dating one since I truly believe I need to establish a strong enough pairbond with a younger woman so that I grow to love her enough to care for her after she no longer gets me off with her mere physical charms.

I feel like nothing turns me off more than that elongated shield face that women develop as they get older. If her face isn't round, I'm just not attracted. Mandy Moore is a perfect archtypical example of what I'm talking about

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When did herface become so damn ovalish and masculine?

omg mandy moore when she was young is totally my type of woman. But yeah nowadays she looks like shit ngl

 

[Cope_detector]

Not necessarily: Middle-aged men running off with much younger women is common enough that tired old bags write articles like this to shame biological female dating preference. The theory is that older men who have survived long enough are attractive to younger women because they haven't died yet, so they must have much better genes than all the younger men who perished before them; ergo, Zoologist Stephan Proulx's theory that women become more attracted to men as they age much the same way silverback gorillas (which are often the oldest in the group) get preference in mating choice.

TL;DR: A young man's genes are unproven and untested (and have no latent indicators of fertility the way women do), whereas an older man's are proven. Thus, women have a preference for older men, and while they usually prefer someone slightly older than them for relationships, for sexual encounters, they tend to err much, much higher.

interesting

 

[Deleted member 15595]

I think if you think +16 is too old, you must be being facetious, or you're literally a paedophile.

16 is too old for a relationship, at that age she is most likely not a virgin.

 

[Callooh_Calais]

omg mandy moore when she was young is totally my type of woman. But yeah nowadays she looks like shit ngl

Truly: What the fuck happened to her? She gained like 2kg of chin in the last 10 years enough to mog Zach Efron, how is that even possible

 

[Deleted member 24348]

Seeing a lot of women from my sixth form days in my age range (25-29) who just look absolutely busted now, and it makes me kinda sad. I feel like I've only become more attractive (at least, the female attention has become much, much more frequent) and have been looksmaxing a long time with such things as raw milk, trentinoin, and fasting. As such I've been Norwood 1.5 since I was a teenager and have full collagen (i.e no wrinkles, bumps or ridges), I still look fresh and ready, and if anything, just look more masculine with age.

All the girls in my age range however...They feel like they could be hanging out at the Happy Hour drinking mimosas and just being hella boring compared to young females, who always have passion, beauty and joie de vivre on their side.

What happens to women after the age of 25 that just turns them so...'old'?

thier prime is 18-24. Lots of hormonal changes undergo after that. Progesterone, thyroid, estrogen fall off a cliff and they lose their "GLOW". Glow/youth is much more important in women than men. Your comparing these women to 18-23yos so of course they look very washed.

The smart ones find their cucks 23-24. The dumb ones wait to late 20s have to settle hard and are hags in the suburbs with high divorce rates.

A few can keep it together 25-27, but by 28 not many will make it. 30 JFL should have kids.

Theres nothing more pathetic than 30+ single women, though 26-29 is a close second.